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July 28, 2014, 09:23:41 PM
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but bitcoin has no country. so bitcoin is not based in new york, those new york rules dont apply to navada

That's all true, unless you provide a service to NY resident. Quote from Lawsky's proposal:

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(n) Virtual Currency Business Activity means the conduct of any one of the following types of activities involving New York or a New York Resident:
(1) receiving Virtual Currency for transmission or transmitting the same;
(2) securing, storing, holding, or maintaining custody or control of Virtual Currency on behalf of others;
(3) buying and selling Virtual Currency as a customer business;
(4) performing retail conversion services, including the conversion or exchange of Fiat Currency or other value into Virtual Currency, the conversion or exchange of Virtual Currency into Fiat Currency or other value, or the conversion or exchange of one form of Virtual Currency into another form of Virtual Currency; or
(5) controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency.

Whenever in the world you are, if you provide "virtual currency business activity" to NY resident, you're breaching NY state law. I've no idea what are the inter-state law agreements, you'll probably be safe in Nevada, as long as you're in compliance with their state law, but you may be up for an unpleasant surprise if you ever visit NY.

All the current pools/exchanges are young businesses, so likely many of them will be freaking out if there's even a sightliest risk that they may be facing court battle against NY state.

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July 28, 2014, 09:38:46 PM
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but bitcoin has no country. so bitcoin is not based in new york, those new york rules dont apply to navada

That's all true, unless you provide a service to NY resident. Quote from Lawsky's proposal:

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(n) Virtual Currency Business Activity means the conduct of any one of the following types of activities involving New York or a New York Resident:
(1) receiving Virtual Currency for transmission or transmitting the same;
(2) securing, storing, holding, or maintaining custody or control of Virtual Currency on behalf of others;
(3) buying and selling Virtual Currency as a customer business;
(4) performing retail conversion services, including the conversion or exchange of Fiat Currency or other value into Virtual Currency, the conversion or exchange of Virtual Currency into Fiat Currency or other value, or the conversion or exchange of one form of Virtual Currency into another form of Virtual Currency; or
(5) controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency.

Whenever in the world you are, if you provide "virtual currency business activity" to NY resident, you're breaching NY state law. I've no idea what are the inter-state law agreements, you'll probably be safe in Nevada, as long as you're in compliance with their state law, but you may be up for an unpleasant surprise if you ever visit NY.

All the current pools/exchanges are young businesses, so likely many of them will be freaking out if there's even a sightliest risk that they may be facing court battle against NY state.


so if thatbit of legislation gets passed. if one single miner living in NY with a USB miner making only dust amounts a week. was to join a pool anywhere in the world.. that pool anywhere in the world would have to buy a bitlicence.

WTF!!!

i bet lawsky will buy 20 usb miners and put one miner per pool then he will put the dust he collect into all the web wallets and exchanges that exist and then use that as "evidence" to force bitcoin services to buy licences or be fined. because he as a NY resident is using those services.

WTFFFF!!!

i only glanced over it as i thought it was limied to new york registered businesses but...

WTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

the word residents needs to be removed from that draft straight away

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July 28, 2014, 10:35:29 PM
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Yep a major mining pool out of Vegas put up notice in 45 days they may close due to new NY State reg's

That's just FUD and they know it.

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