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July 28, 2014, 10:12:35 AM
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?
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July 28, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!
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July 28, 2014, 12:09:44 PM
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.
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July 29, 2014, 09:18:37 AM
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.
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July 29, 2014, 10:47:28 AM
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.
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July 29, 2014, 11:16:24 AM
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?
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July 29, 2014, 11:21:31 AM
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If the congress can't impeach Nixon, Clinton and Bush, I can't see how they can impeach Obama.
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July 29, 2014, 11:27:23 AM
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To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?

If they don't admit to mistakes, this doesn't in the least mean that they don't make them! Wink

So, when shrinking from admitting mistakes, they choose the lesser of the two evils, hoping that their mistakes will either go off unnoticed or get buried under the piles of demagoguery and the torrents of lies.
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July 29, 2014, 11:31:49 AM
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To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?

If they don't admit to mistakes, this doesn't in the least mean that they don't make them! Wink

So, when shrinking from admitting mistakes, they choose the lesser of the two evils, hoping that their mistakes will either go off unnoticed or get buried under the piles of demagoguery and the torrents of lies.

Like I said if that's the kind of people leading this country and other countries it's probably about time that we launch the nukes and cancel ourselves off the Earth - we can only go downward from here.
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July 29, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
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This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?

If they don't admit to mistakes, this doesn't in the least mean that they don't make them! Wink

So, when shrinking from admitting mistakes, they choose the lesser of the two evils, hoping that their mistakes will either go off unnoticed or get buried under the piles of demagoguery and the torrents of lies.

Like I said if that's the kind of people leading this country and other countries it's probably about time that we launch the nukes and cancel ourselves off the Earth - we can only go downward from here.

Their (governments') power is not absolute, if they make too many mistakes, or too serious ones, they will eventually lose the power they presently hold. So, nolence volence, they have to take notice of reality beside them and look who is behind them.
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July 29, 2014, 07:51:01 PM
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Update: House Speaker Boehner rules out impeachment: ‘Scam started by Democrats’

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Talk of impeachment was cooked up by a White House desperate for something to rally Democrats ahead of November’s elections, House Speaker John A. Boehner said Tuesday, flatly ruling out any action on the controversial suggestion.

“We have no plans to impeach the president. We have no future plans,” Mr. Beohner said. “Listen, it’s all a scam started by Democrats at the White House.”

Democrats have acknowledged impeachment talk has been good for their fundraising, but also say there’s some fire behind all the smoke. On Tuesday, congressional Democrats circulated a list of GOP candidates and sitting lawmakers who have said they want to see President Obama be impeached.

Some conservative commenters have said impeachment is the right step, given the way Mr. Obama has chosen to enforce or not enforce laws written by Congress.

But Republican leaders have tried to squelch the talk, saying they are focused on pursuing their lawsuit against Mr. Obama for overreaching his powers, and want to pass legislation on boosting job creation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/29/boehner-rules-out-impeachment/

The thesis is either correct or Boehner folded like a lawn chair on this.
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