Re: Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest

[dooglus]

 Well douglus with all due respect to you and I do respect you but I don't think removing trust is that big of an issue , I mean if he fixes the issue that trust was put , it can might as well be removed if that thing is fixed.

 For example I have a loan that I am failing to pay right now , I have talked with the person and we are trying to fix the issue , if I can repay his loan than he will remove the negative trust , he is not going to keep the negative trust and put a positive trust to balance it stating 'nevermind the last negative trust he just paid' , that would be just silly.

 Don't get me wrong doog you are a wonderful person and all , I just disagree with you on this one. Things might not be undone but things can get fixed.

I think that's a different case. You always intended to repay the loan but circumstances changed.

He ran a scam where he claimed to be able to guarantee to make you a profit on dice sites by gambling with your coins. That's obviously nonsense, because if you have a guaranteed way of winning at dice you do it with your own coins, not somebody else's. He also said it was risk free because even if he did lose, he had coins in reserve to pay you back with. Well, he did lose, but didn't have enough coins in reserve to pay people back. When people pointed out these obvious flaws in his scheme he deleted their comments. It was clearly a scam from the start.

So now if he pays a few people back, am I meant to remove the negative trust as if he never set out to scam people? I don't think so.

[Professor James Moriarty]

 What if he pays everyone back? even with interest?

 Better yet , I offered to buy his account , which would mean that at the time the owner of that account (which would be me ) had never scammed anyone about it and never pmed you constantly . As long as you can make sure that I was actually in control of the account and not the scammer , you should be able to feel comfortable paying him back.

 Actually my negative trust and his are very similar indeed , he took out loans to gamble with them , I did the same thing Only difference I guarenteed a return on the 'loan' whereas he guarenteed return on his gambling schemes. I trusted other incomes to cover my loan and failed , he trusted his reserve if he had any to return. Very similar stuff , my only difference is I am in good terms with my loaner, I actually use his signature campaign even tough I have my own website that I would love to advertise I am repaying him small by small , if it 0.3 was 22$ like when I took the loan , I would be completely paid and even with hiiiiigh interest , but 0.3 is now 150$:D

 So long story short , there are no exceptions of removing a trust , things can not be undone but can be fixed , even horrible people realize what they do and straightened before , so I am not saying it will happen I personally even don't believe it but for another example , a person might do this , than realize his fault and pay everyone back and act better from now on apologizing about what he did before and than he must have the privilige to get his negative trust removed.

 We do not have to agree on this , there are different opinions in life about pretty much everything , i guess this is going to be one of them for us

 I would like to end this wall of text by stating , I still respect you immensely.

[dooglus]

And again I'm not here to scam I'm here to be apart of the forum legitimately. Dooglus and no Tomatocage on the bandwagon just love to abuse their powers.

I'm not abusing anything. I saw you running a scam, so I left feedback saying that you were running a scam.

You sent me threatening PMs, so I left feedback saying that you use threats to try to get negative feedback removed.

Etc.