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October 12, 2014, 06:49:46 PM
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Hello,

I'm wanting to introduce a new coin and pre-mine a large portion of it. The pre-mine will be used to give out, through an app that I'm working on. users will essentially be socially mining for the coin. As they complete tasks and they are verified, I will send the coins to the users. I believe this will expose cryptocurrency to an entirely new subset of people.

I'd like to begin addressing an concerns that people may have about this type of structure. I know, from research, that there is a lot of sketchy things that go on with pump and dumps, etc.

What scares you when a new coin is released?
How do I gain the communities trust with plans of a large pre-mine?

Thanks for any and all comments or concerns.
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October 12, 2014, 07:18:39 PM
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I can have the wallet that I have the coins in be somewhat public. You can view the number of coins that are in the wallet. I'm building an algorithm for the app that will hand out the coins to users of the app.

Would that help with some concerns?
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October 12, 2014, 07:22:05 PM
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Can you put a time frame to this at all?

And it's only at the end of fall, that we discover it was naught but the wind that knew when one particular leaf was to fall from one particular tree, only to land in one distinct spot .. to be left for an eternity, and waste its time in a wait sublime. C0A2A1C4
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October 12, 2014, 07:39:29 PM
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I want to have everything app/coin in three months. I just wanted to check here and see if there are any considerations I need to be thinking through now.
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October 12, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
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I want to have everything app/coin in three months. I just wanted to check here and see if there are any considerations I need to be thinking through now.

The time frame was the root of my consideration. The knowledge of your time frame gives me a scope in which I can consider that what scares me now will likely be about the same in three months, as opposed to 9-12 months from now. In this situation, I can use current fears about large premines to discuss your situation.

Take ripple for example, the marketcap is massive and they had a sizeable part of the premine that was intended to be controlled internally by ripple labs. their inital distribution method using world community grid has changed, but while it was in use it was a fantastic idea. Of course it has logical flaws, but for what it was in January I'll admit that I'm still impressed 10 months later.

As far as your social app, I could imagine a GPS oriented app like check coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=715563.msg8082311#msg8082311), or a game oriented app like gameleague coin. I don't think their distributions are algorithm-oriented though, didn't read that far into it. Maybe you've got a much greater idea, I don't know though. I'd almost pay money to see an integration with something like Ingress.

As far as the pre-mine goes - the only thing it can ever really effect is adoption and penetration into society. If you cann't come up with a way to solve the byzantine generals problem cryptographically, then the continued existence of coins I've mentioned above is a fallacy. They still exist though. Regardless of anyone's opinion on that matter, these coins are still technically interesting if nothing else. So, if your aim is to be technically interesting then you could probably nail that without a problem.

I think the community's been hammered over and over again so many times now that many are almost trained not to get in with pnd's (of course there's always the few that continue to ride the train regardless of the outcome), so even if yours goes that route, and I'm not saying it will or won't, I don't think you should let it influence your opinion.

I guess the most important thing to do is not rush whatever it is you're working on. that's what's gonna scare people off, because they'll pick it up immediately and run away. Not trying to offend here, but three months to do what it sounds like you're trying to do is not a very long time .. unless you're doing this as some kind of full-time double-shift kinda thing.

Communities gain trust in a million different ways. Basically, if you do what you say you're going to do, you're not gonna get the trust of everybody .. but you're gonna get the trust of the people who were interested when you said you were going to do whatever it was you're going to do. That's pretty much it.

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October 12, 2014, 08:10:38 PM
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Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

I'll update the folks here when it gets closer to launch. You answered several of my questions. I'm an inherently trusting person. I operate by trusting people until they prove otherwise...within reason. I also understand the mantra, "you have to gain one's trust."

Both are understandable ways to operate. This project is important to me and I don't want a community that I need the support of to question my motives right out of the gate. I guess that is something I'll address when it comes up.

Thanks!
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October 13, 2014, 05:01:57 AM
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2 questions spring to mind.

How do you make sure that the "mining" tasks are done by humans and not bots?

Once people have the coins, what are they going to do with them.

“God does not play dice"
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October 13, 2014, 12:34:55 PM
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A lot of people don't like premined coins for obvious reasons. But once you are about to release the coins, you can ask for opinions from people in the thread, and they can suggest thr amount of premine they would be comfortable with.
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October 13, 2014, 01:52:59 PM
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In most instances, people are probably uncomfortable with any sort of large premine.

For this app, I have to execute a large premine because those coins will be used to support and grow the other community, through the app.

As the popularity of the app grows, it will help to support the crypto community. I won't keep any of the coins for myself. The value that I get is in getting a large user base for the app.

1. How do you make sure that the "mining" tasks are done by humans and not bots?

2. Once people have the coins, what are they going to do with them.


1. There is a verification system built into the app and then once coins begin circulating in the community users begin to handle the verification system themselves.
2. They can trade them on an exchange. However, it is set up for them to continue to facilitate action within the app.
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