WTB a TREZOR Metallic

[HabBear]

I know, I know...they're hard to find. But if someone wants to unload theirs, contact me and let's talk about what price might be fair.

Thanks.

[scox]

I've purchased 5 First editions during their startup. Two metallic and 3 plastic.
I can tell you without the faintest doubt that the plastic one is the only viable option.

It does explain why they stopped producing metal covers...

I would like to start by stating one of the two metal trezors of mine has broken after a 0.5m fall.
The metal is a light aluminum which isn't that pleasant to the touch, and the buttons (as I've heard) have often functional flaws.

I would suggest you to stick with the solid plastic, it's sturdy (much more than metal), weighs more or less the same, and is over all less flawed of a hardware.

Just dropping this comment here, I'm unsure whether I want to sell the only other "First (first) edition"  - of the absolutely first ever batch produced trezor I have left. Given its memorabilia rather than a functional trezor.

[HabBear]

Interesting, thanks for your honest response here. You could have easily offered to sell me your busted one.

I haven't heard any complaints about the metallic version, but honestly I haven't seen much talk about them at all. It's fitting that the version that looks so good has such fundamental flaws...that's life, eh?

Ok, I'll look into the plastic version.

Have you hand any experience with the metal private key holder?

Thanks.

[BurtW]

I have one. 

Mine is special because it was seized by Homeland Security and it took me 9 months and almost $250,000 in legal fees and donations to the federal civil asset forfeiture fund to get it back.  Would that make it more or less valuable???

As far as I know it has never been dropped, unless the homeland security or customs agents that handled it dropped it.  When I got it back I wiped it and started over - just in case.  It still works.  No problems with the buttons. 

It really has a lot of sentimental value to me since we have been through so much together so I cannot see parting with it at this time.

BTW when I got my stuff back I saw that homeland security keeps the Bitcoins they seize in their various "funding raids" on their own Trezor.  It was a plastic first edition that they seized from someone else before they arrested me.

[HabBear]

Wow, honored to have you comment on this! Your version would make it more valuable, but as you said "[you've] been through so much together."

Fucking Feds, of course they'd keep their seized coins on a stolen/confiscated Trezor. Were your coins part of the stash that where stolen by Feds (from the Feds)?

If you happen to come across a metallic, I'm still interested.

Btw, are you in Colorado?

I have one. 

Mine is special because it was seized by Homeland Security and it took me 9 months and almost $250,000 in legal fees and donations to the federal civil asset forfeiture fund to get it back.  Would that make it more or less valuable???

As far as I know it has never been dropped, unless the homeland security or customs agents that handled it dropped it.  When I got it back I wiped it and started over - just in case.  It still works.  No problems with the buttons. 

It really has a lot of sentimental value to me since we have been through so much together so I cannot see parting with it at this time.

BTW when I got my stuff back I saw that homeland security keeps the Bitcoins they seize in their various "funding raids" on their own Trezor.  It was a plastic first edition that they seized from someone else before they arrested me.

[BurtW]

Wow, honored to have you comment on this! Your version would make it more valuable, but as you said "[you've] been through so much together."

Fucking Feds, of course they'd keep their seized coins on a stolen/confiscated Trezor. Were your coins part of the stash that where stolen by Feds (from the Feds)?

If you happen to come across a metallic, I'm still interested.

Btw, are you in Colorado?

The Bitcoins I forfeited were combined with a boatload of coins from the Silk Road seizure into a 2,719.32669068 BTC lot and auctioned off by the US Marshals service (you can read about it here).  I had nothing to do with Silk Road they just combined the BTC they took from me with the BTC they got in that case.  The agents that got caught by their masters with their hand in the cookie jar was not my case - that was related to the Silk Road case.

Yes, I am in Colorado.  Speaking tomorrow night.

[digicoinuser]

Interesting, I didn't hear about the issues with the metal Trezors until reading this thread.

[HabBear]

Hi Burt, I've read about your story and that of Ross Ulbrecht. In fact, I just watched Deep Web again recently. It's f*cking tragic (or typical) how brazen the Feds are when they believe someone is a committing a crime. Of course that didn't stop them from their own novelty and greed once they had proximity to what others were engaged in. The only difference is what you and Ross were engaged in didn't steal from anybody...the Feds did.

I recognize that your case and the Silkroad case were very different charges, scenarios, and lines by which any government official could think "wrongdoing".

You were speaking tonight just a few miles from me. It would have been easy for me to stop by but I didn't see your post until late tonight and I probably wouldn't have fared well with the Tea Party crowd. I'm more at home with a more Independent crowd. I don't see any other future dates on your website, but I have it bookmarked and will check back so I can catch one of your speaking events.

Great to know I'll have the opportunity!

Wow, honored to have you comment on this! Your version would make it more valuable, but as you said "[you've] been through so much together."

Fucking Feds, of course they'd keep their seized coins on a stolen/confiscated Trezor. Were your coins part of the stash that where stolen by Feds (from the Feds)?

If you happen to come across a metallic, I'm still interested.

Btw, are you in Colorado?

The Bitcoins I forfeited were combined with a boatload of coins from the Silk Road seizure into a 2,719.32669068 BTC lot and auctioned off by the US Marshals service (you can read about it here).  I had nothing to do with Silk Road they just combined the BTC they took from me with the BTC they got in that case.  The agents that got caught by their masters with their hand in the cookie jar was not my case - that was related to the Silk Road case.

Yes, I am in Colorado.  Speaking tomorrow night.

[BurtW]

I will speak to any organization.  This issues crosses all political lines.  In fact almost everyone, except law enforcement, is against civil asset forfeiture.

This next one might be more your crowd:

Liberty on the Rocks Denver
Wednesday, May 3, 2017
7:00 p.m. (Happy Hour at 6 p.m.)
Choppers Bar and Grill
80 S. Madison St., Denver CO
LOTR Denver

[HabBear]

That's ironic, given that law enforcement is supposed to be the instrument of the policy dictated and written by The People.

Choppers could work, I'll try to make it and bring a family member who would appreciate (in a compassionate sympathy way) your story and how the Feds handled your case - the accusation and the "resolution". The fact that retribution for false accusations is possible in theory only is infuriating. The higher authority granted law enforcement should require greater responsibility to own decision making. 

I will speak to any organization.  This issues crosses all political lines.  In fact almost everyone, except law enforcement, is against civil asset forfeiture.

This next one might be more your crowd:

Liberty on the Rocks Denver
Wednesday, May 3, 2017
7:00 p.m. (Happy Hour at 6 p.m.)
Choppers Bar and Grill
80 S. Madison St., Denver CO
LOTR Denver

[robao]

Interesting, thanks for your honest response here. You could have easily offered to sell me your busted one.

I haven't heard any complaints about the metallic version, but honestly I haven't seen much talk about them at all. It's fitting that the version that looks so good has such fundamental flaws...that's life, eh?

Ok, I'll look into the plastic version.

Have you hand any experience with the metal private key holder?

Thanks.

I agree with scox's valuation.
To my knowledge metal trezors stopped being produced due to the various malfunctions this material caused.
The metal key holder isn't really much of a substitute. All it is is a little box to collect the first 4 letters of the 24 (i believe) word mnemonic in order to retrieve your funds in case you lose your trezor.
They are easily identified as crypto-related and in case you lose it or someone finds it, puf all your bits are gone. Yeah it's stainless, waterproof etc, but so is a piece of paper.
Laminate it if you want. In case someone found it all it would seem is a couple random words or (if you smarten up using only the first 4 letters each word) just plain out jibberish.
Put it in a box and bury it somewhere, idk what exactly you're looking for in this aspect.

[HabBear]

Interesting, thanks for your honest response here. You could have easily offered to sell me your busted one.

I haven't heard any complaints about the metallic version, but honestly I haven't seen much talk about them at all. It's fitting that the version that looks so good has such fundamental flaws...that's life, eh?

Ok, I'll look into the plastic version.

Have you hand any experience with the metal private key holder?

Thanks.

To my knowledge metal trezors stopped being produced due to the various malfunctions this material caused.

They are easily identified as crypto-related and in case you lose it or someone finds it, put all your bits are gone. Yeah it's stainless, waterproof etc, but so is a piece of paper.

Paper dissolves in water and is stained by almost anything. If paper were a safe option Trezor wouldn't exist.

[Iranus]

Interesting, thanks for your honest response here. You could have easily offered to sell me your busted one.

I haven't heard any complaints about the metallic version, but honestly I haven't seen much talk about them at all. It's fitting that the version that looks so good has such fundamental flaws...that's life, eh?

Ok, I'll look into the plastic version.

Have you hand any experience with the metal private key holder?

Thanks.

To my knowledge metal trezors stopped being produced due to the various malfunctions this material caused.

They are easily identified as crypto-related and in case you lose it or someone finds it, put all your bits are gone. Yeah it's stainless, waterproof etc, but so is a piece of paper.

Paper dissolves in water and is stained by almost anything. If paper were a safe option Trezor wouldn't exist.

Paper wallets are probably better than TREZOR for ultra long-term HODLing, even though TREZOR is about as safe as you can get holding it digitally.

If you laminate it and store it somewhere safe (say I buried it in my garden inside a safe, for example) it basically couldn't get any safer than that since it's immune to cyber attacks.  You could even have a second paper wallet stored in a different place and then you'd be safe against a 5-dollar-wrench attack (just tell them where that one was containing only a small amount of Bitcoin).

TREZORs are very secure but their main purpose isn't to be safer than a paper wallet, it's to be better for everyday transactions than a paper wallet while still being secure.