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October 03, 2014, 07:23:03 AM
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No, it is not possible to transform heat into other forms of energy. Unless you need heat right away (to stay warm) any heat energy is essentially wasted

Tell me, if not by transforming heat, then how is electricity generated?

You obviously don't live in Iceland, where 25% of the power is geothermal. Try this for starters: Geothermal electricity

Nearly all electricity is generated by heat.
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October 03, 2014, 07:25:17 AM
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In the long run Bitcoin mining always moves toward zero profitability. In the state of dynamic equilibrium, the cost of mining would be more or less equal to the value of the mined coins (block reward and fees). Hence there is an upper limit to how much electricity mining will consume. As the block reward halves, the power usage also halves over the long term (assuming a steady price). As the value of BTC increases, the power usage will also increase. This upper limit is independent of the number of users or the number of transactions per second, at least while fees are a small fraction of the block reward.

Exactly,  Very well written.
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October 03, 2014, 07:36:57 AM
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how to change ?no one can give a goo method.

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October 03, 2014, 08:14:18 AM
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Nearly all electricity is generated by heat.

Are you suggesting that miners install boilers and turbines in their facilities?
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October 03, 2014, 08:16:55 AM
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The same people who will attack Bitcoin because they are environmentalists are the same people that will attack Bitcoin because they are Keynesians.

Solution. Let them both cling on to their hokey religions and we move forward to a better future. No need to destroy Bitcoin to appease stupid people. Let them use Doge.

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October 03, 2014, 08:19:01 AM
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In the long run Bitcoin mining always moves toward zero profitability. In the state of dynamic equilibrium, the cost of mining would be more or less equal to the value of the mined coins (block reward and fees). Hence there is an upper limit to how much electricity mining will consume. As the block reward halves, the power usage also halves over the long term (assuming a steady price). As the value of BTC increases, the power usage will also increase. This upper limit is independent of the number of users or the number of transactions per second, at least while fees are a small fraction of the block reward.

Some excellent points there - thank you for your input.

This is actually very interesting, because it means you can calculate the current zero profit price of BTC, which might be a nice indicator for traders. Assuming of course, that mining cost is the only force governing the value.
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October 03, 2014, 08:23:27 AM
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Why people always talk about Bitcoin needs to change? Why can't they say that people needs to adopt with what Bitcoin is trying to do!!!!!!

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October 03, 2014, 08:29:18 AM
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Why people always talk about Bitcoin needs to change? Why can't they say that people needs to adopt with what Bitcoin is trying to do!!!!!!

It's not people. Just monsterer.

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