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ashiyane (OP)
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October 03, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
Last edit: October 03, 2014, 01:57:42 PM by ashiyane
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EDIT:  Found another complaint related to the same scammer although this time Paypal 2 Btc:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781949.20


Scammer info:

Skype id: thagft
Skrill Account: Brandfratz@gmail.com
Claimed nationality: German
Claimed localbitcoins.com Account: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/adriano1212/
Bitcointalk.org username: Penner
Member url: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366620
Amount scammed: 20$

This scammer is thankfully stupid enough, as i did a transaction with this shit-lazy-head since 21 days.
& it went good, we've agreed on Skype to trade 20.00 USD with 0.0536 Bitcoin, 1:1.

i tested him with 1$ first and he agreed to trade. so i received 1$ worth of BTC, then i sent 19$ via skrill and he sent 19$ worth of btc.
Which looks good for now, not to mention he showed needy status by requesting to send more $ in exchange for btc, he even made
a deal of selling 250$ BTC for 200$ skrill for some pharmacy item that he should get urgently.

20 days later, i requested another 60$ worth of BTC, he agreed. I've proceeded and sent 20$ first as i was going to do it
per 3 stages. and he refused to send BTC nor refund. what a hero lol
  

Nicknames on Skype:
na: Scammer
T-.: Me

Quote
[2:18:16 AM] na: Hi
[3:20:42 PM] T- .:  yea dude
[3:20:43 PM] T- .: you their ?
[3:21:14 PM] na: Xes
[3:21:16 PM] na: Yes
[3:21:26 PM] na: How you doing
[3:21:36 PM] na: Smiley
[3:21:38 PM] T- .: fine, what about you
[3:21:44 PM] T- .: don't tell me you're dying right now again
[3:21:45 PM] na: At work
[3:21:53 PM] na: Lol
[3:21:55 PM] T- .: haha
[3:21:57 PM] na: No Tongue
[3:22:03 PM] T- .: good i need some 60$
[3:22:22 PM] na: Why not 100 is fucking cheap right now
[3:22:24 PM] na: Cheesy
[3:22:40 PM] T- .: hold on i 'll be a recurring costumer but right now i need urgent 60 Cheesy
[3:22:48 PM] na: Ok
[3:22:53 PM] na: Skrill it as usuall
[3:22:57 PM] T- .: of course
[3:23:06 PM] na: And i nees your wallet once is there
[3:23:09 PM] T- .: let me launch that btc prog
[3:23:21 PM] na: You still know my skrill?
[3:23:26 PM] T- .: send it again
[3:24:00 PM] na: Brandfratz@gmail.com
[3:24:01 PM] T- .: dude i might make a huge transaction in the next month o r23 days
[3:24:06 PM] T- .: something like 900$
[3:24:10 PM] na: Cool
[3:24:15 PM] na: Nice deal
[3:24:16 PM] T- .: i am still testing
[3:24:22 PM] T- .: and the last one went well
[3:24:22 PM] T- .: for me
[3:24:57 PM] na: Good to hear
[3:25:01 PM] T- .: hold on
[3:33:34 PM] T- .: sent 20.00 usd
[3:33:42 PM] T- .: here goes 14trwQV8H38z5Cix1P2xYZZvt4DV8C7t5s
[3:33:46 PM] na: You said 60
[3:33:49 PM] T- .: try to give me the tracking link
[3:33:55 PM] T- .: yea will do it 3 stages
[3:33:55 PM] na: I am not here to play games
[3:33:57 PM] T- .: 20,20,20
[3:34:02 PM] na: No
[3:34:06 PM] na: I refund yoi
[3:34:08 PM] na: ..
[3:34:16 PM] T- .: dude what's the issue
[3:34:20 PM] T- .: in doing it 20 20 20 ?
[3:34:29 PM] T- .: i am paying you up front
[3:34:34 PM] T- .: where the games here ?
[3:34:34 PM] na: I not whant xxx times money in skrill
[3:34:39 PM] na: Refunding now
[3:35:09 PM] T- .: that doesn't stant a legit reason for me
[3:35:29 PM] na: Stop to contacting me pleasw
[3:35:49 PM] na: Will you explain skrill the transactions ?
[3:35:54 PM] na: I need my skrill
[3:35:55 PM] T- .: i will send the other 20's after you make the transaction
[3:35:56 PM] na: Ciao
[3:36:06 PM] na: NO i not sell you
[3:36:09 PM] na: Refunding now
[3:36:22 PM] T- .: calm down dude
[3:36:41 PM] T- .: i am supposed to recieve now the btc
[3:36:47 PM] T- .: i believe
[3:37:00 PM] na: Sorry i cant sell to you
[3:37:08 PM] T- .: okay refund please
[3:37:17 PM] na: No
[3:37:26 PM] T- .: that's it then eh
[3:37:42 PM] T- .: well you're losing not winning here , keep that in mind
[3:37:50 PM] na: I extra took 60 from the wallet
[3:37:56 PM] na: I not soing 10000 transactions
[3:38:10 PM] na: Next time say 20
[3:38:13 PM] na: And not 60
[3:38:20 PM] na: Send the 40 and we are done
[3:38:28 PM] T- .: listen here brah, i send 20$ for you, you HAVE my 20$. and NOW you're not refunding nor sending BTC.
[3:38:34 PM] T- .: what is that in short as i don't have time ?
[3:38:50 PM] T- .: it's 60
[3:38:51 PM] na: You should told me 20
[3:38:53 PM] na: Not 60
[3:38:55 PM] T- .: but 3 stages
[3:39:05 PM] na: You not told that before
[3:39:08 PM] T- .: directy after each other
[3:39:13 PM] na: I habe no tome for that
[3:39:17 PM] na: Goodbye
[3:39:29 PM] T- .: doesn't matter as the end result is 60 , anyways can you now PROVE you're trustworthy by refunding or sending to my btc 20$ ?
[3:39:31 PM] T- .: yes or no ?
[3:40:08 PM] T- .: wow a scam! as i guessed
[3:40:41 PM] T- .: that's it ?
[3:40:47 PM] T- .: 20$ for profit ? lol
[3:41:24 PM] T- .: you left no choice but to report that at the forum
[3:42:22 PM] na: Report what you whant
[3:42:25 PM] T- .: dude come the fuck out and smart it up
[3:42:30 PM] T- .: don't be so fucking stupid
[3:42:34 PM] T- .: what you're going to do with 20$ ?
[3:42:43 PM] T- .: i am real and genuine when i say i 've got 900$
[3:42:46 PM] T- .: transaction coming your way
[3:42:49 PM] T- .: don't screw this up
[3:42:56 PM] na: I not care even 90000
[3:43:00 PM] T- .: and it might take a month
[3:43:01 PM] na: You told me 60
[3:43:03 PM] na: Not 20
[3:43:03 PM] T- .: yes
[3:43:08 PM] T- .: and i will do 60 i need them now
[3:43:12 PM] T- .: but
[3:43:15 PM] T- .: 20/20/20
[3:43:15 PM] na: No
[3:43:18 PM] na: No
[3:43:23 PM] na: You not told me before
[3:43:36 PM] T- .: what's the untrusty in this , dude you 've got my money i left good feedback for you what's your point here ?
[3:43:38 PM] na: I delete you now
[3:43:38 PM] na: Bye
[3:43:52 PM] T- .: then i take my options also and i report you
[3:44:00 PM] T- .: and it's you who's ending business here
[3:44:03 PM] na: Hf
[3:44:05 PM] na: Lol
[3:44:11 PM] T- .: yea tell me you're
[3:44:13 PM] T- .: scamming me
[3:44:16 PM] T- .: it's that clear
[3:44:16 PM] na: Sorry i need.to work
[3:44:17 PM] na: Bye
[3:44:35 PM] T- .: hahaha, poor scammer
[3:44:52 PM] T- .: you really lost it Smiley
[3:45:56 PM] T- .: and yes i should've told you before that i am sending them 3 stages, but that doesn't cut it
[3:46:12 PM] T- .: when you've got right now money at your skrill and you're refusing to deal so we can proceed.
[3:46:33 PM] na: I have my reasons
[3:46:43 PM] T- .: common dude you're not a scammer
[3:46:49 PM] na: Im not
[3:46:52 PM] T- .: and you won't scam me
[3:46:55 PM] na: But i not whant 3x.20
[3:46:59 PM] na: I know why
[3:47:12 PM] T- .: yea so send and take a 1$ fee i don't have issue with that AND I WILL CONTINUE WITH YOU
[3:47:21 PM] na: Skrill get quickly suspusios
[3:47:27 PM] na: Is not thenfee omg
[3:47:34 PM] T- .: you've a got a point here
[3:47:48 PM] na: Money laundry etc
[3:47:53 PM] na: Skrill is stupid
[3:48:00 PM] T- .: and i really consider doing real business  but i am just testing right now with small amounts as many business do start
[3:48:03 PM] T- .: you feel me here bro ?
[3:48:07 PM] na: No
[3:48:13 PM] na: I no do 3x 20
[3:48:18 PM] na: No way
[3:48:27 PM] T- .: okay how did you do it last time ?
[3:48:42 PM] na: Last time.you just bought 1 time
[3:49:00 PM] na: I sold 3.22 today on localbitcoins
[3:49:03 PM] na: ..
[3:49:09 PM] na: We can deal there
[3:49:24 PM] T- .: i can relate with you . and i can refund skrill and i have other options but i don't want because it means nothing to me but waste of time so let's do this transaction as it is.
[3:49:44 PM] T- .: at the end of the day, it's my money you've got my 20$

[3:49:46 PM] T- .: is that right ?
[3:50:01 PM] na: Im done here
[3:50:06 PM] na: Either you send 40
[3:50:09 PM] na: Or nothing

[3:50:28 PM] T- .: speechless
[3:52:23 PM] T- .: you won't refund nor send BTC ?
[3:52:41 PM] na: Nope and ingo now

[3:52:46 PM] na: Lost enough time
[3:53:02 PM] T- .: okay i'll then have to open a dispute and spread some news
[3:53:08 PM] T- .: Smiley enjoy your 20$


If anyone can offer any input to help it'll be appreciated.
Thanks.
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October 03, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
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Known scammer.. for $20.. damn people are desperate.

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October 03, 2014, 04:25:05 PM
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Penner is a known scammer and you didn't used escrow,you should have been more careful. Btw,you didn't saw that big red warning -4: -1 / +0(0)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
on his profile?
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October 03, 2014, 04:28:16 PM
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Penner is a known scammer and you didn't used escrow,you should have been more careful. Btw,you didn't saw that big red warning -4: -1 / +0(0)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
on his profile?

This post. How'd you not see the -ve feedback?

Also, you should always use an escrow.

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October 03, 2014, 04:43:15 PM
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The same guy who scammed me and a lot of members here before, check my thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780370.0
He even replied to my thread and i did not recognise him, he is creating multiple accounts with every new successfull scam attempt.
I dunno why there are not serious steps to defend against scammers??!!!
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October 03, 2014, 08:58:11 PM
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What steps you have in mind for such scumbags
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October 03, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
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What steps you have in mind for such scumbags

I dunno, the forum mods and admins should think about it like they should know if you are scammer or not , something like that.
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