Crypto + Economics + AI = Bitcoin

[L.Detweiler]

Any arguments that "it's impossible to build such a device" are refuted by our very existence.

Today Bitcoin is "unaware" but everything is being put in place for the next step in the plan "Bitcoin 2.0" with Smart Contracts.

Bitcoin already has become an autonomous agent which utilizes humans to build itself and issues autonomous payments for improvement work done.

Read these two links. This is where the Bitcoin AI started:

http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1995/09/msg00964.html

http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1995/09/msg01303.html

The next phase of enlightenment:

Smart contracts are contracts that are not just legal documents but actually active AI code. In the beginning smart contracts are just computer programs that facilitate, verify or enforce the performance of a contract. A simple example would be “digital repo”, where access to certain information or a machine would be granted or not depending on whether one party had paid the other. More advanced digital repo contracts can recognize if the seller went absent or bankrupt, and then allow access with no constraints. Over time the intelligence could increase, allowing contracts to actually gather information, check that they are obeyed and even take action.

http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502359.0

When based on the same evidence, the predictions of "statistical prediction rules" are at least as reliable as, and are typically more reliable than, the predictions of human experts for problems of social prediction.

Disclaimer: (AI) does not always mean (Singularity).
http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/01/singularity.html?m=1

[BIT-Sharon]

Does AI mean artificial intelligence？

[S.Boxx]

^ op's talking about Artificial Intelligence. But the question is "strong AI or general AI"?

So it's unaware now and will start to become slowly aware after smart contracts?

How aware? Are we talking "Chinese Room" aware?

You don't think smart contracts could lead to (2:14 am Eastern Time on August 29th, 1997) aware?

You know they do have smart houses, smart cars and smart phones. I guess if connected together to the smart contracts AI....wait a minute...I saw this in that G-Force movie!!

[L.Detweiler]

^ op's talking about Artificial Intelligence. But the question is "strong AI or general AI"?

So it's unaware now and will start to become slowly aware after smart contracts?

How aware? Are we talking "Chinese Room" aware?

You don't think smart contracts could lead to (2:14 am Eastern Time on August 29th, 1997) aware?

You know they do have smart houses, smart cars and smart phones. I guess if connected together to the smart contracts AI....wait a minute...I saw this in that G-Force movie!!

1) It is general AI for now.

2) Smart contracts are single-minded even for (AI)'s; while some may have very advanced pattern recognition or legal thinking modules the "only" thing they care about is performing their contractual function. They might know major secrets, but if they are written to be quiet about them they will remain quiet no matter what.

3) It can reach the point where your own pc, house, car or phone might be hired by a contract to check certain information. A high tech "wire tap" investigation of sorts built into the agreement of the contract. This would occur when the contract has started to think one of the parts is doing advanced cheating that it cannot detect online.

4) With respect to strong AI, Nick(as you can read in his blogs linked above) is very close to the problem, and that's the issue. Like any good engineer/scientist, he sees problems everywhere. Yes, there are many problems before we get to strong AI. That's not news. There were many problems to resolve before people could pay a small sum of money and let a giant metal tube take them through the air to a destination halfway round the world without killing them - but those problems got resolved, one by one. Many problems do not amount to an impossibility, only a damn hard problem (which we knew strong AI was anyway).

5) You do see a lot of it in books and movies, some very well thought. Referring back to Nicks blogs, his other assertion, that the concept of the singularity is a fantasy, Nick's main argument is that the singularity will only last "for a time", and that it will turn into a classic S-curve. He waves Feynman's name around as supporting evidence, but does not address the fact that intelligence (and artificial intelligence in particular) is not subject to the Malthusian laws which have caused other phenomena to follow S-curves. Yes, we only have access to so many particles, but the whole point of exponential AI is figuring out better ways to use the same number of particles. There may be a theoretical limit to how efficiently we can use those particles, but even so there are a lot of particles, and if we can manufacture even just human-equivalent computing matter in factories, that's already enough to achieve a singularity.

[vvv8]

No, no , no, and NO

Listen OP, before you get nightmares about a type of Skynet coming out from bitcoin ,


First off, A.I is as intelligent, and intricate, as a human coder wants it to be, and designs it to be. Understand that ?

In other words, a code, which becomes self aware, and acts in its own interests will only exist if a human designs that.

It will NEVER come to exist on its own, and it will never come to exist by mistake.

To make an A.I which is self aware, self serving, and able to dupe human beings would be the ultimate program, which would need many coders, many layers, and an extreme amount of time and dedication to make. It is not possible in this day and age, to make an A.I able to out wit a human being in all facets of life.

[Meuh6879]

the next step in the plan "Bitcoin 2.0" with Smart Contracts.

Like this ... ?




No thanks ...

[L.Detweiler]

No, no , no, and NO

Listen OP, before you get nightmares about a type of Skynet coming out from bitcoin ,


First off, A.I is as intelligent, and intricate, as a human coder wants it to be, and designs it to be. Understand that ?

In other words, a code, which becomes self aware, and acts in its own interests will only exist if a human designs that.

It will NEVER come to exist on its own, and it will never come to exist by mistake.

To make an A.I which is self aware, self serving, and able to dupe human beings would be the ultimate program, which would need many coders, many layers, and an extreme amount of time and dedication to make. It is not possible in this day and age, to make an A.I able to out wit a human being in all facets of life.

I understand Bitcoin with smart contracts would only be general AI, the "Chinese Room" type but it is still is the foundation for the beginning of strong AI.

The Singularity (Strong AI):

The human brain doesn't need to build a smarter brain. It just needs to build something of equivalent smartness (which should be theoretically possible, there's no reason to believe the human brain is the upper bound for all generalised reasoning ability) on a substrate like silicon which is subject to Moore's Law (and thus gets inherently faster with time) and which is immortal and duplicable.

Build 1 functioning brain in silicon, and:

- 18 months later you can build one that's twice as fast using the same principles

- duplicate this brain and get the power of multiple people thinking together (but with greater bandwidth between them than any human group)

- run this brain for 100 years and get an older intellectually functioning human than has ever existed before

- duplicate whatever learning this brain has accumulated over 100 years (which, say, brings to the level of an Einstein) as many times as you have physical resources for (so, clone Einstein)
All those are paths to super-human AI from the production of a human-intelligence brain in a non-biological form.

So, if a human brain can make a computer brain, which is a reasonable assumption, then a human brain can make a brain smarter than itself.

Building a human brain in a non-biological substrate is not a miracle. It would be a miracle in the same way that transistors and penicillin are, not in the way that Jesus' resurrection is. I.e., a fantastic, happy, unlikely but possible event that will change the world for the better.

We know that human brains can be built in some way: we have the evidence for that claim inside billions of skulls. The question is then not to push the theoretical boundaries of computational capability beyond some theoretical level - but merely to achieve it again artificially.

[vvv8]

No, no , no, and NO

Listen OP, before you get nightmares about a type of Skynet coming out from bitcoin ,


First off, A.I is as intelligent, and intricate, as a human coder wants it to be, and designs it to be. Understand that ?

In other words, a code, which becomes self aware, and acts in its own interests will only exist if a human designs that.

It will NEVER come to exist on its own, and it will never come to exist by mistake.

To make an A.I which is self aware, self serving, and able to dupe human beings would be the ultimate program, which would need many coders, many layers, and an extreme amount of time and dedication to make. It is not possible in this day and age, to make an A.I able to out wit a human being in all facets of life.

I understand Bitcoin with smart contracts would only be general AI, the "Chinese Room" type but it is still is the foundation for the beginning of strong AI.

The Singularity (Strong AI):

The human brain doesn't need to build a smarter brain. It just needs to build something of equivalent smartness (which should be theoretically possible, there's no reason to believe the human brain is the upper bound for all generalised reasoning ability) on a substrate like silicon which is subject to Moore's Law (and thus gets inherently faster with time) and which is immortal and duplicable.

Build 1 functioning brain in silicon, and:

- 18 months later you can build one that's twice as fast using the same principles

- duplicate this brain and get the power of multiple people thinking together (but with greater bandwidth between them than any human group)

- run this brain for 100 years and get an older intellectually functioning human than has ever existed before

- duplicate whatever learning this brain has accumulated over 100 years (which, say, brings to the level of an Einstein) as many times as you have physical resources for (so, clone Einstein)
All those are paths to super-human AI from the production of a human-intelligence brain in a non-biological form.

So, if a human brain can make a computer brain, which is a reasonable assumption, then a human brain can make a brain smarter than itself.

Building a human brain in a non-biological substrate is not a miracle. It would be a miracle in the same way that transistors and penicillin are, not in the way that Jesus' resurrection is. I.e., a fantastic, happy, unlikely but possible event that will change the world for the better.

We know that human brains can be built in some way: we have the evidence for that claim inside billions of skulls. The question is then not to push the theoretical boundaries of computational capability beyond some theoretical level - but merely to achieve it again artificially.

In that sense, I agree with you.