Dear synechist, xc, blocknet, and dan metcalf

[Marlo Stanfield]

Some very good points here.  It's funny that some of us are trying to analyze all this and considering multiple possibilities,

It's called "Ochams Razor". The simplest explanation is the best explanation
You will consider any explanation no matter how imbecilic, and ignore the obvious explanation
Dan was asked to review many coins, and so he reviewed HAL.

Some how you want Dan to be merely a reviewer of all the other coins but suddenly, when it suits you, he stops being a reviewer and becomes the developer of HAL.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

See, I feel that with everything I've witnessed, the simplest and most likely, and most obvious explanation is that Dan et al. haven't acted in an ethical manner. And it takes a full time PR guy like Synechist to keep everything from falling apart.

[adhitthana]

What we know is that in making a coin they are all based on Bitcoin to large degree, so any smart person would get a third party to do the grunt work.

I think you still fail to see that Dan is in desperate need of money. There are endless proof of that already. With action like that it will always end up in a scam.

I don't  think there is any evidence to support that.

[adhitthana]

Some very good points here.  It's funny that some of us are trying to analyze all this and considering multiple possibilities,

It's called "Ochams Razor". The simplest explanation is the best explanation
You will consider any explanation no matter how imbecilic, and ignore the obvious explanation
Dan was asked to review many coins, and so he reviewed HAL.

Some how you want Dan to be merely a reviewer of all the other coins but suddenly, when it suits you, he stops being a reviewer and becomes the developer of HAL.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

See, I feel that with everything I've witnessed, the simplest and most likely, and most obvious explanation is that Dan et al. haven't acted in an ethical manner. And it takes a full time PR guy like Synechist to keep everything from falling apart.

People feel all kinds of things but that doesn't make what they feel true

[RichardT]

Some very good points here.  It's funny that some of us are trying to analyze all this and considering multiple possibilities,

It's called "Ochams Razor". The simplest explanation is the best explanation
You will consider any explanation no matter how imbecilic, and ignore the obvious explanation
Dan was asked to review many coins, and so he reviewed HAL.

Some how you want Dan to be merely a reviewer of all the other coins but suddenly, when it suits you, he stops being a reviewer and becomes the developer of HAL.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Wow, you are either totally trolling or totally do not understand what I've been saying.  WE ALL KNOW THAT DAN CODE REVIEWED FOR HAL.  This has been established.

Here's his code review:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741728.msg8723167;topicseen#msg8723167

What I've been trying to tell you is that he has ALSO always secretly been the dev for HAL (as stated in the skype screenshot).  What this means is that his code review was unethical because he did it while giving people the impression that he had nothing to do with Hal's development.

Here's the screenshot again:  http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#2

Do you understand now or do I really need to explain this step by step?  I've repeated myself like 4 times already.

It's funny, you were the one who told me to go back and re-read things (which I did), yet you probably haven't even carefully read any of the stuff yourself.

[barabbas]

I don't know why this all has to be so complex, when there's smoke, there's fire. Every single coin Dan has come running to offer help or do a code review for were prom pump projects. Halcyon, Aero, Key, and Util. Why has he not done code reviews for other outside coins? Whether he coded these coins personally and lied about reviewing someone else's work is irrelevant, the fact is the connection to Prometheus is very much real and that is disheartening.

I'd more give him the benefit of the doubt if had he ever done outside work for any coins with no proven ties to a pump and dump group because I seriously doubt prom was the only one constantly requesting his services but he hasn't. The ties are there, they are/were business partners or friends, you can't explain it any other way. Of course now they will come scurrying to deny it that they are only "acquaintances".

Even more peculiar is the fact the neither Prometheus nor Dan have denied the obvious business deal, so to speak, between them. Specifically they both had admitted every time they have been asked (but one in which Dan blatantly lied only to correct the lie that came -according to his own words- out of "frustration"), that Dan was indeed being paid by Prometheus to perform code reviews of several coins including those you mention. Obviously Prometheus timed the reviews to facilitate the dumps and obviously also Dan knew everything about it whether he was also benefiting from the pump and dumps -besides the payments received for the code reviews-, or not. That cannot be more unethical and is certainly illegal in the real world and would mean jail time for the perpetrators.

This is not opinion, no hearsay, certainly not FUD or any of the other rhetoric used by Dan's minions; this is just common sense applied to the parties own admissions. They don't negate the screen shots' content. They don't say any of the IRC's posted are false... the minions do.

As you say, it cannot be simpler... except that since it isn't in the interest of those who either participate in the P&D groups associated with Metcalf or his current projects, therefore, it has to be complicated. They want it to be complicated enough to loose the less amount of money possible in their ill-conceived investments. And they will delude themselves and deny any and all evidence to the most irrational limits imaginable... if they cannot excise it by decree like the dictator synechist does on his turf.

Fortunately, only people that wants to be taken for a ride will board those rides from now on.

[adhitthana]

Even more peculiar is the fact the neither Prometheus nor Dan have denied the obvious business deal, so to speak, between them.

Dan Metcalf denied it.

Specifically they both had admitted every time they have been asked (but one in which Dan blatantly lied only to correct the lie that came -according to his own words- out of "frustration"), that Dan was indeed being paid by Prometheus to perform code reviews of several coins including those you mention.

It's perfedctly uunderstandable a person would get frustrated under the circumstances we have seen.

Obviously Prometheus timed the reviews to facilitate the dumps and obviously also Dan knew everything about it whether he was also benefiting from the pump and dumps -besides the payments received for the code reviews-, or not. That cannot be more unethical and is certainly illegal in the real world and would mean jail time for the perpetrators.

Merely claiming something is "obvious" doesn't make it so.

This is not opinion,

That is exactly what it is actually. You giving your opinion then claiming it is not an opinion does not magically transform it. 

[adhitthana]

Some very good points here.  It's funny that some of us are trying to analyze all this and considering multiple possibilities,

It's called "Ochams Razor". The simplest explanation is the best explanation
You will consider any explanation no matter how imbecilic, and ignore the obvious explanation
Dan was asked to review many coins, and so he reviewed HAL.

Some how you want Dan to be merely a reviewer of all the other coins but suddenly, when it suits you, he stops being a reviewer and becomes the developer of HAL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Wow, you are either totally trolling or totally do not understand what I've been saying.  WE ALL KNOW THAT DAN CODE REVIEWED FOR HAL.  This has been established.

There is another option  

What I've been trying to tell you is that he has ALSO always secretly been the dev for HAL

And I'm saying that does not fit when we lok at all the evidence.

(as stated in the skype screenshot).

Except the screen shot  did not say he was the dev. It doesn't say he even did 1 line of coding for anyone. Let alone HAL.

What this means is that his code review was unethical because he did it while giving people the impression that he had nothing to do with Hal's development.

No he was open about the fact he reviewed the coin. There is no evidence he did anything more and a lot of evidence against that.

Here's the screenshot again:  http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#2

Do you understand now or do I really need to explain this step by step?  I've repeated myself like 4 times already.

That screenshot does not mention HAL and it does not mention Dan being the dev of HAL.  
I makes no mention of Dan having done even one line of coding.

It mentions a "project". Most likely the Blocknet.

[Marlo Stanfield]

That screenshot does not mention HAL and it does not mention Dan being the dev of HAL.  
I makes no mention of Dan having done even one line of coding.

It mentions a "project". Most likely the Blocknet.

He was the anon dev for HAL..

Are you trolling?

[danynx]

why so many noise with this?? i thought we all knew from the start that 90% of alts are pump and dump... and that the devs are the same ones thats why they release new shitcoins with newbie acc.. 

[adhitthana]

That screenshot does not mention HAL and it does not mention Dan being the dev of HAL.  
I makes no mention of Dan having done even one line of coding.

It mentions a "project". Most likely the Blocknet.

He was the anon dev for HAL..

Are you trolling?

Are you?
Why did you post an alleged quote from someone but did not give the source of the quote?

[Marlo Stanfield]

That screenshot does not mention HAL and it does not mention Dan being the dev of HAL. 
I makes no mention of Dan having done even one line of coding.

It mentions a "project". Most likely the Blocknet.

He was the anon dev for HAL..

Are you trolling?

Are you?
Why did you post an alleged quote from someone but did not give the source of the quote?

It's from the screen shot you were referring to!

[RichardT]

That screenshot does not mention HAL and it does not mention Dan being the dev of HAL.  
I makes no mention of Dan having done even one line of coding.

It mentions a "project". Most likely the Blocknet.

He was the anon dev for HAL..

Are you trolling?

Are you?
Why did you post an alleged quote from someone but did not give the source of the quote?

It's from the screen shot you were referring to!

Now that he finally refers to the screenshot after avoiding it a few times when asked directly, he goes and say that he can't see mention of hal and Dan being the dev when Prom clearly states it?

Yeah, he is totally trolling. I refuse to believe that somebody could be that stupid.  But then again, I could be proven wrong here.

[barabbas]

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

[Don Flamenco]

Bittrex market opens up soon.  Wonder how the market will react.