i'll try to be quickly im doing this post because i know im not getting my money back but at least if he want to scam another user he will have to create an another account make the fake reputation again etc.... anyway i was trying to sell some amazon giftcards an i as "new" user i always have to send first so i can be scammed like happened ! whatever i sent him the gift card and he was suppose to pay me the 80% on bitcoins at bitstamp rate he said that he made me a btc transfer from his walle on coinbase 5 hours ago..... so i suppose that the transfer was never made then he tried me to scam me again sending me e check paypal paymen *FIRST TIME I SEE THIS* i cancel that payment "justa nother way to scam be alert" and finally he said that he was going to deposit me on my us bank account "3 hours ago" now he still offline on skype i think that anyone would think that is scammed am i right? so how anyone can write this i gonna attach the whole conversation and a screenprint too if you feel free of time just read
bye bye and do not trus nobody seriusly NOBODY here specially when you are a new user like i mean who is going to pay attention to you?
ohhh he also tried to scam me all my gift cards.
hi there
[10:33:16 a.m.] Luis Enrique: fine bro
[10:33:24 a.m.] Luis Enrique: and you
[10:33:42 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Doing well down well, so what transaction are ya wanting to do?
[10:33:56 a.m.] Luis Enrique: bitcoin would be perfect for me
[10:34:03 a.m.] Luis Enrique: at bitstamp rate
[10:34:29 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Ok - just to confirm, are you selling amazon, paypal, what exactly…sorry I have quite a few contacts
[10:34:41 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i am selling amazon
[10:34:47 a.m.] Luis Enrique: 100 gift cards of 300$ each one
[10:35:04 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Wow….I don’t want to know the details man…..
[10:35:13 a.m.] Luis Enrique: thats ok
[10:35:27 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I hope you understand I have to at least verify some before I can send the payment
[10:35:32 a.m.] Apple Sauce: If they credit that’s all I care about
[10:36:20 a.m.] Luis Enrique: of course all you got to do is to apply them to you account
[10:36:27 a.m.] Luis Enrique: after that everything its ok
[10:37:11 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’d like to do an order of 15, so 4500k total, please give me your BTC address and post the first set of codes So I can make sure this is all on the up and up
[10:37:55 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok would like to go on first of one on one
[10:38:04 a.m.] Apple Sauce: ?
[10:38:18 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i send 1 gift card and you send me the bitcoin
[10:38:34 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i don't know you enough to give you 4.5 k
[10:39:23 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Just post 3 codes, 20% of the order total and i’ll send you 50% in BTC, then once those the rest post i’ll send the remaining 50%
[10:40:21 a.m.] Luis Enrique: can we start with one code?
[10:40:27 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Yea thats fine
[10:40:30 a.m.] Luis Enrique: them i will send you more
[10:40:40 a.m.] Luis Enrique: just to generate trust
[10:41:05 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Please post your BTC address
[10:41:15 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’ve got amazon open waiting to make sure it applies
[10:41:36 a.m.] Luis Enrique: nice that what i mean
[10:41:39 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok w8
[10:42:43 a.m.] Luis Enrique: 1H9eeLFLByRnU6UpFnw36Us2fpdc8VRopq
[10:43:29 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Ok - got it setup to send, once we confirm code i’ll send first round
[10:44:06 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok lets be clear before i send
[10:44:15 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i gonna send you the fist GC
[10:44:16 a.m.] Luis Enrique: 300$
[10:44:28 a.m.] Luis Enrique: and you gonna send me the 80% at bitstamp rate to my btc wallet
[10:44:34 a.m.] Luis Enrique: am i right?
[10:44:35 a.m.] Apple Sauce: That is right
[10:47:30 a.m.] Luis Enrique: 80% are 240$, 1 btc is 374$ so you are sending me (240/374)= 0.641 btc to my wallet
[10:47:32 a.m.] Luis Enrique: right?
[10:48:03 a.m.] Apple Sauce: 0.64120487 is the amount sitting in the box for me waiting to hit send
[10:48:22 a.m.] Apple Sauce: So right on the money
[10:48:38 a.m.] Luis Enrique: nice everything is clear then
[10:48:41 a.m.] Luis Enrique: give me 5 min
[10:49:22 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Ok - please post ASAP my man - i’ll be ready for a hell of a lot more once I see this work
[10:50:17 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok thats nice i am waiting to my partner to send me the code
[10:50:23 a.m.] Luis Enrique: just a second
[10:55:50 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Still all good?
[10:57:46 a.m.] Luis Enrique: yes everything it's ok just a moment
[10:57:48 a.m.] Luis Enrique: w8
[10:58:05 a.m.] Apple Sauce: All good
[11:01:20 a.m.] Luis Enrique: done
[11:01:29 a.m.] Luis Enrique: 295$ its ok for you?
[11:01:36 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Yea
[11:01:38 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok
[11:03:53 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Confused….are you posting it here? What do you mean done?
[11:04:03 a.m.] Luis Enrique:
[11:04:12 a.m.] Luis Enrique: sorry
[11:04:19 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i sent you the code
[11:04:22 a.m.] Luis Enrique: received?
[11:04:30 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Downloading now and will apply it
[11:04:38 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok
[11:07:01 a.m.] *** Luis Enrique envió d73aa7097fcc588dfa8fe92ae1cfeffc.jpg ***
[11:07:17 a.m.] Apple Sauce: It’s going extremely slow for some reason
[11:07:23 a.m.] Luis Enrique: just the same photo again
[11:07:43 a.m.] Apple Sauce: The first one wasn’t fully downloaded
[11:07:52 a.m.] Apple Sauce: There we go
[11:07:59 a.m.] Luis Enrique: fine
[11:09:55 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Friend, I do have to ask, because I’ve just been reinstated, is this going to bounce back?
[11:10:52 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Not later on - but even before the order, just want to make sure before I add this to my account
[11:11:26 a.m.] Luis Enrique: this is not going to bounce back i know that i not a fully member on the forum but i have done some trades and you can ask about me to shifttobuddy im not a scammer bro
[11:12:38 a.m.] Luis Enrique: anyway i don't want to be rude but are you asking me this after i sent you the code..
[11:12:42 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i makes no sence
[11:13:08 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I just didn’t realize it was coming in that form, once you sent me the picture, so it threw me off guard
[11:13:13 a.m.] Apple Sauce: No worries i’ve yet to redeem it
[11:13:27 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’ve got a reputation too, and I’m a man of my word
[11:14:16 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Because I’ve had gift cards that were “fishy” before and they came from other sources, I know with that picture it’s coming straight from Amazon, so if it does bounce back its very quick
[11:14:40 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Give me 5 minutes to check on a couple things and then you’ll have your BTC
[11:15:12 a.m.] Luis Enrique: check whatever you want this gift cards are legit
[11:15:32 a.m.] Luis Enrique: just be quickly please
[11:15:43 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Wil do
[11:22:06 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Ok - now lets get down to business. I just applied it and it posted, BTC about to send from coinable. I want to talk to you about this - I’m very interested, but I want some more info.
[11:23:19 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’ve got some insane connections that could move these faster than any forum post, but not just move them, turn them into cash. However, I need an honest answer, have you ever had a single one get refunded?
[11:24:26 a.m.] Apple Sauce: coinbase*, not coinable
[11:24:36 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok we can talk whatever you want and i can give you more info
[11:24:37 a.m.] Luis Enrique: but first
[11:24:47 a.m.] Luis Enrique: did you send the btc?
[11:25:23 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’ve placed the order, will be sending within minutes
[11:26:14 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok just i don't got any incoming transsaction
[11:26:20 a.m.] Luis Enrique: on my btc waller
[11:26:56 a.m.] Apple Sauce: You’ll see the incoming once coinable sends it. Once you place an order they take a few mins to verify if its direct to another wallet from a credit card, it’s stupid but just what they make you do.
[11:27:10 a.m.] Apple Sauce: coinbase* - damn I can’t talk.
[11:27:40 a.m.] Apple Sauce: How many do you actually have in stock?
[11:27:48 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok don't worry
[11:27:51 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i can wait
[11:27:55 a.m.] Luis Enrique: so lets talk
[11:28:07 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i can talk by voice too
[11:28:17 a.m.] Luis Enrique: or you'd rather texting
[11:29:53 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Text for now - other people in room
[11:30:13 a.m.] Luis Enrique: nce
[11:30:15 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok
[11:30:17 a.m.] Luis Enrique: let mee xplain
[11:30:21 a.m.] Luis Enrique: where do you live?
[11:30:23 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I ask how many because I just got my limits raised on daily purchases
[11:30:24 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i mean country
[11:30:27 a.m.] Apple Sauce:
[11:30:37 a.m.] Luis Enrique: got over 30 k
[11:30:39 a.m.] Luis Enrique: tbh
[11:30:54 a.m.] Apple Sauce: So I can do 50k a day, so volume isn’t an issue. I’m in the US
[11:31:30 a.m.] Luis Enrique: do yo got the bitcoin funds?
[11:32:11 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’ve got plenty of BTC, and can get as much as I need.
[11:32:56 a.m.] Luis Enrique: wow...
[11:33:12 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I kid you not that as long as this lasts for a while I can sell 50 of these for you TODAY
[11:33:42 a.m.] Apple Sauce: bitcointalk is not the place to sell those - too many people with their heads so far up their ass
[11:34:18 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok let me understand im sorry if am a lil bit slow to catch up the things
[11:34:41 a.m.] Luis Enrique: are you directly buying me the GC or are selling them to another people that you know?
[11:36:21 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Selling them to a team. Think of it like wholesale. Instead of selling 1,5,or 10 at a time, this group will take 50-100, and you’d take a lesser percentage but it would be a lump sum payment. What i’m saying is that I think you and I could both benefit greatly by teaming up
[11:37:45 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok i get it and it sounds perfect but i can not let me risk that quantity of money i mean i can trust you but i can't trust they
[11:38:02 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i'd rather selling 5 or 10k daily to you
[11:38:05 a.m.] Apple Sauce: And I could easily get you onto exchanges that would let you move HUGE amounts of BTC into and out of cash
[11:38:15 a.m.] Luis Enrique: any way that GC are ok i am not hurry in selling them
[11:38:50 a.m.] Apple Sauce: You wouldn’t have to trust them
[11:39:35 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Essentially it would be like consignment, you and/or I would hold onto the code until they made sales and would then send the card.
[11:40:38 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Here’s the simplest way to say it
[11:41:19 a.m.] Apple Sauce: If you let me help - I can get you $10k in BTC in the next 24 hours
[11:41:30 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Guaranteed
[11:42:07 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i got it a while away believe me a lot of ppl are giving me a lot of options right now but lets go slowly
[11:42:10 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok?
[11:42:26 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Sure - FYI transaction is about to send
[11:42:26 a.m.] Luis Enrique: first let's end our first business 4,5k?
[11:42:36 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok i am waiting
[11:42:41 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Coinbase emailed me, so it will be soon
[11:43:04 a.m.] Apple Sauce: And sure that’s fine. What % would you want if I were to buy 5k?
[11:43:21 a.m.] Luis Enrique: same we talked bro
[11:43:28 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i thats ok for you
[11:43:39 a.m.] Luis Enrique: and it takes agesss
[11:43:59 a.m.] Luis Enrique: next time you should send the btc to a personal wallet first just saying
[11:45:05 a.m.] Apple Sauce: So if I were to go back into my account right now and setup a transaction to send you $3,500 - would that buy me somewhere around $5000 in Gift Codes?
[11:45:36 a.m.] Apple Sauce: And if so - how many minutes would it take for you to post them here?
[11:48:18 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Because if you can get them to me within the hour I’ll send you that NOW
[11:48:35 a.m.] Luis Enrique: yes i can get them
[11:49:22 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Within the hour? If so - what’s your email address, i’m going to add you as a verified contact in coinbase so its quicker when I send
[11:50:09 a.m.] Luis Enrique: with 3500$ you would get 4400$
[11:50:13 a.m.] Luis Enrique: 80% bro
[11:50:26 a.m.] Luis Enrique: my email is
teknonetwork@gmail.com[11:50:43 a.m.] Luis Enrique: why is taking so long the transacction
[11:51:26 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Because they’re under a DDOS attack/SQL hack - I was wondering the same thing and it’s on the front page of reddit.com/r/bitcoin
[11:52:57 a.m.] Luis Enrique: i can enter normally to
https://www.coinbase.com/[11:53:19 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Yes it’s their API which authenticates transactions
[11:53:56 a.m.] Apple Sauce: Someone hacked part of it:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2lt76n/warning_coinbase_oauth_phishing_attack_allows/[11:54:06 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok so what is going on
[11:54:23 a.m.] Luis Enrique: are canceling the transaction and paying me in another way
[11:54:27 a.m.] Luis Enrique: are you
[11:54:48 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’m just waiting for the BTC to send and then hopefully placing a larger order if the site will cooperate
[11:55:29 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I can’t cancel it now - but I can buy a second set of gift cards via PayPal if you’d like
[11:56:32 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I’m guessing you prefer BTC? - i’ll buy 3 via PayPal right now if you have them
[11:56:53 a.m.] Luis Enrique: im not releasing nothing until i get the first pay
[11:57:32 a.m.] Apple Sauce: I can pay for 2 via papal, release 1 to me, and then once the BTC send you give me the second one? Fair?
[11:58:51 a.m.] Luis Enrique: ok pay me you first the first one on paypal because i did not get the btc... and the i send you the GC
[11:58:53 a.m.] Luis Enrique: fair?
[11:59:06 a.m.] Luis Enrique: my paypal email is
elcuerv0sd@gmail.com[11:59:46 a.m.] Apple Sauce: OK so I send payment for one to that address and you’ll release a second one to me right now? because that transaction WILL go through, I can’t stop it now
[12:00:33 p.m.] Luis Enrique: yes that's right
[12:01:13 p.m.] Luis Enrique: im on paypal waiting the payment
[12:01:18 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Logging in now
[12:01:54 p.m.] Luis Enrique: sorry wrong mail
[12:02:02 p.m.] Apple Sauce: wow - ha good timing
[12:02:04 p.m.] Luis Enrique:
elcuerv0sd@outlook.com[12:02:06 p.m.] Luis Enrique: haha
[12:02:16 p.m.] Luis Enrique: anyway you can cancel any payment
[12:02:47 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Ok - so you have it reay to go as soon as I submit payment? Because I’m about to place an order on Amazon and would like to add that
[12:02:58 p.m.] Luis Enrique: yes of course
[12:03:53 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Sent
[12:04:02 p.m.] Luis Enrique: let me check
[12:04:57 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Just got my confirmation
[12:05:23 p.m.] Luis Enrique: echeck?
[12:05:48 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Only option it gave me for your adress
[12:06:04 p.m.] Luis Enrique: sorry cancel it i can not see the funds on my account
[12:06:19 p.m.] Apple Sauce: you have to cancel it on your end - they’re not in your accoutn?
[12:07:06 p.m.] *** Luis Enrique envió Captura de pantalla 2014-11-10 a las 12.06.14.png ***
[12:07:37 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Cancel it and i’m going to try to resend as instant
[12:07:55 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok let me cancel it
[12:08:28 p.m.] Luis Enrique: done
[12:10:53 p.m.] Luis Enrique: so?
[12:11:40 p.m.] Apple Sauce: working on it now - just a few minutes
[12:12:30 p.m.] Luis Enrique: working on what?
[12:14:03 p.m.] Apple Sauce: instant transfer
[12:14:14 p.m.] Luis Enrique: why is it talking to much
[12:14:19 p.m.] Luis Enrique: if you was logged on your account?
[12:14:33 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Because I don’t know why it won’t let me send with any option other than echeck
[12:14:37 p.m.] Apple Sauce: chatting with support
[12:15:09 p.m.] Luis Enrique: what other options do you have?
[12:15:15 p.m.] Luis Enrique: to pay me?
[12:17:31 p.m.] Luis Enrique: hi there
[12:17:50 p.m.] Apple Sauce: One second man, ha sorry my lady just walked in the room, no worried, ill have it to you asap
[12:18:19 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok seems like the bitcoins are not coming never (worry)
[12:22:18 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok i am trying to be patient
[12:23:01 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Sorry i’m chatting with them - is your account verified
[12:23:21 p.m.] Luis Enrique: yes it is!
[12:23:30 p.m.] Luis Enrique: even bank verified
[12:25:50 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Ok, it’s because of the amount I’ve done. Im calling them and ill be back on in 15 minutes, they’re going to let me send it
[12:26:10 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok
[12:26:11 p.m.] Luis Enrique: i wait
[12:26:19 p.m.] Luis Enrique: what happened with the btc
[12:36:05 p.m.] Apple Sauce: It’s still queud
[12:36:33 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Paypal says my only option is an check for now if you want that for now
[12:37:10 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok what bank do you have?
[12:37:18 p.m.] Luis Enrique: forget paypal so
[12:39:09 p.m.] Apple Sauce: chase
[12:39:42 p.m.] Luis Enrique: i got an account there
[12:39:48 p.m.] Luis Enrique: can you make an instant transfer i guess
[12:40:01 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Let me check - if not I can for sure do a wire
[12:40:41 p.m.] Luis Enrique: wtf
[12:40:56 p.m.] Apple Sauce: It’s international - that changes a lot
[12:41:07 p.m.] Luis Enrique: i don't want an international transfer
[12:41:09 p.m.] Apple Sauce: fees, laws, etc
[12:41:11 p.m.] Luis Enrique: I WANT A CHASE- CHASE TRANSFER
[12:41:16 p.m.] Luis Enrique: CHASE TO CHASE
[12:41:21 p.m.] Luis Enrique: just a local transfer
[12:42:04 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Oh really? Ok then I’ll get it setup - I wish i could cancel that damn btc
[12:42:48 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok i gonna give you the bank info
[12:42:51 p.m.] Apple Sauce: sounds good
[12:49:38 p.m.] Luis Enrique: my cousin the one that got the chase account is not answering
[12:49:44 p.m.] Luis Enrique: send me the money by skill please
[12:50:46 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Ok - How about this, just wait until you get the chase info, I just confirmed I can send it, I’ll send it as soon as I see it. But I’ve got a great rep on the site and I won’t risk it, but I’ve got to take care of a few things, I should be back on in about an hour
[12:51:46 p.m.] Luis Enrique: whaaat?
[12:51:53 p.m.] Luis Enrique: lets do something
[12:51:58 p.m.] Luis Enrique: send me my gift card back
[12:52:03 p.m.] Luis Enrique: to my amazon email
[12:52:20 p.m.] Luis Enrique: i don't want to do bussines with you
[12:52:53 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok?
[12:52:57 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Dude I thought you said you had 100 - can we not wait until we actually have this setup - we’ve already setup a transaction, I’m no going to run off man
[12:53:03 p.m.] Luis Enrique: no thank you
[12:53:06 p.m.] Luis Enrique: i got another buyer
[12:53:18 p.m.] Luis Enrique: 1 hour after didn't get any payment from you
[12:53:23 p.m.] Apple Sauce: I can’t send this back, I’ve already applied it now
[12:53:54 p.m.] Luis Enrique: yes you can
[12:53:54 p.m.] Luis Enrique: just buy a gift card with the gift card balance
[12:53:55 p.m.] Luis Enrique: im not new at amazon
[12:54:30 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok?
[12:54:54 p.m.] Apple Sauce: That’s not possible, you can read it yourself - just read it on the site
[12:55:11 p.m.] Apple Sauce: If you have 100, then another buyer doesn’t matter - you can sell them 1, unless you’re not telling the truth
[12:55:24 p.m.] Apple Sauce: get me the bank info and I will pay you what I owe you
[12:55:43 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Dude my hands are tied right now
[12:55:52 p.m.] Luis Enrique: deposit it to my boa account
[12:55:58 p.m.] Luis Enrique: in any atm
[12:56:10 p.m.] Apple Sauce: ok I can do that
[12:56:13 p.m.] Luis Enrique: w8 im sending my bank info
[12:56:15 p.m.] Luis Enrique: nice
[12:56:48 p.m.] Luis Enrique: no
[12:56:49 p.m.] Luis Enrique: are you going out?
[12:57:51 p.m.] Luis Enrique: account number: 898062362749
[12:57:53 p.m.] Luis Enrique: luis acosta
[12:57:56 p.m.] Luis Enrique: zip code 33178
[12:58:05 p.m.] Luis Enrique: do you need anything else?
[12:58:35 p.m.] Apple Sauce: An ATM won’t take that info, it would need account and routing and/or debit card/pin
[12:58:42 p.m.] Apple Sauce: I can drive thru
[12:58:49 p.m.] Luis Enrique: routing
[12:58:49 p.m.] Luis Enrique: 063100277
[12:59:00 p.m.] Luis Enrique: anything else?
[12:59:30 p.m.] Apple Sauce: I don’t think so - i’ll message you from Skype on my phone if there is. Sound good?
[12:59:46 p.m.] Luis Enrique: yes it sounds good
[01:00:04 p.m.] Luis Enrique: give me your phone to call you if there we can get in touch by skype
[01:00:46 p.m.] Luis Enrique: about in how much are you making the deposit
[01:00:52 p.m.] Luis Enrique: how much time
[01:00:52 p.m.] Apple Sauce: It’s my Skype name - it goes right to my phone same as call
[01:01:17 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Should be about an 45 mins to an hour
[01:01:21 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok nice
[01:01:25 p.m.] Luis Enrique: i can wait
[01:01:36 p.m.] Apple Sauce: Sounds good man - peace, ill text you when its don
[01:01:38 p.m.] Apple Sauce: done*
[01:01:50 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ok please
[01:01:53 p.m.] Luis Enrique:
[04:36:37 p.m.] Luis Enrique: 3 hours later
[04:36:43 p.m.] Luis Enrique: ...
