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Question: Will we get fooled again? You know what I'm talking about...
Yes, there are already other bitcoin ponzi/frauds out there - 45 (57.7%)
Yes, but not for a while, people have to "forget" this lesson so they can be doomed to repeat it - 11 (14.1%)
No, everyone has learned their lesson - 1 (1.3%)
I was never fooled, so it doesn't matter what happens to other people - 12 (15.4%)
It's not a scam, and pirate will suddenly repay as a grand-finale, punishing the nonbelievers that took MNW's bet - 5 (6.4%)
I have no clue - 3 (3.8%)
Other (please fill in) - 1 (1.3%)
Total Voters: 78

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September 01, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
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Quote from: znort987 on September 01, 2012, 04:17:58 PM
If you're earning wages and paying into social security,
you're already getting fooled. The con is just longer,
but the basic principle is exactly the same.

mind=blown.

I hadn't thought of it in those exact terms before. I knew SSI was BS, but I hadn't made a connection to it being an actual Ponzi. That's exactly what it is, though, isn't it? If obligations are paid with later deposits, that's a damn Ponzi.

Hey... I don't suppose you can cash out all your SSI benefits all at once?  Grin
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September 01, 2012, 07:33:50 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
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September 01, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
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It's all part of a maturing free market.
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September 01, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
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Quote from: myrkul on September 01, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: znort987 on September 01, 2012, 04:17:58 PM
If you're earning wages and paying into social security,
you're already getting fooled. The con is just longer,
but the basic principle is exactly the same.

mind=blown.

I hadn't thought of it in those exact terms before. I knew SSI was BS, but I hadn't made a connection to it being an actual Ponzi. That's exactly what it is, though, isn't it? If obligations are paid with later deposits, that's a damn Ponzi.

Hey... I don't suppose you can cash out all your SSI benefits all at once?  Grin

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September 01, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
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Quote from: jojo69 on September 01, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: myrkul on September 01, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: znort987 on September 01, 2012, 04:17:58 PM
If you're earning wages and paying into social security,
you're already getting fooled. The con is just longer,
but the basic principle is exactly the same.

mind=blown.

I hadn't thought of it in those exact terms before. I knew SSI was BS, but I hadn't made a connection to it being an actual Ponzi. That's exactly what it is, though, isn't it? If obligations are paid with later deposits, that's a damn Ponzi.

Hey... I don't suppose you can cash out all your SSI benefits all at once?  Grin

welcome to the red pill brother

Oh, I took that a long time ago. My issues with SSI were just coming from a different angle. Realizing that it is not only a government program I'm forced to pay into but a government Ponzi that I'm forced to pay into was just a little shocking. Wink
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September 10, 2012, 02:44:52 PM
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Quote from: myrkul on September 01, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
Quote from: jojo69 on September 01, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: myrkul on September 01, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: znort987 on September 01, 2012, 04:17:58 PM
If you're earning wages and paying into social security,
you're already getting fooled. The con is just longer,
but the basic principle is exactly the same.

mind=blown.

I hadn't thought of it in those exact terms before. I knew SSI was BS, but I hadn't made a connection to it being an actual Ponzi. That's exactly what it is, though, isn't it? If obligations are paid with later deposits, that's a damn Ponzi.

Hey... I don't suppose you can cash out all your SSI benefits all at once?  Grin

welcome to the red pill brother

Oh, I took that a long time ago. My issues with SSI were just coming from a different angle. Realizing that it is not only a government program I'm forced to pay into but a government Ponzi that I'm forced to pay into was just a little shocking. Wink

Social security is not a ponzi, the money is invested in bonds, that generate real returns, and pays out using those returns. It may end up to be in deficit due to unrealistic promises and mis-calculation, and require government intervention (for example raising the retirement age, as they have done before), but it is not a ponzi.
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September 10, 2012, 05:50:59 PM
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George Bush said it best... well, he said it anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
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