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January 19, 2015, 01:07:41 AM
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As France recovers from last week’s terrorist attacks against the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, the Western world, including journalists and social media spectators across the political spectrum, are rallying around freedom of speech – even offensive speech.

While they are rightly united in the conviction that objectionable expression should be safe from violent retaliation, it is increasingly clear that the freedom of speech often works only at that bare minimum — protecting us from imprisonment and decapitation by governments, but not from social and economic destruction by our fellow Americans, including government officials.

Take the case of Kelvin Cochran, Atlanta’s former fire chief. Cochran was fired by Mayor Kasim Reed last week after 30 years of service for writing a book on morality, with a passage on homosexuality, in his private time for a Bible study group.

Another mayor who has targeted those with certain beliefs is Houston Mayor Annise Parker, who last October moved to subpoena sermons from pastors who had opposed an ordinance that would make public bathrooms gender-neutral. After a national outcry, Parker backed-off.

Two leading businesspeople have also faced the wrath of the outrage industry. Last year, Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich — who along with 52 percent of California voters backed the pro-marriage Proposition 8 in 2008– was forced to resign over his beliefs.

Memorably in 2012, Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy was the object of public rage for maintaining traditional views on marriage, as well as the target of vindictive mayors Tom Menino of Boston and Rahm Emanuel of Chicago, who threatened to exile his business.

It’s not just public officials who engage in this behavior. Marquette University’s Professor John McAdams was banned from campus for blog posts criticizing fellow faculty member Cheryl Abbate. McAdams criticized Abbate for saying — in a class discussion on controversial ethical issues, at a Catholic university — that “everybody agrees on [gay rights], and there is no need to discuss it.”

Perhaps surprisingly, no punishment has come to Abatte, who told a student, “you don’t have the right in this class to make homophobic comments” — which appear to include any divergence from the LGBT agenda.

The purge continues in the media, where Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson was suspended for quoting the Bible on marriage, and the show Flip It Forward was cancelled over the pro-life, pro-family, views of Jason and David Benham.

And the list goes on. Civil suits abound to force Christian bakers, florists, photographers, and chapel operators to implement the new definition of marriage. Religious organizations have been forced to shut-down charitable adoption agencies in light of same-sex “marriage” laws. More recently, our nation’s capital removed religious liberty protections to potentially force religious organizations to pay for abortions, as well as make Catholic schools promote LGBT activities.

In England, couples who hold traditional views are often even deemed unfit to foster or adopt children.

The public crusade for unanimity on controversial issues goes beyond sexuality. Last year, a curiously high number of conservative university commencement speakers were disinvited by angry student bodies over their politics.

The attacks can get quite personal. Questioning climate change (despite the scientific community’s backing away from the “hockey stick,” rethinking the thermal absorbency of the ocean, adjusting 20th century temperature readings, massaging data, making a host of failed predictions, and changing the phenomenon’s very name) is to be dubbed the village idiot. Anything short of fully standing behind the media and government’s particular conceptualization of the campus rape problem is declared to be misogyny, as is suggesting solutions contrary to sexual libertinism. To give the benefit of the doubt to police officers dealing with unruly suspects is racist. And to maintain that marriage is what it was universally considered until 2003 is not only bigotry, but high blasphemy.

Once labeled, offenders face peril in their employment and communities. While the First Amendment does not protect one from private discrimination – government officials like Emanuel, Parker, and Reed may want to check their pocket Constitutions, however — nor does society benefit from targeting those whose opinions are merely politically incorrect or unpopular.

So while events in France have rightly energized all sides to cheer the freedom to express unpopular opinions, the West should take the opportunity to ask whether the bare minimum of not executing those who profess unpopular speech is enough. Indeed, we should consider whether it is not still a violation of fundamental liberties for society to deny its citizens the opportunity to use the breath they have been allowed to keep.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/18/the-silence-of-the-sheep/

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January 19, 2015, 01:48:36 AM
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Political correctness has long ago went too far and hopefully now more Americans are becoming tired of hearing about it or having to tip toe around certain issues because they don't want to offend some minority group. We're all individuals but that's the wonderful thing about putting people into groups: you can keep them fighting each other and keeping the media focused on it when, in reality, these various individuals should be focusing their efforts on those in the academia, media, govt, banking industry, MIC, etc that are bankrupting the futures of all these petty, fooled and squabbling individuals that have been corralled in to groups.
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January 19, 2015, 04:47:56 AM
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Political correctness has long ago went too far and hopefully now more Americans are becoming tired of hearing about it or having to tip toe around certain issues because they don't want to offend some minority group. We're all individuals but that's the wonderful thing about putting people into groups: you can keep them fighting each other and keeping the media focused on it when, in reality, these various individuals should be focusing their efforts on those in the academia, media, govt, banking industry, MIC, etc that are bankrupting the futures of all these petty, fooled and squabbling individuals that have been corralled in to groups.
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January 19, 2015, 04:55:30 AM
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Fair point Wilkon the LGBT agenda is forcing an opinion on one group of individuals to not dissent and punish them for their opinions.
That this is accepted as the norm in society when it is still being challenged on all fronts by trying to destroy people and their livelihoods whenever they present a dissenting opinion makes me wonder.
If this is societal acceptance I am curious what we would call persecution for those who are of a different opinion.

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January 19, 2015, 06:12:43 AM
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Fair point Wilkon the LGBT agenda is forcing an opinion on one group of individuals to not dissent and punish them for their opinions.
That this is accepted as the norm in society when it is still being challenged on all fronts by trying to destroy people and their livelihoods whenever they present a dissenting opinion makes me wonder.
If this is societal acceptance I am curious what we would call persecution for those who are of a different opinion.

For gays to have powerful, rich lobbyists to push and push and push is not surprising. I do not believe they will make more friends to their cause, but some among them want to see results before their natural death. Now. This is what we are seeing I believe and it is fascinating to observe.

What I don't get is the ultimate silence of the pink mafia toward their brothers and sisters being massacred, we know by whom, we know where, on this planet.

Their silence is deafening... Why?


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January 19, 2015, 07:45:00 AM
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Fair point Wilkon the LGBT agenda is forcing an opinion on one group of individuals to not dissent and punish them for their opinions.
That this is accepted as the norm in society when it is still being challenged on all fronts by trying to destroy people and their livelihoods whenever they present a dissenting opinion makes me wonder.
If this is societal acceptance I am curious what we would call persecution for those who are of a different opinion.

For gays to have powerful, rich lobbyists to push and push and push is not surprising. I do not believe they will make more friends to their cause, but some among them want to see results before their natural death. Now. This is what we are seeing I believe and it is fascinating to observe.

What I don't get is the ultimate silence of the pink mafia toward their brothers and sisters being massacred, we know by whom, we know where, on this planet.

Their silence is deafening... Why?




I can see a push in the future by gay right activists in regards to the way gay individuals are treated in society more than presently for preferential treatment in job quotas etc, media treatment, education, adoption as has already been mentioned where individuals with traditional values are now the ones being discriminated against in favor of gender neutral parenting. And by extent trying to push and force their stances in other countries worldwide, limiting discussion of the issue by arguing for freedom of choice as an excuse to force others to convert towards their stance or be persecuted by them as seen in the examples you noted.

For me the question is that once the Supreme court decision is passed, it is likely they will use this as a lobbying base towards more radical societal changes, and try to force other countries to accept their values against the norm that society uses. But the gay rights community are strategic about how they play these things they didn't launch a supreme court challenge till they were certain they were likely to win, and once its passed it can't or will not be reopened even if circumstances change, if their were anti-rights activists this issue should have been tested years ago to make it all the more harder.

That said this is a bit like feminism watching that evolve over the years as it then split into different factions, as for that place on the planet they know it's not happening since they still retain societal values that are very different from the West, but as the Clash of Civilizations argues we can't say they are superior to each other.

We do live in interesting times Wilkon, there is a lot of lobbyist money to the gay rights movement but any dissent is simply crushed with money and then an argument of free speech, at the same time an organization would have difficulty starting up to provide an opinion against gay rights freedom without being persecuted and bullied so its kind of like fighting with one hand tied behind your back, that said it is a given that the gay rights groups have pushed far to get to where they are at now basically starting from that one hand tied behind their back position, but over time they have also adopted the dirty tactics that come with power as well.

For the bullied to become the bullies it is interesting stuff.

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January 19, 2015, 04:59:03 PM
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The only silence of the sheep comes when they take breaths of air between their bleating.

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January 19, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
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Fair point Wilkon the LGBT agenda is forcing an opinion on one group of individuals to not dissent and punish them for their opinions.
That this is accepted as the norm in society when it is still being challenged on all fronts by trying to destroy people and their livelihoods whenever they present a dissenting opinion makes me wonder.
If this is societal acceptance I am curious what we would call persecution for those who are of a different opinion.
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What I don't get is the ultimate silence of the pink mafia toward their brothers and sisters being massacred, we know by whom, we know where, on this planet.

Their silence is deafening... Why?
Because destroying freedom is the goal. 

If it is already destroyed somewhere, like in Russia or Iran, they have nothing to do!
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January 19, 2015, 11:34:38 PM
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Fair point Wilkon the LGBT agenda is forcing an opinion on one group of individuals to not dissent and punish them for their opinions.
That this is accepted as the norm in society when it is still being challenged on all fronts by trying to destroy people and their livelihoods whenever they present a dissenting opinion makes me wonder.
If this is societal acceptance I am curious what we would call persecution for those who are of a different opinion.
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What I don't get is the ultimate silence of the pink mafia toward their brothers and sisters being massacred, we know by whom, we know where, on this planet.

Their silence is deafening... Why?
Because destroying freedom is the goal. 

If it is already destroyed somewhere, like in Russia or Iran, they have nothing to do!

Excellent point but is that necessarily a bad thing should it just remain in the shadows instead of entering into mainstream acceptance.
That is where it becomes a value judgement

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