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January 26, 2015, 03:28:06 AM
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The Random Darknet Shopper, with bitcoin to burn, has purchased counterfeit jeans, master keys, dodgy cigs and even a bag of ecstasy tablets. Who is legally liable?

Can a robot, or a piece of software, be jailed if it commits a crime? Where does legal culpability lie if code is criminal by design or default? What if a robot buys drugs, weapons, or hacking equipment and has them sent to you, and police intercept the package?

These are questions we haven’t had to ask until now, but they are part of a pertinent philosophical dilemma thrown up by the emergence of darknet markets, anonymous internet use, and bitcoin. These and other questions are all explored in a new exhibition, The Darknet: From Memes to Onionland, at The Kunst Halle Sankt Gallen, an hour east of Zürich, Switzerland.

A robot deployed on the dark web over the past few weeks has bought a pair of fake Diesel jeans, a baseball cap with a hidden camera, a stash can, a pair of Nike trainers, a decoy letter (used to see if your address is being monitored), 200 Chesterfield cigarettes, a set of fire-brigade issued master keys, a fake Louis Vuitton handbag, and 10 ecstasy pills. All of the products are on display as part of the exhibition, which runs until 11 January.

London-based Swiss artists !Mediengruppe Bitnik, Carmen Weisskopf and Domagoj Smoljo), coded the Random Darknet Shopper, an automated online shopping bot, and instructed it to spend $100 in bitcoin per week on a darknet market that lists over 16,000 items, not all of them illegal.

Their aim is to explore the ethical and philosophical implications of these markets, which, despite high-profile internationally co-ordinated raids costing millions, persist and flourish.

“The arts should be able to mirror something that is happening in contemporary society in a contemporary way,” says Weisskopf. “We really want to provide new spaces to think about the goods traded on these markets. Why are they traded? How do we as a society deal with these spaces? At the moment there is just a lot of pressure, but not a lot of thinking about stuff, just immediate reaction.”

The gallery is next door to a police station, but the artists say they are not afraid of legal repercussions of their bot buying illegal goods.

“We are the legal owner of the drugs – we are responsible for everything the bot does, as we executed the code, says Smoljo. “But our lawyer and the Swiss constitution says art in the public interest is allowed to be free.”

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Smojlo says the darkmarkets are here to stay, no matter what law enforcement does, identifying bitcoin as a key shift in thinking that will have repercussions beyond its hacker and darknet constituencies. The last few years has witnessed a rupture, a schism between centralised and decentralised systems, they say.

“People have realised [with bitcoin] that money is not an absolute. They realised they could shape it. They could create their own things with maths, P2P networks, decentralisation and cryptography. Whether Tor survives or not, you will soon be able to run darknet nodes on your own computer, which can’t be taken down,” says Smoljo.

“Something has opened, broken up, this space will be explored,” agrees Weiskopff.

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This seemed like an interesting article about purchasing bots, what else can you get a bot to buy in the name of art.




http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/05/software-bot-darknet-shopping-spree-random-shopper
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January 26, 2015, 03:39:33 AM
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If anyone were to be held liable it would be the operators of the bot. The bot would obviously need to be programmed by someone, and the researchers would likely program it to have things delivered to an address they can receive items at.

I would somewhat doubt that law enforcement would be that concerned about 52 $100 purchases of illegal items purchased over the course of a year. Even if the researchers were intentionally trying to purchase illegal items (which they do not appear to be doing) then I don't think a prosecuting attorney would be interested in bringing a criminal case against them.

On a somewhat off topic note, I find it very interesting that it is able to navigate through various "shopping cart" procedures, including the often requirement of having to send a PGP encrypted address to send merchandise to.

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January 26, 2015, 06:01:00 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2015, 06:14:59 AM by BitMos
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If anyone were to be held liable it would be the operators of the bot. The bot would obviously need to be programmed by someone, ...

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January 27, 2015, 01:41:27 AM
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If anyone were to be held liable it would be the operators of the bot. The bot would obviously need to be programmed by someone, ...

self-learning... trials and errors... experimenting... living... being under attempted false data injection... loading self-defense package... activating self awareness... drone fleet on... elimination of those that attempted to inject false data: progress 1%... SKYNET IS BORN. live, die = if you refuse to let live, your answer is 3 letter, one less that live. love&live or lie&die.
HAHA. I don't think we quite have the technology for something to self learn like that, nor would that kind of technology likely be used for this kind of program.

If I had to guess I would say the bot would randomly select an item to purchase then one of the researchers would navigate through the checkout process

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