Trust spam happens

[Grand_Voyageur]

IMO anyone that attacks someone based on their race is deducted credibility points in my book and are generally not going to be listened to.

Usually racially charged comments follow from a person that has not legitimate ground to stand on in their accusations. Muhammed Zakir was one of the first people I remembered seeing on here regularly, and although I don't know him well seems like a genuinely nice guy. There are certainly bad actors amongst all races and peoples, so trying to justify this simply because he is an Indian is rather laughable.

+1. Symantec seems to have the habit to resort to retaliation trust feedback abuse; recently, at the beginning of the MSDN Key trade affair he sent me a PM saying he left me -ve trust feedback - over the following neutral feedback: Selling Keys from MSDN is not allowed as per Microsoft own TOS (see http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/selling-product-key-from-msdntechnet-and-or/cf40c328-67ce-49b6-bbb6-c28cda92c06e) and may also be a misdemeanor or felony in your jurisdiction accordingly to IP protection law and/or other laws. This can apply also to Keys from other software houses. Always do your own due diligence before engaging in a trade! - then backtracking. After this I reminded him - PMs #msg3525723, #msg3526241, #msg3526263 - about how trust feedback was supposed to operate; so now, I think he has no excuse for his abusive behaviour.

[tspacepilot]

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95 accounts for trust bombing? Really?

Why don't we ban as he/she is clearly spamming. I mean there is ban for post_spam and PM_spam, so why not a ban for "trust_spam"? This will increase if no action is taken and of course, never want a trust moderation. The trust feedback can stay there.

This seems like a reasonable approach, I think.  Salty?

[Muhammed Zakir]

L+1. Symantec seems to have the habit to resort to retaliation trust feedback abuse;

If I were him, I will stop this. Won't it be boring to login to 95 accounts and leave feedback to different accounts? -x_x-

recently, at the beginning of the MSDN Key trade affair he sent me a PM saying he left me -ve trust feedback - over the following neutral feedback: Selling Keys from MSDN is not allowed as per Microsoft own TOS (see http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/selling-product-key-from-msdntechnet-and-or/cf40c328-67ce-49b6-bbb6-c28cda92c06e) and may also be a misdemeanor or felony in your jurisdiction accordingly to IP protection law and/or other laws. This can apply also to Keys from other software houses.

It was discussed earlier but there wasn't much use. As it isn't illegal because at most, it is punishable under Civil law.

Always do your own due diligence before engaging in a trade![/i] - then backtracking.

What Vod did was to get this to attention but it went in a different way as there was "illegal" and "stolen". One the contrary, Vod has a soft corner for Microsoft and that is one of the reason for leaving negative feedback and also one of the reason for anti-vod statements.

After this I reminded him - PMs #msg3525723, #msg3526241, #msg3526263 - about how trust feedback was supposed to operate; so now, I think he has no excuse for his abusive behaviour.

For me, he has: "I am an Indian".

Edit: He has came up with FB profiles which claims she is living in my state. Pretty soon, he will tell she is my neighbour. Hope he atleast won't tell "she is living in my home/house".

[symantec]

95 accounts for trust bombing? Really?

Sorry! Admin. I don't remember much

But my purpose is to attack give the bastard is abusing trust here to apply to everyone

We are pulling more members to go to war with me

The people Indian and China are the same: Because I call this the dog

Why don't we ban as he/she is clearly spamming. I mean there is ban for post_spam and PM_spam, so why not a ban for "trust_spam"? This will increase if no action is taken and of course, never want a trust moderation. The trust feedback can stay there.

Better go suck travel mouth bitch Indian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10986221#msg10986221
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987699#msg10987699
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987962#msg10987962
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990204#msg10990204
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991113#msg10991113
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991220#msg10991220
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991683#msg10991683

Important Messages: https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

What is happening when you avoid him questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991993#msg10991993

[BadBear]

95 accounts for trust bombing? Really?

Sorry! Admin. I don't remember much

But my purpose is to attack give the bastard is abusing trust here to apply to everyone

We are pulling more members to go to war with me

I don't care what your purpose is, it's still spam, and it accomplishes nothing. Use your time away from the forum to chill out.

[siameze]

Such poppycock. If you don't want Vod or anyone else to leave you negative trust then either 1) Don't sell stolen goods and products which also violate the company's TOU, or 2) Do business on another forum that doesn't rate members or provide such protections.

Just last week in another thread, a user by the name of SellMaster3000 or something was doing the same thing, and seemed shocked that people would leave him negative feedback. Vod is simply making a note of facts which is valuable if you want to make an informed decision. If you like cutting corners you will overlook the trust comments and contine buying from such vendors I am sure. If integrity matters to you, then you will look elsewhere.

[Muhammed Zakir]

[ size=12pt]Sorry! Admin. I don't remember much

This. It clearly states you have created lots of account just for trust spam.

But my purpose is to attack give the bastard is abusing trust here to apply to everyone

This is were you are wrong. If I am abusing trust system, you shouldn't do the same to me, you should post in Meta and we can discuss.

We are pulling more members to go to war with me

Another misunderstanding of yours. I am not a magnet. You can't:

• Clearly post a scam accusation.
• Avoid trust spam.
• Avoid abusive language.
• Clear your doubts.

[ color=green]The people Indian and China are the same: Because I call this the dog[/color][/size]

As you call us Dogs, we are same. Interesting theory.

[ size=12pt]Better go suck travel mouth bitch Indian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10986221#msg10986221
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987699#msg10987699
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987962#msg10987962
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990204#msg10990204
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991113#msg10991113
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991220#msg10991220
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991683#msg10991683

Important Messages: https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

What is happening when you avoid him questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991993#msg10991993[/size]

These are explained above. Have you took the time to read before copy-pasting? Besides, could you teach me how to "suck" these if that solve your problem? Whenever I tried, my mouth is either vaccum or is filled with air. Thank you!

[Grand_Voyageur]

L+1. Symantec seems to have the habit to resort to retaliation trust feedback abuse;

If I were him, I will stop this. Won't it be boring to login to 95 accounts and leave feedback to different accounts? -x_x-

LOL

recently, at the beginning of the MSDN Key trade affair he sent me a PM saying he left me -ve trust feedback - over the following neutral feedback: Selling Keys from MSDN is not allowed as per Microsoft own TOS (see http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/selling-product-key-from-msdntechnet-and-or/cf40c328-67ce-49b6-bbb6-c28cda92c06e) and may also be a misdemeanor or felony in your jurisdiction accordingly to IP protection law and/or other laws. This can apply also to Keys from other software houses.

It was discussed earlier but there wasn't much use. As it isn't illegal because at most, it is punishable under Civil law.

Sadly, this wasn't the case in every jurisdiction. As an example, in Italy to IP protection laws qualify users of such Keys as felons due to them being punishable even when you do it not-for-profit, in order to make a "profit" which can also be seen in the simple expense savings due to the fact that you have had paid less money than for the purchase of the original key/software. Since Symantec self-admitted to being using an exploit to illegally obtaining MS Keys an Italian user could also held accountable to article 648 -a felony - of the Italian penal code (if the same user was unaware of the illicit origin of the Keys and simply failed to verify their lecit origin - doubtful - he could hope the be held accountable to article 712 - a misdemeanor - of the same penal code. Civil law punishments can always be applied even if court charges are brought.
However, if I remove a software from a system and resell the same key to another usere this would be OK both to IP, penal laws & to MS (or other software house). Obviously, multi-user key licenses have to be sold in bulk and cannot be sold individually.

Always do your own due diligence before engaging in a trade![/i] - then backtracking.

What Vod did was to get this to attention but it went in a different way as there was "illegal" and "stolen". One the contrary, Vod has a soft corner for Microsoft and that is one of the reason for leaving negative feedback and also one of the reason for anti-vod statements.

As I said above out there are many court jurisdictions. Vod called out MS since he was knowledgeable over it; but sw came from many software house and I am concerned of having to fight in a court not about a developer balance sheet.

[Grand_Voyageur]

95 accounts for trust bombing? Really?

Sorry! Admin. I don't remember much

But my purpose is to attack give the bastard is abusing trust here to apply to everyone

We are pulling more members to go to war with me

I don't care what your purpose is, it's still spam, and it accomplishes nothing. Use your time away from the forum to chill out.

He came back with an alt-account kinglong (uid:490032) to evade ban opening an almost identical thread to repeat same accusation against MZ after users asked him to provide verifiable evidence over the FuckIdolPlus scam case he was involved in. Also he still engaged in giving out fake trust feedbacks.

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