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 March 24, 2019, 11:26:09 PMLast edit: March 25, 2019, 09:48:57 PM by mprep

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Well, thank you. Since you can't answer my points, thanks for the lovely picture.

I'm curious about density vs. gravity. I have only heard about this recently. There appears to be a force that pulls objects down, and it is called "gravity". What is the issue? Is the non-existence of gravity a central tenet of FE?
Well the first issue is you have a force that pulls.

Why would you think that gravity is a force that pulls.

Consider the rope. If you tie one end of a rope to an object, you might be able to easily pull that object along. But it would be difficult if not impossible to push the object via the rope.

If gravity pulled, we would have figured it out easily, long ago. But since gravity is such a difficult thing to figure out, more than likely gravity pushes.

The existence of gravity, an unproven hypothesis is unavoidable and central to the globe model. On our flat earth objects fall or sink because they've displaced the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) and the atmosphere reacts by pushing them down. Up and down is defined by the electric field (see Coulomb's Law) between the dome (+ anode) and the ground (- cathode).

But if there were a dome, it would have been mentioned in the Bible (which you love to quote). But all that is mentioned is the canopy of water above the sky, and water below the sky. It's a canopy around globe earth.

If Coulomb's Law applied, we would have far more electrical reaction between various objects on earth than we do. We would be able to get free energy out of it.

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If denser substances get pushed down by the lighter substance moving up, then why do objects fall in a vacuum when there is no lighter substance moving up?

The lighter substance is aether. You can refer to the Sagnac Experiment for more information.

The aether isn't a lighter or heavier substance. You entirely misunderstand the aether. It holds denser and less dense materials, and propagates gravity waves and the energies that materials are made from. The aether, itself, is not affected by any scientific terms that are currently popular. Sagnac didn't understand the aether, either.

Gravity is an unproven theory needed to explain the motion of the lights in the sky if we foolishly assume they're heavy balls. There's no observable earthly phenomenon that requires gravity.

You still haven't figured out that there is a difference between gravity and gravity theory. Both gravity and gravity theory exist. Gravity is accurate. We don't know for sure if gravity theory is accurate. If it were accurate, it would be the law of gravity. Now don't go off spouting Newton or something.

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What is the force that causes objects to rise or fall according to their density?
It's kinetic force.

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If denser substances get pushed down by the lighter substance moving up, then why do objects fall in a vacuum when there is no lighter substance moving up?

The lighter substance is aether. You can refer to the Sagnac Experiment for more information.

Thanks for your answers, but there are some things that I don't understand.

If the aether has a kinetic force then it must have mass. Is that right? Is that possible?

Secondly, if the aether causes things to fall as it rises due to lower density, wouldn't the aether drift shown by Knodel's experiment cause things to move sideways?

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 March 25, 2019, 09:37:54 AMLast edit: March 26, 2019, 07:04:31 AM by notbatman

^^^ Yes aether has mass, this and the question of the rest mass of a photon are one and the same argument; it is non-zero. Zero and infinity are not tangible quantities, you can only approach them and have an equivalence due to their negligible or extreme value, your question is actually non-sequitur. Aether is the medium that propagates EM radiation such as light and radio; it has mass by definition and can be treated as a superfine gaseous substance.

On a large scale this [Knodel's observations of] aether drift [caused by the motion of the stars] has been shown to affect things like the direction of rotation in a hurricane. This and the so-called Coriolis force are one and the same. If the earth were rotating there would be a 24h cycle not the measured 23h 56m and, the effects would be devastating, the shear forces alone would tear the earth apart. It is quite unreasonable to assume the earth is in motion and it has been proven countless times to not move. See the M&M experiment for more information, the list of other corroborating experiments is quite impressive and leaves little to no doubt on the subject.

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 March 25, 2019, 01:24:06 PM

^^^ Not being able to find proof for FE is a good reason to post all other kinds of things.

Personally, I don't mind supporting the FE thread. Such support helps to show FE people how silly they are. And it warns the weak thinkers to not get mixed up in FE foolishness.

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 March 25, 2019, 01:44:48 PM

You know the earth if flat when Buzzfees (fake news) reports on the “conspiracy”
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 March 26, 2019, 03:45:51 AM

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^^^ Consider the second verse of the Bible: "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."

Then consider 1 John 3:8: "The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work."

God doesn't create stuff that is void and formless and empty. "But, He did the earth"... you might say. No, He didn't. Rather, the devil was sinful from the beginning. It was the devil, who was to be a magnificent tool  of God's, who corrupted the creation right at the beginning (see Ezekiel 28 for an understanding of the devil).

You need to catch up to von Braun. Since you don't even understand the above stuff, how in the world are you going to properly understand anything that is in the Bible? Let's hope that you understand Jesus salvation enough to be saved.

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 March 26, 2019, 03:37:40 PM

^^^ "By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire." -- Ezekiel 28:16

"Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee." -- Ezekiel 28:18

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 March 26, 2019, 08:39:12 PM

^^^ You know this stuff about yourself, yet you won't change. Why not?

One good thing. You finally found a picture that matches yourself better than that avatar of yours does.

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^^^ The reason why it was a "donk" rather than a "splat" was, you froze solid in outer space on the way down. Of course, flat Earth and flat Mars really have something else that is way bigger and way flatter beneath them, right?

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 March 27, 2019, 09:00:57 PM

That's a ridiculous meme. You can't jump of the edge of the pancake earth, ffs.
Why, its surrounded by a circle of huge antarctic glaciers and is guarded by
an army of secret government mercenaries who will shoot you on sight if you try to get too close.
Just ask Batty or his sockpuppet pal Xempy, they know all about these evil government conspiracy thingies...

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That's a ridiculous meme. You can't jump of the edge of the pancake earth, ffs.
Why, its surrounded by a circle of huge antarctic glaciers and is guarded by
an army of secret government mercenaries who will shoot you on sight if you try to get too close.
Just ask Batty or his sockpuppet pal Xempy, they know all about these evil government conspiracy thingies...

It's funny because he keeps mentioning these huge things like a big dome above our heads or insane projectors that are projecting the sun and other shit all the time and yet no one has seen them, ever, no pictures, videos, nothing, there is always some sort of excuse as of why not.
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 March 28, 2019, 08:29:04 AM

^^^ I've posted images that indicate there's a dome, you're a liar if you claim I haven't. In fact this is at least the second time you've made this accusation you fucking shill. Also it's better to have images that only provide limited evidence of the dome than showing provably fraudulent photographs of a globe earth.

You want to claim the lights in the sky are giant heavy balls billions and billions and billions of miles away, million mile wide thermonuclear bombs that never stop exploding with no proof what-so-ever. You're sharp as a bag full of wet mice if you believe any of that garbage, the Sun and the Moon and the stars are small close projected lights.

Watch the Sun travel across the sky, you're an idiot and a fool if you think it's not moving.

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^^^ I've posted images that indicate there's a dome, you're a liar if you claim I haven't. In fact this is at least the second time you've made this accusation you fucking shill. Also it's better to have images that only provide limited evidence of the dome than showing provably fraudulent photographs of a globe earth.

You want to claim the lights in the sky are giant heavy balls billions and billions and billions of miles away, million mile wide thermonuclear bombs that never stop exploding with no proof what-so-ever. You're sharp as a bag full of wet mice if you believe any of that garbage, the Sun and the Moon and the stars are small close projected lights.

Watch the Sun travel across the sky, you're an idiot and a fool if you think it's not moving.

''images that indicate'' Because it's really hard to have direct evidence that there is a huge fucking giant dome above our heads? What about the projectors mate, what's up with that, where the hell are they? Again, nothing huh? It's always like that with you, claiming crazy shit but 0 evidence and it should be really easy to provide evidence of a huge giant dome or huge projectors or a huge wall of ice that covers the entire earth and yet, nothing, 0 photos or videos even in 2019, crazy huh?
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 March 28, 2019, 10:01:31 AM

When's the next Round Earth Shill Convention?

I'd like to go as I have a speech prepared on improving Antarctic Border Wall security.

Also, people like notbatman are coming closer to uncovering the truth about our great hoax... we need to find out where he lives and put more fluoride in his water supply, maybe get a few chemtrail deliveries going...

Really, on April 1st (what a coincidence) this thread will be 4 years old, and I just want to congratulate notbatman for what a fine trolljob he's done since then. Really, its spectacular, like probably one of the strongest commitments to any one trollery I've ever seen.

BTW batty, how's the shipment of those black arrow miners coming along?

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 March 28, 2019, 10:54:46 AMLast edit: March 29, 2019, 06:53:52 AM by notbatman

^^^ Still waiting on delivery.

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 March 29, 2019, 05:06:33 PM

^^^ I've posted images that indicate there's a d...<snip..  blah blah blah ~ load of the usual trolling bollocks~ blabbity blah blah blah...>

Hey dude! Your April Fools 4th anniversary of the longest running nonsense troll thread on Bitcointalk is approaching!
What's say you, me and xempy celebrate and toast to the frisbee earth with an onyx metallic dome complete with a star and sun projector do-hicky
on the firmament, or some such thing....all created by the supernatural invisible, almighty sky fairy.

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^^^ I've posted images that indicate there's a d...<snip..  blah blah blah ~ load of the usual trolling bollocks~ blabbity blah blah blah...>

Hey dude! Your April Fools 4th anniversary of the longest running nonsense troll thread on Bitcointalk is approaching!
What's say you, me and xempy celebrate and toast to the frisbee earth with an onyx metallic dome complete with a star and sun projector do-hicky
on the firmament, or some such thing....all created by the supernatural invisible, almighty sky fairy.

I will piss myself if on April 1st notbatman comes out and says the whole thing was really a troll and closed the thread.
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 March 30, 2019, 06:42:23 AM

^^^ Consider the implications of the classical pre-copernican model being the correct one. This means you're living on an animated ball and your entire existence is a Saturday morning cartoon show.

There's a mountain of empirical evidence that the surface of the Earth is a circular (round) and stationary plain. The M&M experiment is just one example of such empirical evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt, that the Earth does not move.

You're a joke and fool.
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