Flat Earth

[notbatman]

^^^ The plot thickens...

The moon is still an object, a holographic one with a location, it has length, width and height. The atmospheric plane that contains the plasma used to display the moon is a gaseous fluid, a liquid crystal.

Why did god make a holographic moon?

"And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also." -- Genesis 1:16, KJV

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[ariennem]

How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?

https://i.imgur.com/O8IpMmi.jpg

Currently, the followers of the theory of the flat Earth are more and more numerous

[ðºÞæ]

Last nite i had some wild dream with a space/sky centered world, not helio or geo centered.
A stationary "cylinder" with the sun completing one rotation a day and oscillate once a year between Tropic of Capricorn / Cancer.
Moon finishes the rotation in a lunar circle (28 days) and is illuminated from the sun, same as stars.
When sun a furthermost south 24h day light at south pole station, when all the way north at tropic of cancer no sun light at south pole as outside of visible range and at pass-over it is day light when nearest of station and nite when furthest away (out of visible range).
South to North is totally flat and East to West some curve, the more latitudinal the flatter.  "Dome" straight above wherever you are.
Sun rise is about greenland, mid day is about in middle east and sunset, eastern Australia.
First pic x axis is tilted to -90° and y turned 160°, second without (space, sun, moon)  x -70° and y the same.
 
Past north or south, no idea map missing.
Time to open another bottle of red now, cheers.

Edit:
Another view, this North to South noon about Nepal
https://ibb.co/DYmV3D4

[HI-TEC99]

^^^ The plot thickens...

The moon is still an object, a holographic one with a location, it has length, width and height. The atmospheric plane that contains the plasma used to display the moon is a gaseous fluid, a liquid crystal.

I'll try again.

The ladder is small, but the moon is far away.



The horse is small, but the cows are far away.



The banana is small, but the people are far away.



The man is small, but the woman is far away.



The man is small, but the other man is far away.



The hand is small, but the balloon is far away.

[notbatman]

^ Do you actually have some kind of point?

The moon is a holographic object with an angular size of 32 minutes and 1 minute = 1 nautical mile.



If you want to describe perspective, why not do it correctly?

[BADecker]

^ Do you actually have some kind of point?

The moon is a holographic object with an angular size of 32 minutes and 1 minute = 1 nautical mile.



If you want to describe perspective, why not do it correctly?

^^^ That's not correctly. To do it correctly, place the center of your eye at the surface of the road, and look along the road.

Why do it this way? Because you can never get an eye at the same level as another eye in your scenario. Nor a camera. They are always off in height at least a few molecules.

Let me draw the flat earth for you with the eye at road level. It looks the same as globe earth.


There it is, without the telephone poles.

[HI-TEC99]

^ Do you actually have some kind of point?

The moon is a holographic object with an angular size of 32 minutes and 1 minute = 1 nautical mile.



If you want to describe perspective, why not do it correctly?

If you want to get technical some eminent theoretical physicists say the whole universe might be a two-dimensional surface, like a hologram. How can you describe 3D perspective correctly in a 2D universe? Flat universe thread anyone?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/information-in-the-holographic-univ/

...our universe, which we perceive to have three spatial dimensions, might instead be written on a two-dimensional surface, like a hologram. Our everyday perceptions of the world as three-dimensional would then be either a profound illusion or merely one of two alternative ways of viewing reality.  A grain of sand may not encompass our world, but a flat screen might.

https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2017/01/holographic-universe.page

Theoretical physicists and astrophysicists, investigating irregularities in the cosmic microwave background (the ‘afterglow’ of the Big Bang), have found there is substantial evidence supporting a holographic explanation of the universe – in fact, as much as there is for the traditional explanation of these irregularities using the theory of cosmic inflation.

The researchers, from the University of Southampton (UK), University of Waterloo (Canada), Perimeter Institute (Canada), INFN, Lecce (Italy) and the University of Salento (Italy), have published findings in the journal Physical Review Letters.

A holographic universe, an idea first suggested in the 1990s, is one where all the information, which makes up our 3D ‘reality’ (plus time) is contained in a 2D surface on its boundaries.

Scientists have been working for decades to combine Einstein’s theory of gravity and quantum theory. Some believe the concept of a holographic universe has the potential to reconcile the two.

Your camera is shit.

[Paashaas]

@Paashaas that Antarctic cruse story is literal fake news.

I am extremely disappointed. Don't tell me you're not even a member of the Flat-Earth Society...

For a Flat-Earther like you Notbatman it should be a liability isn't it?

[hornetsnest]

To the moon!

[notbatman]

The illustration shows how objects converge in the distance with an elevated single point perspective. The point in the centre is the vanishing point and the red line is your horizon line.

What's going on here is that the eye has a resolution limit, a maximum distance it can resolve objects. As an object moves away it gets optically compressed; smaller with distance. An object, while it gets compressed also moves towards the centre; to the vanishing point.

When the object reaches the horizon it has reached the vanishing point and can no longer be resolved; it's too small to see. The horizon is everything past the eye's resolution limit, everything is compressed into a line.

This is where it gets interesting because, if you know the resolution limit of the eye which is based on the aperture size and wavelength of light entering the eye and, you know the elevation of the eye above ground you can calculate the distance to the horizon.

This is the point where you bust out the sextant and start measuring the moon (32') against the horizon. 1 minute = 1 nautical mile.



The Who - I Can See For Miles -- https://youtu.be/Q0iqg2UanEc

[BADecker]

The Who - I Can See For Miles -- https://youtu.be/Q0iqg2UanEc

The Who meant, "I Can See 4 Miles."     

[guigui371]

Blablabla , the eye has a limitation but my P1000 has not blablabla

Well, you are debunking your points yourself.
So we can't trust our eyes because they have an optical limitation.
But we should trust the P1000 (even though multiple tests/comparison have shown that this is not a great optics) !

As I said, why no flat earther go on top of the empire state building with very powerfull telescope and try to spot the Eiffel tower.
It could be possible in a flat earth world.

[notbatman]

^^^ The atmosphere is a limiting factor, use your fucking brain.

A super-zoom camera (P900/P1000) has a different resolution limit than the human eye, so much so that it can debunk with a very wide margin of error the claim that the earth curves just beyond the human eye's resolution limit (~3 miles @ 6').

The resolution limit is based on physical aperture size.

[guigui371]

^^^
Why would the atmosphere be a limiting factor ?
Are you telling me that the "plasma moon" or the "plasma sun"  attached to your dome are closer than 6000 km ?

If we can see the sun with our bare eyes, why can't we see the eifel tower from NYC using a very very expensive lens (one that has a bigger resolution than the eye).

Logic, no ? oh well, unless the earth is a globe and you can't see behind the curve.  QED

[notbatman]

"...Why would the atmosphere be a limiting factor ?..."
...
"...If we can see the sun with our bare eyes, why can't we see the eifel tower from NYC.."

Seriously?

The atmosphere gets hazy at sea level, you can hardly see mountains in the distance. Looking up, the atmosphere thins out so you can see all the celestial objects.

Here's a picture look at the haze, you can't see through that shit beyond a few hundred miles:

"... Are you telling me that the "plasma moon" or the "plasma sun"  attached to your dome are closer than 6000 km ?..."

Regarding the moon it's a sonoluminescent plasma disc on the surface of an upper atmospheric plane, the image you see is a holographic reflection of this illuminated disc, it reflects off of the dome's concave mirrored surface.

The moon's projected disc when measured is 32 minutes (32 nautical miles). Using plane trigonometry its distance is calculated to be about ~3,100 nautical miles. This calculation is the distance to the hologram, the plasma disc is a somewhat closer being below the concave mirror.

[sirazimuth]

Regarding the moon it's a sonoluminescent plasma disc on the surface of an upper atmospheric plane, the image you see is a holographic reflection of this illuminated disc, it reflects off of the dome's concave mirrored surface.

....yeah, and brass monkeys fly outta my arse.

Yo dude, I gotta bridge I wanna sell ya.....

[notbatman]

^^^ Dude, you literally believe your ancestors were mutants who flew out of a monkey's ass.





The earth is an engineered structure with electric lighting.

[nebtheweb]

Dude, you literally believe your ancestors were mutants who flew out of a monkeys ass.

No, yours were.

The earth is an engineered structure with electric lighting.

The earth is just one of many planets throughout the universe that came about naturally at different times. Nobody engineered it, especially not some old mammalian male entity dressed in first-century clothes from the middle east. We are not the measure of all things and the universe was NOT made for us. https://youtu.be/cIANk7zQ05w?t=7

[alexkamillakroy]

I was coming for a Terry Pratchett's books discussion...

[sirazimuth]

^^^ Dude, you literally believe your ancestors were mutants who flew out of a monkeys ass.
....

dfak??