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April 03, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
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April 03, 2015, 01:48:43 PM
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dear all,


I need my BTC for traders in https://www.poloniex.com
with 0.5 refund of loan 1btc for 15 days

1btc = 1,5 (15 days)

deposit 14cpbKEYkQM9qirapciUsZUVBGiZpERCo1

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What collateral can you offer? If you don't offer any you'll just get negative trust.

Why are you asking for 2 loans at the same time?
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April 03, 2015, 01:52:19 PM
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No one would lend you a bitcoin if you didn't provide any valid collateral.
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April 03, 2015, 01:52:46 PM
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What collateral can you offer? If you don't offer any you'll just get negative trust.


What kind of guarantee for data2 should I send my id
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April 03, 2015, 01:54:48 PM
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What collateral can you offer? If you don't offer any you'll just get negative trust.


What kind of guarantee for data2 should I send my id

No of course no, your ID can't be sold to recover the loss when you default your loan   Roll Eyes
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April 03, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
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I am a trader in the forex broker but only championship I just follow and and always champion to 9 and this my id https://www.cashbackforex.com/en-us/account.aspx?sid=41872
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April 03, 2015, 01:56:22 PM
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dear all,


I need my BTC for traders in https://www.poloniex.com
with 0.5 refund of loan 1btc for 15 days

1btc = 1,5 (15 days)

deposit 14cpbKEYkQM9qirapciUsZUVBGiZpERCo1

thank you

Your account's reputation doesnt worth a bitcoin. You should provide a valid collateral if you want to get this loan

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April 03, 2015, 01:58:12 PM
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dear all,


I need my BTC for traders in https://www.poloniex.com
with 0.5 refund of loan 1btc for 15 days

1btc = 1,5 (15 days)

deposit 14cpbKEYkQM9qirapciUsZUVBGiZpERCo1

thank you

Your account's reputation doesnt worth a bitcoin. You should provide a valid collateral if you want to get this loan

What kind of guarantee, please explain
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I am a trader in the forex broker but only championship I just follow and and always champion to 9 and this my id https://www.cashbackforex.com/en-us/account.aspx?sid=41872
you don't have any reputation here. You are going to have to put up some collateral if you want any chance of getting this loan. If you are an altcoin trader then you can put up some of whatever altcoin you currently hold for the lender (or escrow on behalf of the lender) that will guarantee the loan will be repaid.
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you don't have any reputation here. You are going to have to put up some collateral if you want any chance of getting this loan. If you are an altcoin trader then you can put up some of whatever altcoin you currently hold for the lender (or escrow on behalf of the lender) that will guarantee the loan will be repaid.

sorry I do not understand, could be given instructions as I would my bitcoin tradingkan and I can gain 100% of 1btc and 50% for the benefit of investors and 50% to a trader for 15 days
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April 03, 2015, 02:05:56 PM
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you don't have any reputation here. You are going to have to put up some collateral if you want any chance of getting this loan. If you are an altcoin trader then you can put up some of whatever altcoin you currently hold for the lender (or escrow on behalf of the lender) that will guarantee the loan will be repaid.

sorry I do not understand, could be given instructions as I would my bitcoin tradingkan and I can gain 100% of 1btc and 50% for the benefit of investors and 50% to a trader for 15 days
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why wouldn't the lender just buy that altcoin themselves and get all the benefit of any price appreciation? You need to provide collateral that is above the value of the amount of the loan to protect the lender from a prove decline of the collateral.
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edit: dunno how I quoted that

a collateral is something the lender can easily sell for 120% of the amount loaned in case you defaulted.

so no ID. it's worthless because you and the loaner might be half a world apart. going to where you live is going to cost much more than 1 btc
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why wouldn't the lender just buy that altcoin themselves and get all the benefit of any price appreciation? You need to provide collateral that is above the value of the amount of the loan to protect the lender from a prove decline of the collateral.

like what it is, I am here looking for that trust, and such collateral could not, because my country in Asia, I am looking for investors bitcoin not find a loan that is no guarantee and I think bitcoin trading at no risk of losing  Roll Eyes
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why wouldn't the lender just buy that altcoin themselves and get all the benefit of any price appreciation? You need to provide collateral that is above the value of the amount of the loan to protect the lender from a prove decline of the collateral.

like what it is, I am here looking for that trust, and such collateral could not, because my country in Asia, I am looking for investors bitcoin not find a loan that is no guarantee and I think bitcoin trading at no risk of losing  Roll Eyes
your trust/reputation is not worth 1 btc. I don't think anyone is going to give you a loan and if they do they will likely never see their money again.
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like what it is, I am here looking for that trust, and such collateral could not, because my country in Asia, I am looking for investors bitcoin not find a loan that is no guarantee and I think bitcoin trading at no risk of losing  Roll Eyes
your trust/reputation is not worth 1 btc. I don't think anyone is going to give you a loan and if they do they will likely never see their money again.
I have no intention of deceiving, you mean I will run away with 1btc, if you intend to deceive me make Ponzi domain alone  Grin
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I have no intention of deceiving, you mean I will run away with 1btc, if you intend to deceive me make Ponzi domain alone  Grin

doesn't make a difference. you can still lose them on a bad trades.
the only way you can get a 1btc loan without a collateral here is to have a very good reputation.
if you don't have them then go to sites like btcjam or any other lending sites that only needs your personal information
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doesn't make a difference. you can still lose them on a bad trades.
the only way you can get a 1btc loan without a collateral here is to have a very good reputation.
if you don't have them then go to sites like btcjam or any other lending sites that only needs your personal information

I've tried to register there (btcjam) but they rejected the application because the reason I do not have a credit card, hopefully there are trusting me to bail myself possessed forex account and verification level 2 in instanforex.com but yet I use because it does not like me trading there, my bitcoin trading no risk, unlike forex currency etc,
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April 04, 2015, 06:27:10 AM
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your trust/reputation is not worth 1 btc. I don't think anyone is going to give you a loan and if they do they will likely never see their money again.


it seems you want to ruin my reputation by giving a bad reputation, your date if I have at my house you


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your trust/reputation is not worth 1 btc. I don't think anyone is going to give you a loan and if they do they will likely never see their money again.


it seems you want to ruin my reputation by giving a bad reputation, your date if I have at my house you




he gave you negative trust because you are asking a $250 loan without collateral over and over again, so he put a negative trust for people to avoid dealing with you coz it looks like you will run with the coins when you got your loan

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your trust/reputation is not worth 1 btc. I don't think anyone is going to give you a loan and if they do they will likely never see their money again.


it seems you want to ruin my reputation by giving a bad reputation, your date if I have at my house you




he gave you negative trust because you are asking a $250 loan without collateral over and over again, so he put a negative trust for people to avoid dealing with you coz it looks like you will run with the coins when you got your loan

not like it, go around giving a bad reputation to the people, no evidence has been casually, if I intend to deceive why I opened this thread, if I want to cheat I made a ponzi domain alone
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your trust/reputation is not worth 1 btc. I don't think anyone is going to give you a loan and if they do they will likely never see their money again.


it seems you want to ruin my reputation by giving a bad reputation, your date if I have at my house you




he gave you negative trust because you are asking a $250 loan without collateral over and over again, so he put a negative trust for people to avoid dealing with you coz it looks like you will run with the coins when you got your loan

not like it, go around giving a bad reputation to the people, no evidence has been casually, if I intend to deceive why I opened this thread, if I want to cheat I made a ponzi domain alone

that it just a warning for people who you will be dealing at with in the future. you did the wrong thing asking for 1BTC loan without collateral almost all over the forum man so it looks like you "will" scam any amount that will be loaned to you

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well if it is considered fraud for my id I receive when you feel happy, and how else to 1-50 BTC you follow what they proceed
and given a bad reputation also, why so should all id given a bad reputation if so why just me
please clarify
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April 04, 2015, 07:54:12 AM
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your trust/reputation is not worth 1 btc. I don't think anyone is going to give you a loan and if they do they will likely never see their money again.


it seems you want to ruin my reputation by giving a bad reputation, your date if I have at my house you

IMO it seems you missed the meaning of no collateral, no loan rule: in order to get a loan you must give collateral that is equal, or preferably higher to the amount you are being loaned. Also, the sticky point out that collateral also needs to be something that can easily be sold like Altcoins or precious metals, but things that can be sent electronically are preferred.
What is considered collateral?

Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC).  Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.  Try localbitcoins.com

What is not considered collateral?

- Items not in hand.  Don't trust a user that promises to give you something *when* they default!  Tracking numbers only show something has been mailed - it could be an empty box.
- Future income.  You can prove you'll make xx coins in the next few days, but nothing forces you to send those coins to pay your debt.
- Identification.  So what if they can prove who they are.  Are you going to spend more money and time taking them to court on untested legal grounds?  You'll probably just walk away, like everyone does.  ID is useless.
- Games codes or similar.  To verify the collateral you need to use the code, which destroys the collateral.  Consider this a purchase, not a loan.  (Post in Digital Goods instead)
- Most new alt-coins or alt-coins that trade for satoshis are not good collateral as they can become worthless overnight.
- Paypal should never be used - they are anti-bitcoin and will rule against you 100% of the time.  Escrow can't even help, as paypal charge backs can come over 6 months later!
- Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account)
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People here simply try to explain you that without providing a valid collateral of enough value you have almost no chance to get a loan here. Also, as the sticky point out failing to obey the no collateral, no loan rule without enough community reputation & trade history assure you a fair quote of -ve trust feedback due to you behaving like a scammer (i'm not saying you're one, yet).
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If you completely ignore this sticky and make a loan request with no collateral, without having massive trust on the forum, the chances of you getting negative trusted feedback and therefore having a Trade with Extreme Caution tag is almost 100%.
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Also, your abusing of trust feedbacks is not helping you in your loan search because, while you have the right to give Quickseller a -ve trust feedback if you think he is a scammer, you have to substantiate it with a reference link and you're not allowed to spam multiple feedback just to game the trust score algorithm.



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April 04, 2015, 08:01:14 AM
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try to look at my post where I make spam
I made a thread that has existed supplied by admin, and I want to ask questions to the thread that provide loans if the spam, I am entitled to ask this forum
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Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

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Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

yeah right I'm running out of time here, because it gives a bad reputation to my id, and I was very upset once you try to read the first page of my post one part post, I described with bold assurance that when they criticize
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Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

+1.

Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

yeah right I'm running out of time here, because it gives a bad reputation to my id, and I was very upset once you try to read the first page of my post one part post, I described with bold assurance that when they criticize

IMHO, you are handling the whole issue in the wrong way. As I said before, not following the no collater, no loan rule make you look like a scammer. Your repeated refusal to provide a valid collateral & spamming multiple loan requests around the forum only reinforced EcuaMobi and Quickseller  convincement of you being a scammer; so, they both have valid reason to give you a substantiated (with reference link), valid, -ve trust feedback. Also your unsubstantiated spamming of -ve trust feedback against Quickseller only make you look more scammy.
Maybe, You've made the mistake of not reading the sticky before asking posting your first loan request and making multiple loan request but if you really have good faith you could still recover from it.
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Try following this:
1. Calm down;
2. Apologize to Quickseller (better in public, maybe in the thread you started over the issue);
3. Be quiet for a while;
4. Learn forum rules and start being a constructive contributing member of the forum;
5. At some point in the future politely ask to EcuaMobi and Quickseller to remove or turn neutral their trust feedback.
If you cannot provide a valid collateral, you may still ask into lending platforms like btcjam or bitbond. IF there you cannot find lenders, you may revert earning BTC. e.g. freelancing for BTC or enrolling in a signature ad campaign.

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Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

+1.

Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

yeah right I'm running out of time here, because it gives a bad reputation to my id, and I was very upset once you try to read the first page of my post one part post, I described with bold assurance that when they criticize

IMHO, you are handling the whole issue in the wrong way. As I said before, not following the no collater, no loan rule make you look like a scammer. Your repeated refusal to provide a valid collateral & spamming multiple loan requests around the forum only reinforced EcuaMobi and Quickseller  convincement of you being a scammer; so, they both have valid reason to give you a substantiated (with reference link), valid, -ve trust feedback. Also your unsubstantiated spamming of -ve trust feedback against Quickseller only make you look more scammy.
Maybe, You've made the mistake of not reading the sticky before asking posting your first loan request and making multiple loan request but if you really have good faith you could still recover from it.
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Try following this:
1. Calm down;
2. Apologize to Quickseller (better in public, maybe in the thread you started over the issue);
3. Be quiet for a while;
4. Learn forum rules and start being a constructive contributing member of the forum;
5. At some point in the future politely ask to EcuaMobi and Quickseller to remove or turn neutral their trust feedback.
If you cannot provide a valid collateral, you may still ask into lending platforms like btcjam or bitbond. IF there you cannot find lenders, you may revert earning BTC. e.g. freelancing for BTC or enrolling in a signature ad campaign.

sorry why do I have to apologize for giving a bad reputation to my id, and that I have explained from yesterday evening that the search for a loan or investor for 1btc I did not because it is no guarantee that I look for a loan of 0.05 only, ssilahkan seen in the post to the first part and then I use bold tek so clear, and why I have given id I see there are a lot of really,
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The edits yesterday, and pleas check with bold writing


dear all,


I need my BTC for traders in https://www.poloniex.com
with 0.5 refund of loan 1btc for 15 days

1btc = 1,5 (15 days)
0.05 = 0.055 (7 days)

update

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sorry if there are mistakes of my words, of these loans turned out to be using the guarantee, for that I do not have lol
hopefully there who believe in me, because I am a trader and broker verifkasi but there are some differences with bitcoin trading  Grin


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Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

+1.

Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

yeah right I'm running out of time here, because it gives a bad reputation to my id, and I was very upset once you try to read the first page of my post one part post, I described with bold assurance that when they criticize

IMHO, you are handling the whole issue in the wrong way. As I said before, not following the no collater, no loan rule make you look like a scammer. Your repeated refusal to provide a valid collateral & spamming multiple loan requests around the forum only reinforced EcuaMobi and Quickseller  convincement of you being a scammer; so, they both have valid reason to give you a substantiated (with reference link), valid, -ve trust feedback. Also your unsubstantiated spamming of -ve trust feedback against Quickseller only make you look more scammy.
Maybe, You've made the mistake of not reading the sticky before asking posting your first loan request and making multiple loan request but if you really have good faith you could still recover from it.
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Try following this:
1. Calm down;
2. Apologize to Quickseller (better in public, maybe in the thread you started over the issue);
3. Be quiet for a while;
4. Learn forum rules and start being a constructive contributing member of the forum;
5. At some point in the future politely ask to EcuaMobi and Quickseller to remove or turn neutral their trust feedback.
If you cannot provide a valid collateral, you may still ask into lending platforms like btcjam or bitbond. IF there you cannot find lenders, you may revert earning BTC. e.g. freelancing for BTC or enrolling in a signature ad campaign.

sorry why do I have to apologize for giving a bad reputation to my id, and that I have explained from yesterday evening that the search for a loan or investor for 1btc I did not because it is no guarantee that I look for a loan of 0.05 only, ssilahkan seen in the post to the first part and then I use bold tek so clear, and why I have given id I see there are a lot of really,

IMHO, You have to apologize for your abuse of trust feedbacks against him. In bitcointalk.org forum is common pratice to red flag new accounts asking for loans without a valid collateral to deter and/or flag scammers, so you are the one on the wrong side not him. Asking for multiple loans without a valid collateral because you claim ot having one is not a valid excuse to proliferate threads in lending boards.
If you had trouble finding a valid collateral to offer, You could try/have tried to apply to a lender who may not require you to give collateral, like e.g.  Muhammed Zakir (thread here).
However, if you still fail to find a willing lender, You should really consider trying to earn the money you need instead of wasting time asking for a loan you may never have granted. Try look at Mitchell's Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns, your rank would allow you to choose within a few nice paying campaigns.


The edits yesterday, and pleas check with bold writing


dear all,


I need my BTC for traders in https://www.poloniex.com
with 0.5 refund of loan 1btc for 15 days

1btc = 1,5 (15 days)
0.05 = 0.055 (7 days)

update

deposit 14cpbKEYkQM9qirapciUsZUVBGiZpERCo1

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sorry if there are mistakes of my words, of these loans turned out to be using the guarantee, for that I do not have lol
hopefully there who believe in me, because I am a trader and broker verifkasi but there are some differences with bitcoin trading  Grin


my localbitcoins.com

thank you

Maybe it's fault of your broken english; but, now you seems to me as looking for donations instead of loans. As a side note, why are not you trying to search a localbitcoins local lender who is willing to receive a phisical object as valid collateral?

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April 04, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
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sorry, I've been asked on the first page, what assurance can I do it,
and I gave the answer,, if not like my id please do not bother me, I see a lot of the other threads asking for a loan, because I am here not want to cheat,
I closed my thread used to ask for a loan or seeking investors, if all objections, please in another thread and a lot of them do not critique my id only



forgive me if this thread so detraction for me
please check all the threads in the forum a lot of these loans and their critics
my thread closed

thank you
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April 04, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
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Please don't waste your time guys, OP don't even understand what you have been talking about.

yeah right I'm running out of time here, because it gives a bad reputation to my id, and I was very upset once you try to read the first page of my post one part post, I described with bold assurance that when they criticize
Go to the bank and ask them for a loan, don't provide them collateral, and tell them that you have no guarantees of paying them back.  See how well that works out for you. Roll Eyes
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April 04, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
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The op has asked for loans so many times on so many posts and to different people, why you wasting your time talking to him it's an obvious scam and nobody will fall to him anyways lol
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April 04, 2015, 02:30:14 PM
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sorry, I've been asked on the first page, what assurance can I do it,
and I gave the answer,, if not like my id please do not bother me, I see a lot of the other threads asking for a loan, because I am here not want to cheat,
I closed my thread used to ask for a loan or seeking investors, if all objections, please in another thread and a lot of them do not critique my id only



forgive me if this thread so detraction for me
please check all the threads in the forum a lot of these loans and their critics
my thread closed

thank you

yes a lot of people ask for loans here.  But you will notice they usually don't get them unless they are trusted or are providing collateral.  Also the size of the loan is a factor.  It is hard get even 0.01 BTC, so there is basically no way for you to get 1 BTC. 

The point is, you are not being treated unfairly, that's just how it goes around here.

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