PayPal helping scammers to get away and get going

[oksana28]

I am really fucked up with PayPal , does any serious men use it here or just scammers go with it?
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so what happened??

it was January i got an email from prince of Morocco saying that their local authorities are pressurizing them give up the Royalty and blah..blah..
he told me that he is in quick need of money and he want BTC Worth 123$ , i as a old PayPal user knew that PayPal = Chargeback.
So i told him that i really cant help you as paypal is reversible , but he told me that he will send me paypal first , then i told it is of no use even though chargeback can happen , but he told me that i dont need to send him money until i withdraw my paypal dollars , then i thought it is a good idea.
so he send me 123$ for 0.35BTC , i waited 2 days and i successfully withdrew the amount to my Bank , and after 2 days i sent him BTC , as soon as i sent him BTC , there went a chargeback , i laughed and thought that i dont need to worry about it but when i saw my account the it was with negative balance , i yelled WTF! , i wrote to customer care and even talked to them , they said that it was not usual chargeback but it was case of unauthorised access and they could not do anything , i told them that they should atleast gave me time to respond before closing the case , but all went in vain. so i yelled at them that they support scammers and i am not gonna use PayPal anymore.

so now its is August , yesterday when i thought that i will clear my -ve balance as i again wanted to use Paypal , then i was unable to log in to my account, I talked to support and they said it was more that 3 months since negative balance so they closed my account?


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so my question is:
what if i never pay the negative balance , infact it is not my fault? will i have to face legal action against them?will they sent their legal team for me ?

what should you had done or will do when you are under my condition at the present scenarion?

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[BiTiB.eu]

Oksana 28,

Firts is better to move this on scam accusation. Then i would say you: why you have reply to an email from "Prince of Morocco"? Have you ever know him? This is the classic spamming\pishing mail!

About your paypal neg. Balance, i had a similar issue 2 years* ago and i never cover neg. Balance: Nothing happen  !

*I sold 2 trading book on ebay and buyer said that this book wasn't shipped to him and that he never make the order from his ebay account. I probe that book went shipped to Nigeria (yes i was little stupid) but paypal let my neg balance   . At end i lost my book an have 50 euro neg balance, that i would'nt repay!

[hilariousandco]

it was January i got an email from prince of Morocco saying that their local authorities are pressurizing them give up the Royalty and blah..blah.

Pmsl. Not sure whether you're trolling or not.

what if i never pay the negative balance , infact it is not my fault? will i have to face legal action against them?will they sent their legal team for me ?

Likely the same thing banks do when you owe them money: send their boys for you. Do they have your address and real name? They'll probably send you letters first telling you you owe them money. Then they'll start threatening you with legal action. Whether they'll ever take you to court for such a small amount is the issue though. Maybe they'll just keep sending you letters and hope you're scared enough to pay but if you ignore them that's likely all that will ever happen but this isn't proper legal advice. Do some research on what happens in similar cases. I'm sure you can find a lot of stuff on google.

[BiTiB.eu]

it was January i got an email from prince of Morocco saying that their local authorities are pressurizing them give up the Royalty and blah..blah.

Pmsl. Not sure whether you're trolling or not.

what if i never pay the negative balance , infact it is not my fault? will i have to face legal action against them?will they sent their legal team for me ?

Likely the same thing banks do when you owe them money: send their boys for you. Do they have your address and real name? They'll probably send you letters first telling you you owe them money. Then they'll start threatening you with legal action. Whether they'll ever take you to court for such a small amount is the issue though. Maybe they'll just keep sending you letters and hope you're scared enough to pay but if you ignore them that's likely all that will ever happen but this isn't proper legal advice. Do some research on what happens in similar cases. I'm sure you can find a lot of stuff on google.

All depend by amount due and by country. As i said i have 50 € neg balance from 2 years and nothing happens. (only have paypal account freeze  )

[hilariousandco]

As i said i have 50 € neg balance from 2 years and nothing happens. (only have paypal account freeze  )

Did you have your full name and address on there? I'm guessing you didn't? If they have those details something tells me they won't just accept the losses if they can help it.

[oksana28]

As i said i have 50 € neg balance from 2 years and nothing happens. (only have paypal account freeze  )

Did you have your full name and address on there? I'm guessing you didn't? If they have those details something tells me they won't just accept the losses if they can help it.

they have all my details , like bank account and UID.

[Jannn]

it was January i got an email from prince of Morocco

I know that guy! Also a priest and his son studies in England!

Why blame Paypal? Blame the stolen creditcard he used too?

[BiTiB.eu]

As i said i have 50 € neg balance from 2 years and nothing happens. (only have paypal account freeze   )

Did you have your full name and address on there? I'm guessing you didn't? If they have those details something tells me they won't just accept the losses if they can help it.

Yes, i'm fully verified and have made a lot of transaction in past (moved over 45.000 euro from 2010 to 2012  because i used paypal for deposit and withdraw from FxPro). They wrote me some letters, but i've always replied that i would'nt pay because i was scammed too  

[Zoomer]

As i said i have 50 € neg balance from 2 years and nothing happens. (only have paypal account freeze  )

Did you have your full name and address on there? I'm guessing you didn't? If they have those details something tells me they won't just accept the losses if they can help it.

Even if paypal have your bank on file and your credit card they will not take the money (the negative balance) from your bank or credit card because they simply can not do this it would be considered as theft

[pedrog]

3+ years reading these stories and people still fall for this...

Hope you've learned your lesson.

[Backside walkaround]

Pretty sure he's trolling for a laugh.  I think the average user here is a bit too sophisticated to fall for an old scam like this.   I don't know anything about OP but I doubt any of this is true.

PayPal will probably sell your debt after you don't pay in a few months.  That's what most corporations do, and then you have to deal with devt collectors.   And you won't have a PayPal account to boot.

[suchmoon]

what should you had done or will do when you are under my condition at the present scenarion?

I deal only with Nigerian royalty. Never had an issue, they don't use PayPal, just straight up wire transfers. My $10 million is coming next week, yay.

[raj1]

sorry for your loss but real traders are like ghost nowdays if by chance any ghost just poped up in front of you and says i am the real trader then you will just run away frim him screaming

[chromegabberdome]

record the screen with a screen video recorder so you got HD screenshots of verification of the tx details.
Sell you paypal account then turn around and tell paypal i dont know much about computers but i never accessed this account or paypal or linked my bank accounts. seems the Know Your Customer policy is used to access all your other accounts if you your stoopid enough to upload verification documents that are not needed. just say no. i dont need to to this and you dont need this document for me to conduct business here. Bitcoin is anonymous transactions and trading. If you got all this info on me like how they blackmail on bitstamp for deposits to clear? obviously they used these documents to access easy way into bitfinex accounts. Ceio had me verified all my details on their site, the site closed without me recording 2FA code, and taking a screenshot of the barcode helps also to retireve the 2FA code, they wanted photo's of all sorts of verification that i wont produce. Email from the email address of where you opened the account for that website is enough for password resets.
Paypal wouldnt let me logon to my paypal, said it got accessed from atlanta or something and they made me open a new account so i had no access to see if my account was compromised or any funds missing or receipts left there.

[feinter]

what should you had done or will do when you are under my condition at the present scenarion?

I deal only with Nigerian royalty. Never had an issue, they don't use PayPal, just straight up wire transfers. My $10 million is coming next week, yay.

Yep.. it is really sad that people fall in such "crazy" traps. So many informations about this kind of scams around and still not enough..

[Amadues]

wow this is the first time I read a real story of some one believe in a true nigerian ops morocco prince!
normally when I want some fun (or I receive spam from stuff I try to sell on line) I reply with a btc address!
"pay here first "

[oksana28]

Pmsl. Not sure whether you're trolling or not.

sure I am trolling with the story of moroco prince but the context of my question is true , i just mean to say is that customer protection scheme of Paypal has a flaw, if you take the scenario as per OP then whom you will call the customer ? me or Moroco prince , view can be different if you look from different sides.

[wannaberich]

what should you had done or will do when you are under my condition at the present scenarion?

I deal only with Nigerian royalty. Never had an issue, they don't use PayPal, just straight up wire transfers. My $10 million is coming next week, yay.

Yeah, it is Nigerian Scam, I was scammed once when I studied in the unversity, I was damn silly, I shouldn't trust those scammer, damn! They asked me to exchange checks and those checks are fake. I was arrested by the police and I got the criminal record because of that.

FUCK Nigerian SCAMMERS!