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April 09, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
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I always have to laugh when people compare Bitcoin with the internet.
Why? It is not so far fetched analogy at all. Not laughable at all all imo. It is actually good explanation of what bitcoin is for people who know what internet is and don't know bitcoin. Maybe not so accurate but they will get the gist of bitcoin that way.


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April 09, 2015, 04:53:37 PM
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1980: No one will ever have a personal computer it is to complicated to use and serves no purpose.

1990: No one will ever use the internet it's to complicated to use and serves no purpose have you heard of a video recorder.



Very true and well put, the use of bitcoin isn't complicated at all. Understanding it may be a more complex subject on the other hand.

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April 09, 2015, 06:46:01 PM
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With all new technologies there is always some thing or application that takes them main stream. The GUI for computers, porn made VHS mainstream instead of betamax, and the walkman made personal music players popular. I think we have yet to see the app or device that does this for bit coin. It will be exciting when it does.

You shouldn't rule out that Bitcoin could be the modern day betamax...
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April 09, 2015, 07:04:32 PM
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I think that bitcoin is complicated to understand but there are apps that make it easy to use,we just need more hype between these apps to be expanded in the usual population.
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April 09, 2015, 07:05:01 PM
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With all new technologies there is always some thing or application that takes them main stream. The GUI for computers, porn made VHS mainstream instead of betamax, and the walkman made personal music players popular. I think we have yet to see the app or device that does this for bit coin. It will be exciting when it does.

You shouldn't rule out that Bitcoin could be the modern day betamax...

Tamagatchi, Beanie Baby, Microsoft Zune, HD-DVD...I'll take it at this point!

We haven't even gotten out of early Beta to be even considered by the public...

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April 09, 2015, 07:12:40 PM
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I always have to laugh when people compare Bitcoin with the internet.
Why? It is not so far fetched analogy at all. Not laughable at all all imo. It is actually good explanation of what bitcoin is for people who know what internet is and don't know bitcoin. Maybe not so accurate but they will get the gist of bitcoin that way.

I agree. I think it's actually a valid comparison. Sure they're different things but I can see bitcoin growing like the internet to become something worldwide that is accessible and liberates a lot of people.
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April 09, 2015, 07:14:59 PM
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I guess this means we are all above average.  Wink

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April 09, 2015, 07:53:56 PM
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It takes time for people to afford these services/products as I myself owned a computer in 2003 and I took an internet connection in 2005 while I know many people who owned computers in 1990s. Bitcoins are not complicated to use but it needs to get the recognition it deserves. Till it doesn't, I don't see it having a sustainable future.

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April 09, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
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Pre Stone Age: No one would want stone tools and weapons. They're to complex. Wood tools and weapons are fine.
Stone Age: No one would want copper tools and weapons. They're to complex. Stone tools and weapons are fine.
Copper Age: No one would want bronze tools and weapons. They're to complex. Copper tools and weapons are fine.
Bronze Age: No one would want iron tools and weapons. They're to complex. Bronze tools and weapons are fine.
3rd Century AD: No one would want a sawmill. They're to complex. Hand saws and axes are fine.
13th Century AD: No one would want a gun. They're to complex. Swords, knives, maces, clubs and polearms are fine.
1684: No one would want a semaphore line (optical telegraphy). They're to complex. Letters are fine.
1698: No one would want a steam-powered machine. They are to complex. Beasts of burden are fine.
1753: No one would want a telegraph machine. They're to complex. Semaphore lines and letters are fine.
1876: No one would want a telephone. They're to complex. Telegraph machines and letters are fine.
1886: No one would want a gas-powered machine. They're to complex. Steam-powered machines are fine.

1900 No one would ever want to drive a car, they are expensive, hard to operate and look funny.
1920 No one would ever fly a plane on a daily basis, they are too dangerous.
1970 No one would ever use these computers at home, they are only good for scientists.
2008 No one would need an OS in their phone, it's hard to use, drains battery, phones are for calling!

Let's also not forget things like:
1990 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 100mb?
1996 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1gb?
2008 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1TB?

2015 Why would anybody need a digital currency?  Wink

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April 10, 2015, 05:49:50 AM
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You guys need to stop being bitcoin cultists and look at this objectively. Using bitcoin gives 0 benefit over fiat to the vast majority of people. Instead, they'd have to pay fees to exchange it, and to transfer the bitcoins to their own wallet, then again when they're using it. If I withdraw cash through interac, I don't pay anything. I don't pay anything extra when I'm paying the merchant either. With credit card, I can pay on credit. It's also extremely easy to use.

Why would I spend the effort to obtain bitcoins? The answer is that there is no reason, unless you're a libertarian bitcoin cultist. Seriously. Stop saying "You can obtain bitcoins by doing this, this, this, this, this, this and this". I can obtain fiat without doing all those steps. I get no benefit from doing those steps. Why should I do it?

Again, whether something is complicated or not depends on what that thing is/does. spending 1000 hours working to become an olympic champion is easy. Spending 1000 hours working to buy an Aero bar is extremely stupid.



What u dont realize is that using fiat is not 'free'. Sure it seems free on the consumer side, but every person that uses fiat is being stolen from in 2 ways. 1. Devaluation of the fiat currency over time. 2. Higher prices due to merchant / merchant processing fees.
Theres fees/'a price to pay' with either system... ALWAYS, the nice thing about bitcoin is its completely transparent.

1. Devaluation of the Fiat currency over time.
BitCoin was worth $1000 a year or so ago. It's worth like $300 now. (AUD) That's the largest devaluation I've seen, and it is within the span of a year and a half.

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April 10, 2015, 06:47:45 AM
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Bitcoin is in specific (still early) stage of its development - all bitcoins are now in hands of few people compared to the world's population and it has some value already. This two factors combined IMO can lead to high volatility and temporary devaluations.

BTC is not much more complicated to use than for example fiat online wire transfers. You don't have to understand how exactly blockchain works to send or receive some coins. But any cryptocurrency needs some kind of cheap and secure hardware wallet access,  something like credit card - just to take out of your pocket, make an tx and forget. Then, people would more likely use this kind of tender if they don't have to involve their smartphone all the time.
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April 10, 2015, 02:03:27 PM
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People forget, we needed all this just to get online...
















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April 10, 2015, 03:02:57 PM
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the difference between the internet and bitcoin is nobody ever stole 3/4 of a million internets ...

That's right, Bitcoin is not very hard to use, any internet user can figure it out in minutes but keeping the funds secure might be little difficult for some people as hackers are finding newer ways of breaching in computers.

this.

the funds secure side, need some killer hardware and app.

A sort of verifiable hardware so you can check for hardcoded backdoors in USBs etc and eay to use software UI that is very hard to crack. This is an integral part.

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April 10, 2015, 03:55:18 PM
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Pre Stone Age: No one would want stone tools and weapons. They're to complex. Wood tools and weapons are fine.
Stone Age: No one would want copper tools and weapons. They're to complex. Stone tools and weapons are fine.
Copper Age: No one would want bronze tools and weapons. They're to complex. Copper tools and weapons are fine.
Bronze Age: No one would want iron tools and weapons. They're to complex. Bronze tools and weapons are fine.
3rd Century AD: No one would want a sawmill. They're to complex. Hand saws and axes are fine.
13th Century AD: No one would want a gun. They're to complex. Swords, knives, maces, clubs and polearms are fine.
1684: No one would want a semaphore line (optical telegraphy). They're to complex. Letters are fine.
1698: No one would want a steam-powered machine. They are to complex. Beasts of burden are fine.
1753: No one would want a telegraph machine. They're to complex. Semaphore lines and letters are fine.
1876: No one would want a telephone. They're to complex. Telegraph machines and letters are fine.
1886: No one would want a gas-powered machine. They're to complex. Steam-powered machines are fine.

1900 No one would ever want to drive a car, they are expensive, hard to operate and look funny.
1920 No one would ever fly a plane on a daily basis, they are too dangerous.
1970 No one would ever use these computers at home, they are only good for scientists.
2008 No one would need an OS in their phone, it's hard to use, drains battery, phones are for calling!

Let's also not forget things like:
1990 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 100mb?
1996 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1gb?
2008 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1TB?

2015 Why would anybody need a digital currency?  Wink


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April 10, 2015, 04:05:13 PM
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1980: No one will ever have a personal computer it is to complicated to use and serves no purpose.

1990: No one will ever use the internet it's to complicated to use and serves no purpose have you heard of a video recorder.





Expected a dumb comment that misses the point on where we are at today with Bitcoin.
Left satisfied.

PS: This video is how I feel when I try to explain Bitcoin to morons that do not get it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lskpNmUl8yQ
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April 10, 2015, 04:13:56 PM
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It is actually we have this thread, lets remember it and hopefully we could back here in 10 years to see what people thought back then. I assure you that 'future you' will be amused by the progress bitcoin and general cryptocurrency were through. Do you remember Bitcoin for pizza?


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April 10, 2015, 04:18:05 PM
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Pre Stone Age: No one would want stone tools and weapons. They're to complex. Wood tools and weapons are fine.
Stone Age: No one would want copper tools and weapons. They're to complex. Stone tools and weapons are fine.
Copper Age: No one would want bronze tools and weapons. They're to complex. Copper tools and weapons are fine.
Bronze Age: No one would want iron tools and weapons. They're to complex. Bronze tools and weapons are fine.
3rd Century AD: No one would want a sawmill. They're to complex. Hand saws and axes are fine.
13th Century AD: No one would want a gun. They're to complex. Swords, knives, maces, clubs and polearms are fine.
1684: No one would want a semaphore line (optical telegraphy). They're to complex. Letters are fine.
1698: No one would want a steam-powered machine. They are to complex. Beasts of burden are fine.
1753: No one would want a telegraph machine. They're to complex. Semaphore lines and letters are fine.
1876: No one would want a telephone. They're to complex. Telegraph machines and letters are fine.
1886: No one would want a gas-powered machine. They're to complex. Steam-powered machines are fine.

1900 No one would ever want to drive a car, they are expensive, hard to operate and look funny.
1920 No one would ever fly a plane on a daily basis, they are too dangerous.
1970 No one would ever use these computers at home, they are only good for scientists.
2008 No one would need an OS in their phone, it's hard to use, drains battery, phones are for calling!

Let's also not forget things like:
1990 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 100mb?
1996 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1gb?
2008 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1TB?

2015 Why would anybody need a digital currency?  Wink


+1

I still do not understand what is the meaning of "+1", please explain to me.

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April 10, 2015, 04:20:38 PM
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Pre Stone Age: No one would want stone tools and weapons. They're to complex. Wood tools and weapons are fine.
Stone Age: No one would want copper tools and weapons. They're to complex. Stone tools and weapons are fine.
Copper Age: No one would want bronze tools and weapons. They're to complex. Copper tools and weapons are fine.
Bronze Age: No one would want iron tools and weapons. They're to complex. Bronze tools and weapons are fine.
3rd Century AD: No one would want a sawmill. They're to complex. Hand saws and axes are fine.
13th Century AD: No one would want a gun. They're to complex. Swords, knives, maces, clubs and polearms are fine.
1684: No one would want a semaphore line (optical telegraphy). They're to complex. Letters are fine.
1698: No one would want a steam-powered machine. They are to complex. Beasts of burden are fine.
1753: No one would want a telegraph machine. They're to complex. Semaphore lines and letters are fine.
1876: No one would want a telephone. They're to complex. Telegraph machines and letters are fine.
1886: No one would want a gas-powered machine. They're to complex. Steam-powered machines are fine.

1900 No one would ever want to drive a car, they are expensive, hard to operate and look funny.
1920 No one would ever fly a plane on a daily basis, they are too dangerous.
1970 No one would ever use these computers at home, they are only good for scientists.
2008 No one would need an OS in their phone, it's hard to use, drains battery, phones are for calling!

Let's also not forget things like:
1990 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 100mb?
1996 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1gb?
2008 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1TB?

2015 Why would anybody need a digital currency?  Wink


+1

I still do not understand what is the meaning of "+1", please explain to me.

It' shows agreement... an upvote.
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April 10, 2015, 04:23:11 PM
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Pre Stone Age: No one would want stone tools and weapons. They're to complex. Wood tools and weapons are fine.
Stone Age: No one would want copper tools and weapons. They're to complex. Stone tools and weapons are fine.
Copper Age: No one would want bronze tools and weapons. They're to complex. Copper tools and weapons are fine.
Bronze Age: No one would want iron tools and weapons. They're to complex. Bronze tools and weapons are fine.
3rd Century AD: No one would want a sawmill. They're to complex. Hand saws and axes are fine.
13th Century AD: No one would want a gun. They're to complex. Swords, knives, maces, clubs and polearms are fine.
1684: No one would want a semaphore line (optical telegraphy). They're to complex. Letters are fine.
1698: No one would want a steam-powered machine. They are to complex. Beasts of burden are fine.
1753: No one would want a telegraph machine. They're to complex. Semaphore lines and letters are fine.
1876: No one would want a telephone. They're to complex. Telegraph machines and letters are fine.
1886: No one would want a gas-powered machine. They're to complex. Steam-powered machines are fine.

1900 No one would ever want to drive a car, they are expensive, hard to operate and look funny.
1920 No one would ever fly a plane on a daily basis, they are too dangerous.
1970 No one would ever use these computers at home, they are only good for scientists.
2008 No one would need an OS in their phone, it's hard to use, drains battery, phones are for calling!

Let's also not forget things like:
1990 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 100mb?
1996 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1gb?
2008 Why would anybody need a hard disk larger than 1TB?

2015 Why would anybody need a digital currency?  Wink


Ha that's great. Leave the laggards behind. They'll come round eventually when they realize what an opportunity they've missed. I don't think bitcoin is that difficult to use any way and is only going to get more easier and much more accessible but at least we can say we've been here for the longhaul.
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April 11, 2015, 07:14:56 AM
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I think Bitcoin can be pretty confusing to a beginner. But it can be learned quickly. Hopefully Bitcoin becomes more simple to use in the future!
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