[ANN] DiceShark Pro / SharkBot Pro - Pre-Release BETA - Shark the Dice!

[CryptoDigitals]

DiceShark Pro Beta - Now Available for Download



LINK TO ZIP FILE:  EXCEL WORKBOOK:    http://www.filedropper.com/dicesharkpro-lite

This specific Lite Beta Version of DiceShark Pro - is tuned for PrimeDice. Specifically; it accurately calculates (to a fine degree with little variance) - Streaks - based off just a few simple entries you set:  Base Bet; BankRoll; Increase on Loss; Etc.

This workbook will work with most dice sites; however it's the PD Version - calculating the correct ROUND UP and ROUND DOWN patterns PrimeDice uses; as well as rounding past the 8th Decimal.

With DiceShark Pro - You can now TAILOR your betting strategy... as well as modify as your balance changes (important) - to always be playing "for your bankroll" - in order to achieve the MOST IMPORTANT GOAL:

MAXIMIZING YOUR "AVERAGE" GAIN PER ROLL OVER THE LONG RUN

You can set up a Red Streak in Multiple Ways... With for example a 1 BTC Bankroll - at a given X Payout; you can set your start bet at A and your Increase on Loss at B.  But will this strategy be better; or worse; over the long run than if you had used a HIGHER start bet; and a LOWER increase on loss... or vice versa?

Most players do not calculate these variables - yet they have a dramatic effect on your gameplay; survivability; wins and losses.

EVERYTHING AUTO CALCULATES FOR YOU - JUST ADJUST THE BASIC PAREMETERS - AND YOU CAN SEE HOW YOUR STREAKS WILL PLAY OUT - HOW PROFITABLE THEY WILL BE, AND SO FORTH.



The Calculation will accurately show you in realtime - just by changing your base bet; bankroll; etc - how your streaks will look - bet for bet.

They will also tell you if your increase on loss ends up - redding out into a loss down the line - or if any valleys exist - where you are in profit; then go red; then go back into profit on bets "Within a Series" - This does happen!



The worst Martingale Strategy is the 2X Payout; double on loss. The more advanced strategies; 6X, 2.80136X, etc - depending on your bankroll - can make a huge difference in your gameplay.

The calculation workbook also will show you your odds of streaking red (bust/out of funds) within a hour/day/week/month of continuous rolls - based on your RPM (Rolls Per Minute) which you can time and enter in.



This workbook is the Lite Version. Our full workbook allows you to do 9900x Martingales to the 20th Decimal Point - meaning a fraction of a percentage raise on a single satoshi over thousands of bets.

I hope you enjoy the Lite Version. And of course - Full Pro Version will be released later this month.

We've rolled over 100,000,000 rolls compiling data; and we have some really exciting stuff we'll be rolling out.

But in short; if you are just betting; guessing; and not using a tool like this (ours or something similar). You are playing blind.

Hope you enjoy,

CD

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[Snorek]

If that tool is really that good as you are telling us it would be awesome. But I have hard time deciding that if I want to download something unknown on my PC. Maybe someone here will be willing enough to test that program first and tell us if that is safe to run?

[CryptoDigitals]

If that tool is really that good as you are telling us it would be awesome. But I have hard time deciding that if I want to download something unknown on my PC. Maybe someone here will be willing enough to test that program first and tell us if that is safe to run?

It's not a program; just a zip file with an Excel file.

There are no Macros... so I don't think there is any risk (sorry I don't know if an Excel file with no Macros enabled can contain a virus.

But that said - I created it. Its something I made in simple Excel. I had posted about it long ago and a lot of people had been asking me for it.

Feel free to run a virus check on it - its perfectly safe.

Best,

CD

[CryptoDigitals]

I'll be adding a short video/screen capture of the workbook in action - the full featured version.  Again this is the Beta/Lite version before I release the full version.

I'll do a screen demo of how it works - and what it does. 

Hopefully I can get that up tonight for everyone.

CD

[Snorek]

If that tool is really that good as you are telling us it would be awesome. But I have hard time deciding that if I want to download something unknown on my PC. Maybe someone here will be willing enough to test that program first and tell us if that is safe to run?

It's not a program; just a zip file with an Excel file.

There are no Macros... so I don't think there is any risk (sorry I don't know if an Excel file with no Macros enabled can contain a virus.

But that said - I created it. Its something I made in simple Excel. I had posted about it long ago and a lot of people had been asking me for it.

Feel free to run a virus check on it - its perfectly safe.

Best,

CD

Your are probably right and your creation is safe and helpful. But unfortunately this is bitcoin forum, on people's PCs you can find a lot of wallets with shitton of coins in it, it is a dream for hackers. I am not so tech proficient with advanced coding but I think you could create some sort of virus which will hack wallets and send coins to hacker's address... That is why I am always so cautious about download anything.

[CryptoDigitals]

If that tool is really that good as you are telling us it would be awesome. But I have hard time deciding that if I want to download something unknown on my PC. Maybe someone here will be willing enough to test that program first and tell us if that is safe to run?

It's not a program; just a zip file with an Excel file.

There are no Macros... so I don't think there is any risk (sorry I don't know if an Excel file with no Macros enabled can contain a virus.

But that said - I created it. Its something I made in simple Excel. I had posted about it long ago and a lot of people had been asking me for it.

Feel free to run a virus check on it - its perfectly safe.

Best,

CD

Your are probably right and your creation is safe and helpful. But unfortunately this is bitcoin forum, on people's PCs you can find a lot of wallets with shitton of coins in it, it is a dream for hackers. I am not so tech proficient with advanced coding but I think you could create some sort of virus which will hack wallets and send coins to hacker's address... That is why I am always so cautious about download anything.

I understand your concern; completely.  Perhaps someone could do a download and run a virus check (third party) to verify it's safe.

Understand this is a Beta/Lite version of the full workbook and bot which I am releasing together. We already have it up and running on lots of accounts. It has changed out game.

We are releasing this for free - to preview/promote the product we will open up later this month. So sending out a virus... well that wouldnt be a very good promotion at all.

Again; its only an excel file. No special add ons.

CD

[CryptoDigitals]

While I didn't have time to do a video tonight. Here are some screen captures from the Calculation Workbook:

You are able to define your bankroll. Your Payout X. Your Starting Bet Size. Your Increase on Loss. And TAILOR your betting strategy... as well as modify as your balance changes (important) - to always be playing "for your bankroll" - in order to achieve the MOST IMPORTANT GOAL OF PLAYING A DICE SITE:

MAXIMIZING YOUR "AVERAGE" GAIN PER ROLL OVER THE LONG RUN

You can set up a Red Streak in Multiple Ways... With for example a 1 BTC Bankroll - at a given X Payout; you can set your start bet at A and your Increase on Loss at B.  But will this strategy be better; or worse; over the long run than if you had used a HIGHER start bet; and a LOWER increase on loss... or vice versa?

Most players do not calculate these variables - yet they have a dramatic effect on your gameplay; survivability; wins and losses.

EVERYTHING AUTO CALCULATES FOR YOU - JUST ADJUST THE BASIC PAREMETERS - AND YOU CAN SEE HOW YOUR STREAKS WILL PLAY OUT - HOW PROFITABLE THEY WILL BE, AND SO FORTH.



The Calculation will accurately show you in realtime - just by changing your base bet; bankroll; etc - how your streaks will look - bet for bet.

They will also tell you if your increase on loss ends up - redding out into a loss down the line - or if any valleys exist - where you are in profit; then go red; then go back into profit on bets "Within a Series" - This does happen!



The worst Martingale Strategy is the 2X Payout; double on loss. The more advanced strategies; 6X, 2.80136X, etc - depending on your bankroll - can make a huge difference in your gameplay.

The calculation workbook also will show you your odds of streaking red (bust/out of funds) within a hour/day/week/month of continuous rolls - based on your RPM (Rolls Per Minute) which you can time and enter in.



This workbook is the Lite Version. Our full workbook allows you to do 9900x Martingales to the 20th Decimal Point - meaning a fraction of a percentage raise on a single satoshi over thousands of bets.

I hope you enjoy the Lite Version. And of course - Full Pro Version will be released later this month.

We've rolled over 100,000,000 rolls compiling data; and we have some really exciting stuff we'll be rolling out.

But in short; if you are just betting; guessing; and not using a tool like this (ours or something similar). You are playing blind.

Hope you enjoy,

CD

[CryptoDigitals]

Announced on PrimeDice - Looks like people are getting the download! 

As this is a BETA - we would really appreciate feedback / input - as we will be making tweaks before the full release!

Thanks all!

CD

[NicosKaralis]

I downloaded... Nothing much out of the ordinary

Couple of hours earlier i did the same in google docs

It is just a calculator that tells you how much you'll need to get x many errors using martingale

As beta there is no real function for me, I'm curious about the pro functions but i don't think it is really that useful

Its nice to see that information, but a 5 minute spreadsheet can do the same

Here is my spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12dOJZrFZ7bVZUOvCGVRBlfuT2hrgwjp30UrIZ2pvkQE/edit?usp=sharing

Please note that i created it just to mess around with multipliers

[CryptoDigitals]

Hi,

Well, first; you need to get some additional commands into your google Doc. Your document likely works ok for a simple 2x Strategy for 30 bets - but you arent using any ROUNDUP ROUNDDOWN, MIN, MAX, DECIMAL EXTENSIONS, etc.

So while your doc is fine for say doing 2x for 25 bets - the calculations will run wrong the farther and farther it gets down the streak if you are doing an odd multiplier. For instance... 2.8X.  The slippage becomes worse and worse - to where you may actually incorrectly plot out a streak thats 2, 3 or even 4 Reds off.

PrimeDice actually would use 2.80135 in place of 2.8. This makes a big difference after 20+ rolls. Also; how it handles say a 1.5x on odd number payouts... rounding, again - makes a big difference. With a 2x again - its fine.

Second, our pro version goes to 60,000 lines. So with the bot - you can actually Martingale a 9900X series; starting at 0.00000010 and increase on Loss 0.001215% - which your bot because of the lack of the equations - would not be able to handle.

However not sure there has been much interest in this - so as before we may just in fact let the Beta be the free release and keep our Pro version internal.

Best,

CD

[CryptoDigitals]

Also; ours allows for multiple staged pre-rolls.

So roll 20 pre-rolls at 0.00000100 - then on bet 21 run 1 increase of 10x (making bet 21x 0.00001000) - then increase on loss 0.0112575 - which is good for Martingaling 99x or 100x strategies into the 1000s of rolls.

Best,

CD

[NicosKaralis]

Hi,

Well, first; you need to get some additional commands into your google Doc. Your document likely works ok for a simple 2x Strategy for 30 bets - but you arent using any ROUNDUP ROUNDDOWN, MIN, MAX, DECIMAL EXTENSIONS, etc.

Yeah, like i told you, i created just to see some numbers and if i need i can improve it

So while your doc is fine for say doing 2x for 25 bets - the calculations will run wrong the farther and farther it gets down the streak if you are doing an odd multiplier. For instance... 2.8X.  The slippage becomes worse and worse - to where you may actually incorrectly plot out a streak thats 2, 3 or even 4 Reds off.

This is truth, but it doesn't matter, gdocs have a very nice approximation that i don't even need to code.
And as a plus side, it does the minimum needed to keep going if i need it

Second, our pro version goes to 60,000 lines. So with the bot - you can actually Martingale a 9900X series; starting at 0.00000010 and increase on Loss 0.001215% - which your bot because of the lack of the equations - would not be able to handle.

You are not very familiar with exel, are you? Do you realize i can expand my table as far as i need?
Just need to drag how much i want to extend

However not sure there has been much interest in this - so as before we may just in fact let the Beta be the free release and keep our Pro version internal.

Truth also, people don't want numbers, they want results, like bots and scripts

Also; ours allows for multiple staged pre-rolls.

So roll 20 pre-rolls at 0.00000100 - then on bet 21 run 1 increase of 10x (making bet 21x 0.00001000) - then increase on loss 0.0112575 - which is good for Martingaling 99x or 100x strategies into the 1000s of rolls.

Sorry but i have no idea what did you mean by this

[dooglus]

Also; ours allows for multiple staged pre-rolls.

So roll 20 pre-rolls at 0.00000100 - then on bet 21 run 1 increase of 10x (making bet 21x 0.00001000) - then increase on loss 0.0112575 - which is good for Martingaling 99x or 100x strategies into the 1000s of rolls.

Sorry but i have no idea what did you mean by this

"pre-rolling" is where you bet a small (or zero) amount over and over until you lose N times in a row before starting your Martingale sequence in the mistaken belief that the N losing rolls uses up most of your losing streak such that you won't lose too many more times before the streak ends.

Of course in reality the only way the pre-rolling actually helps is that it reduces your average bet size and so reduces the rate at which you lose money.

I guess the spreadsheet is calculating the expected number of pre-rolls required to generate N losses in a row, calculating the expected cost of making all those bets, and adding that loss to the various possible profits and losses from your Martingale streak.

[CryptoDigitals]

Also; ours allows for multiple staged pre-rolls.

So roll 20 pre-rolls at 0.00000100 - then on bet 21 run 1 increase of 10x (making bet 21x 0.00001000) - then increase on loss 0.0112575 - which is good for Martingaling 99x or 100x strategies into the 1000s of rolls.

Sorry but i have no idea what did you mean by this

"pre-rolling" is where you bet a small (or zero) amount over and over until you lose N times in a row before starting your Martingale sequence in the mistaken belief that the N losing rolls uses up most of your losing streak such that you won't lose too many more times before the streak ends.

Of course in reality the only way the pre-rolling actually helps is that it reduces your average bet size and so reduces the rate at which you lose money.

I guess the spreadsheet is calculating the expected number of pre-rolls required to generate N losses in a row, calculating the expected cost of making all those bets, and adding that loss to the various possible profits and losses from your Martingale streak.

That is correct. The spreadsheet allows you to set a pre-roll wager amount A; and set the number of pre-rolls at A; after which (Using Sharkbot); a one time only Increase on Loss is applied to the first bet of the martingale sequence; then a standard multiplier (Increase on Loss) will be applied to each loss moving forward.

An example would be:

Payout: 3X
Initial Bet Size:  0.00001000
Pre-Rolls @ 0.00001000 = 6
Initial One Time Multiplier: 300% (Which would be applied to the 7th Wager)
Standard Multiplier:  25% (Increase on Loss for Martingale on loss 8-> forward.

It is simply a strategy... like many out there.

I agree with Dooglus; and it is important that players remember that each and every roll is independent in and of itself. Just because you rolled 20 Reds/Losses on 2X - makes it no more or less likely that the 21st roll will win. Past rolls have no effect on the current roll.

However; there is something to be said for the statistical odds of a given loss streak within a series of rolls. Thus; and I am sure Dooglus would agree - that with a Payout Multiplier of 2X - 100 Reds/Losses (Consecutive) would be astronimically unlikely even over a series of millions, or billions of rolls. (I don't think it's ever occurred nor anywhere near that number).

So a player could set up an initial wager amount - for the first 10 rolls; then increase his wager (say triple) on the 11th, and martingale moving forward.

If a player is playing within a legitamate provably fair environment - this would allow longer loss streaks given a specific bankroll. But again; it does not reduce or eliminate house odds or the -EV playing field.

CD

[CryptoDigitals]

So Long Folks;

It's time for me to say fare well.

I'll try to keep this short:

I took heat for offering a PrimeDice Calculator Worksheet, which I created, for sale. At the request of members; I pulled it, and made a public statement that I agreed that selling what sounded too much like a "winning" strategy; was wrong. I never sold a single copy.

However since that post, Ive been hit with numerous negative trust postings, claiming I was a scammer. Clearly from the threads I never scammed anyone; I never sold a single copy; I publicly stated I agreed with the sentiment of the community.

Thank you to those who who listened to my PM's asking for a retraction of the Negative Trust. I never meant to offend anyone and I appreciate those who did remove or revise their review of what I was offering.

One particular Negative Trust Post was from a high level member; whom I have tried repeatedly to contact; asking to resolve the situation, make amends, and consider revising my Trust Review. I apologized to him personally.

I understand his reasons for not being willing to bend. I don't blame him. I made a mistake out of anger and frustration that such a review would be placed on my account when the thread clearly indicated that I had not sold anything; never taken any bitcoins; held an open and honest conversation with members; answered questions; etc. I was angry and I should have approached this member directly to resolve the situation.

So to that member; I am again sorry for the public post I made in regards to your Trust Post. It was a mistake. I offer again my apology and want you to know I harbor no ill feelings to you.

As far as what I was offering; I have since posted it for download for free. It can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018897.msg11033154#msg11033154

I've received a number of thanks in the PD chat room and in PMs - I appreciate that. I hope you find it useful simply as a tool.

For those not familiar with the original post - it can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=873818.0

There are even community members who initially posted negative trust - yet later changed it to positive trust after I helped them with the strategies my calculator created. Thank you for those positive trust reviews.

To the bitcointalk.org community. It's been fun. But I am going to take a break. It's disheartening that my initial post was received the way it was, as I was never in any way attempting to take advantage of anyone nor did I. Its upsetting that some members would not remove their negative trust - and this left a permanent stain on my reputation which has long lingered and still to this day affects how people respond to me here.

To the one member who I did call out for the negative review; I understand why you won't respond to my messages. I am sorry we couldn't work things out.

Taking a break now from Bitcoin. Its been an interesting, profitable adventure for sure with though with many ups and downs; but it's time to move on to something new.

As there is no way to delete accounts; I'll be using notepad to copy and paste a truly random password into place as a new password; and erasing it's existance. My email address has been removed. My account thus; is now inactive.

Best of luck to all,

CD

[dooglus]

I agree with Dooglus; and it is important that players remember that each and every roll is independent in and of itself. Just because you rolled 20 Reds/Losses on 2X - makes it no more or less likely that the 21st roll will win. Past rolls have no effect on the current roll.

I'm with you so far. Pre-rolling is a useless strategy except for the fact that it keeps you betting small so you don't waste your money by betting big.

However; there is something to be said for the statistical odds of a given loss streak within a series of rolls.

Long losing streaks happen less often than short ones. This is unquestionably true.

Thus; and I am sure Dooglus would agree - that with a Payout Multiplier of 2X - 100 Reds/Losses (Consecutive) would be astronimically unlikely even over a series of millions, or billions of rolls. (I don't think it's ever occurred nor anywhere near that number).

I do agree. Losses of 100 in a row at 50% chance don't happen.

So a player could set up an initial wager amount - for the first 10 rolls; then increase his wager (say triple) on the 11th, and martingale moving forward.

I don't even disagree with that. Players *do* pre-roll. I've seen it.

If a player is playing within a legitamate provably fair environment - this would allow longer loss streaks given a specific bankroll. But again; it does not reduce or eliminate house odds or the -EV playing field.

If you skip the first 10 losing bets of every losing streak by betting very small, you will be able to survive streaks up to 10 steps longer than if you didn't. But you will be playing about 1024 times less often, waiting for these streaks of 10 to show up. And when they do, the streaks you actually get to play will be of length 0, 1, 2, etc. and will occur with the same frequency as the streaks you would have been facing had you not pre-rolled.

It's a nothing strategy. It slows down your play and saves you money in the same way that turning off your computer for 59 minutes each hour would.