I'm just talking about using where it encrypts over for example public wifi. A enterprise solution such as many big companies do. You connect to vpn remotly.
Understood. Neither Tor nor VPN is secure enough. However, VPN is better than Tor when we consider many facts.
Deletion is not as important as it's not for anything illegal. And any reputable site it gets cookies etc, they will not be of much use hours later deleted or not.
We don't use VPN & Tor just for security. We also use it for privacy and is better to get a logless VPN than others. If somehow, the log is leaked, IP attacks can be expected. With a logless VPN, we can secure ourselves from it. Even a smallest factor may result in biggest hazard.
I don't debate VPN is better then TOR I agree completely with you on that.
I argue what the use of a VPN can be. Many buisness use them for security and privacy. Lets say you have a work laptop connect at starbucks and use your VPN which puts you on your work network. At starbucks if someone is trying to get data they will just see encrypted assuming it's connected to that work VPN.
Most enterprise VPN have history as companies keep LOTS of logs of what goes on in the network. I'm talking about fortune 500 companies, not a ma/pa shop.
If your using a logless VPN your goal is to hide your activity. With a nice work VPN your goal is to encrypt traffic and get you on your work network.