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Author Topic: [CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx  (Read 315719 times)
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July 22, 2013, 11:22:19 PM
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Regarding the difference between the lawyer or investment banker and the relationship of the CEO, in this case it seems to come down to the usurping of a corporate opportunity versus the agency relationship. Given the large premium it is highly unlikely there was any usurping of a corporate opportunity and even if there was then shareholders have been adequately compensated or at least enough that they have very little left to grieve about. There appears to have been no fraud or self-dealing; in fact, to the contrary it seems as if Erik was managing SD for free when he should have been drawing a salary.

In regards to (a), it is impossible for Erik to either prove or disprove whether he did engage in insider trading.

As a result, (b) is an irrelevant question.

So, it is not that Erik is ignoring the question but merely that it is impossible to definitively answer.

Sure, it smarts a bit selling shares a day before the buyout. Personally, I have been zapped like this more than once in the public markets like NYSE or NASDAQ so I know what it feels like. But that is also part of what makes the markets so fun.

It is what it is and no one forced the sale the day before the buyout nor was there any fraudulent information, unless that is what you are asserting?, disseminated by Erik to which you would reasonably rely on to your detriment in making the sale.

Even in the event that an attacker gains more than 50% of the network's computational power, only transactions sent by the attacker could be reversed or double-spent. The network would not be destroyed.
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July 23, 2013, 02:19:17 AM
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sunnankar, you smell of shill pretty bad.

Are you in fact trying to deny the evidence that purports a high level of deceit and manipulation occurring within this situation. As it has been restated many times, this is not an issue of legality, but one of ethical concern. It may be perfectly legal to put live insects and spiders into a hot frying pan... It is society's role to be outspoken when it feels, 'what is deemed legal/illegal' does not match what the opinion of the public is. Hell, we're all here in bitcoin land because we're unhappy with the legal printing of money, frac reserve banking, corporate interest regulations etc. This is no different.

Just because what is occurring is 'allowed' to occur, DOES NOT infer we should allow for it to continue unhindered, as if we were okay with how it happened.

There isn't much of a straightforward way for Erik to prove once and for all the legitimacy of his claims, but his track record of lack of explanation towards other unscrupulous behavior indicates that this is no different... A mound of (justified) accusations are at Eriks feet but all he is willing to do is sweep them under the carpet.

How you can possibly say we should negate this potential multi million dollar scam simply because you can see no clear solution...When there is a plethora of evidence that strongly suggests Erik has fleeced his investors due to his newly acquired bitcoin lust.

How you can say that he doesn't at least owe his investors an in depth explanation, supported by evidence of his recent actions is beyond me. Many people (rightly so) feel wronged by Eriks actions and it it is important that these issues get addressed. Millions of dollars is not a trivial matter.
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July 23, 2013, 11:23:49 AM
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Regarding the Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through (G.SDICE)

Please note that due to my vacation in Spain, the payout and buy back of the S.DICE shares will not happen until the 28th.
I am sorry for this but I do not have my gpg key and such on my laptop they are on a dedicated computer of which I currently do not have access to.
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So basically he is on holiday so cannot do the buyback just yet.
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July 23, 2013, 11:56:54 AM
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Regarding the Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through (G.SDICE)

Please note that due to my vacation in Spain, the payout and buy back of the S.DICE shares will not happen until the 28th.
I am sorry for this but I do not have my gpg key and such on my laptop they are on a dedicated computer of which I currently do not have access to.
Best Regards
DeaDTerra


So basically he is on holiday so cannot do the buyback just yet.
Once I get back to my dedicated computer, I will do the buyback Smiley
Terrible sorry for the delay but it was an unexpected event.
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July 23, 2013, 11:57:23 AM
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Will you take 5% out of it?
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July 23, 2013, 11:58:50 AM
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Will you take 5% out of it?
No,
The argument is that it was not a dividend but a buyback and hence I can't take a % of it.
It is a valid argument and hence I won't be taking any cut.
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July 23, 2013, 12:01:35 PM
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Thanks. Just bought quite a lot of shares below 0.0035 Smiley
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July 23, 2013, 03:30:15 PM
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Regarding the Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through (G.SDICE)

Please note that due to my vacation in Spain, the payout and buy back of the S.DICE shares will not happen until the 28th.
I am sorry for this but I do not have my gpg key and such on my laptop they are on a dedicated computer of which I currently do not have access to.
Best Regards
DeaDTerra


So basically he is on holiday so cannot do the buyback just yet.

I believe you have S.DICE-PT confused with GSDPT.  They're different passthroughs as far as I know.  Trading is halted on S.DICE-PT (on the BTC-TC exchange), but GSDPT is still trading.
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July 23, 2013, 05:51:13 PM
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Regarding the Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through (G.SDICE)

Please note that due to my vacation in Spain, the payout and buy back of the S.DICE shares will not happen until the 28th.
I am sorry for this but I do not have my gpg key and such on my laptop they are on a dedicated computer of which I currently do not have access to.
Best Regards
DeaDTerra


So basically he is on holiday so cannot do the buyback just yet.

I believe you have S.DICE-PT confused with GSDPT.  They're different passthroughs as far as I know.  Trading is halted on S.DICE-PT (on the BTC-TC exchange), but GSDPT is still trading.
https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.SDICE
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https://btct.co/security/GSDPT
Are the PTs I operate Smiley
//DeadTerra
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July 23, 2013, 05:59:28 PM
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Regarding the Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through (G.SDICE)

Please note that due to my vacation in Spain, the payout and buy back of the S.DICE shares will not happen until the 28th.
I am sorry for this but I do not have my gpg key and such on my laptop they are on a dedicated computer of which I currently do not have access to.
Best Regards
DeaDTerra


So basically he is on holiday so cannot do the buyback just yet.

I believe you have S.DICE-PT confused with GSDPT.  They're different passthroughs as far as I know.  Trading is halted on S.DICE-PT (on the BTC-TC exchange), but GSDPT is still trading.

Not only trading was halted, S.Dice-PT has already paid their shareholders in full, taking 0% cut, and this happened like 3 days ago. I'm not sure why GSDPT has not been halted, and also why it hasn't paid its shareholders, surely there's internet in Spain?

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July 23, 2013, 06:04:29 PM
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Not only trading was halted, S.Dice-PT has already paid their shareholders in full, taking 0% cut, and this happened like 3 days ago. I'm not sure why GSDPT has not been halted, and also why it hasn't paid its shareholders, surely there's internet in Spain?

Terra doesn't have his keys with him to ensure that when he gets hit by a bus his investors are fucked.
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July 23, 2013, 06:12:25 PM
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Not only trading was halted, S.Dice-PT has already paid their shareholders in full, taking 0% cut, and this happened like 3 days ago. I'm not sure why GSDPT has not been halted, and also why it hasn't paid its shareholders, surely there's internet in Spain?

Terra doesn't have his keys with him to ensure that when he gets hit by a bus his investors are fucked.
My backup setup of if I get hit by a buss has been discussed previously Smiley
I won't explain it again but basicly you would still be fine.
//DeaDTerra
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July 23, 2013, 06:42:54 PM
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Not only trading was halted, S.Dice-PT has already paid their shareholders in full, taking 0% cut, and this happened like 3 days ago. I'm not sure why GSDPT has not been halted, and also why it hasn't paid its shareholders, surely there's internet in Spain?

Terra doesn't have his keys with him to ensure that when he gets hit by a bus his investors are fucked.
My backup setup of if I get hit by a buss has been discussed previously Smiley
I won't explain it again but basicly you would still be fine.
//DeaDTerra

So you do have a backup? Good. One never knows on btctalk.  Wink
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July 23, 2013, 06:54:13 PM
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Not only trading was halted, S.Dice-PT has already paid their shareholders in full, taking 0% cut, and this happened like 3 days ago. I'm not sure why GSDPT has not been halted, and also why it hasn't paid its shareholders, surely there's internet in Spain?

Terra doesn't have his keys with him to ensure that when he gets hit by a bus his investors are fucked.
My backup setup of if I get hit by a buss has been discussed previously Smiley
I won't explain it again but basicly you would still be fine.
//DeaDTerra

So you do have a backup? Good. One never knows on btctalk.  Wink
Yes, but the system was built so that if my accounts got hacked, the thief could not get access to it.
It is time triggered and not manual, hence it doesn't help ^^
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July 23, 2013, 10:29:54 PM
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IMO MPOE-PR is an example of bad Negative PR. The bad part comes from the fact we know MPOE-PR represents MPOE.

I seem to recall the part where you were one of the chief supporters of the Global Scam Exchange, back in the days I was the only one saying it's a scam. I seem however to have misplaced the link to that post where you go "Oh woe is me, I'm so stupid, MPOE-PR knows a lot more than me, understands a lot more than me and next time I feel the urge to contradict her I'll just stfu and bow to her superiority instead." Do you have a link handy? Or are you still struggling to come to terms with the causes and reasons one might have to distrust the lists coming out of Nefario?

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July 24, 2013, 02:06:02 PM
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IMO MPOE-PR is an example of bad Negative PR. The bad part comes from the fact we know MPOE-PR represents MPOE.

I seem to recall the part where you were one of the chief supporters of the Global Scam Exchange, back in the days I was the only one saying it's a scam. I seem however to have misplaced the link to that post where you go "Oh woe is me, I'm so stupid, MPOE-PR knows a lot more than me, understands a lot more than me and next time I feel the urge to contradict her I'll just stfu and bow to her superiority instead." Do you have a link handy? Or are you still struggling to come to terms with the causes and reasons one might have to distrust the lists coming out of Nefario?

I'm wondering why you are bring up GLBSE... Oh yeah... Negative PR.

What makes you think I was a Chief Supporter? I don't have any links handy quoting any conversations/arguments we had regarding GLBSE shutting down and the events that followed. IIRC I understood/came to terms with why people did not trust the list(s) Nefario released.
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I'm wondering why you are bring up GLBSE... Oh yeah... Negative PR.

What makes you think I was a Chief Supporter? I don't have any links handy quoting any conversations/arguments we had regarding GLBSE shutting down and the events that followed. IIRC I understood/came to terms with why people did not trust the list(s) Nefario released.

Isn't subjective memory a wonderful thing.

Here's a tip: you going "oh negative pr" as a pretext to pretend your mistakes are really not either mistakes nor yours is in no way different from the average preteen going "I'm not stupid because you're mean" all over this forum. Try and grow up somehow.

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July 24, 2013, 07:45:20 PM
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I'm wondering why you are bring up GLBSE... Oh yeah... Negative PR.

What makes you think I was a Chief Supporter? I don't have any links handy quoting any conversations/arguments we had regarding GLBSE shutting down and the events that followed. IIRC I understood/came to terms with why people did not trust the list(s) Nefario released.

Isn't subjective memory a wonderful thing.

Here's a tip: you going "oh negative pr" as a pretext to pretend your mistakes are really not either mistakes nor yours is in no way different from the average preteen going "I'm not stupid because you're mean" all over this forum. Try and grow up somehow.

I have never used Satoshi Dice, MPEX, or a Passthru for S.DICE.  I don't see how bashing you would help my image or develop a needed pretext. I don't see what my mistakes, or lack thereof, has to do with calling "MPOE-PR" a Negative PR account or the contents of this thread for that matter.

If you can provide objective logs of conversations in the past, feel free to do so. I don't have the incentive to look them up though.
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July 25, 2013, 02:50:56 AM
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Sorry i posted before on a wrong post. I thought this post was CLOSED, please change the term for something that doesnt read as closed thread.
i have 1489 shares on S.DICE-PT, when does the final dividend payment will be paid, is this an automatic proccess, or i have to request it on some site?

Thanks, same user on litecoinglobal.

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2013-07-20 00:01:51    1489    Ł 0.10836428a    Ł 161.35441292
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July 25, 2013, 02:53:47 AM
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Sorry i posted before on a wrong post. I thought this post was CLOSED, please change the term for something that doesnt read as closed thread.
i have 1489 shares on S.DICE-PT, when does the final dividend payment will be paid, is this an automatic proccess, or i have to request it on some site?

Thanks, same user on litecoinglobal.

Wait on deadterra to return from his vacation Wink
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