[DSH] Dashcoin (Cryptonote) UPDATE: New source/wallets+GUI - 1.0.10

[slb]

We have good trade volume at Cryptopia. We survived Poloniex and I am certain we will survive HitBTC, if they want to delist. I hope that will not be the case and they will find time to fix the issue, which should be relatively easy.

The real issue is Minergate. They know their chain is worthless but they continue to mine on it. I do not really understand what is going on there and how they plan to give their users their DSH. Just to be clear - we offered them to cover their damage in terms of DSH shortly after the split. Now it's too late for this

Hi new to the forum.
Ive been mining dsh through minergate for the past month or so.
Would you recommend that i stop and use something else?
I noted today on there website this comment appeared
a38kefir:shoppi"minergate will state a comment this month about the situration, and probably cashout all Dashcoins and shut down mining on it."
 
what do you recommend for mining?

Make sure they are letting you to cash out on the correct fork, not on their worthless fork. If they let you cashout on the double spendable chain they are stealing your DSH. Literally. They can generate billions of coins out of thin air on their fork.
Minergate are aware about the problem since 13 April (they integrated fix for Monero and Bytecoin), they got a separate fix for DSH since 9 May, and they get notified about the double spending less than 24 hours after it occurred on their chain

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[Miki77]

they got a separate fix for DSH since 9 May

Maybe they did it with intention. Maybe some people from "true dash" paid for that.

Anyway, why network to slow?

[slb]

they got a separate fix for DSH since 9 May

Maybe did it with intention. Maybe some people from "true dash" paid for that.

Anyway, why network to slow?

Combination of not enough stable hashrate + nicehash miners.
List of the pools known to me:
http://dsh.mypool.name
http://democats.org/pool/?name=dashcoin

[slb]

Minergate just released a statement:
https://minergate.com/blog/statement-on-dashcoin-mining-and-withdrawals/

[colni]

Sooooo they are keeping on the same blockchain but patching it?
So will dsh have a fork for minergate, how could that be traded?

[Miki77]

As much I can see, there will be two blockchain:

Original Dashcoin blockchain

and

MinerGate Dashcoin blockchain

MinerGate is completely joke.

[slb]

Every experience matters. There will be a need for replay attack protection

Edit: I contacted cryptopia to pause their wallet until we have the issue with replay attack resolved.

[arielbit]

I just want this to be clear...minergate is keeping their blockchain because there are already "many" mined coins in their fork?(since the security patch issue)....like they don't like people to lose "that" many coins?

being accountable for that amount of coins is so problematic that they decided to keep their fork...

so how many dashcoins are on the wrong chain (assuming there were no creation of coins that happened from the security issue) are we talking about? any estimates? anybody?

[slb]

I just want this to be clear...minergate is keeping their blockchain because there are already "many" mined coins in their fork?(since the security patch issue)....like they don't like people to lose "that" many coins?

being accountable for that amount of coins is so problematic that they decided to keep their fork...

so how many dashcoins are on the wrong chain (assuming there were no creation of coins that happened from the security issue) are we talking about? any estimates? anybody?

On 24 May 2017 there were 17,600,000 DSH double spent on Minergate's chain. Actual DSH, not atomic units. I have not loaded their chain after this initial calculation, I guess there are a lot more now

[arielbit]

I just want this to be clear...minergate is keeping their blockchain because there are already "many" mined coins in their fork?(since the security patch issue)....like they don't like people to lose "that" many coins?

being accountable for that amount of coins is so problematic that they decided to keep their fork...

so how many dashcoins are on the wrong chain (assuming there were no creation of coins that happened from the security issue) are we talking about? any estimates? anybody?

On 24 May 2017 there were 17,600,000 DSH double spent on Minergate's chain. Actual DSH, not atomic units. I have not loaded their chain after this initial calculation, I guess there are a lot more now

what I mean is... i'm trying to figure out how many coins were mined since they became a "fork"....can we replace those coins so they can give that to the miners who mined in good faith and will not receive coins (from the right chain) because their chain is wrong.

I'm not trying to figure out how many double spent that happened.

[arielbit]

We have good trade volume at Cryptopia. We survived Poloniex and I am certain we will survive HitBTC, if they want to delist. I hope that will not be the case and they will find time to fix the issue, which should be relatively easy.

The real issue is Minergate. They know their chain is worthless but they continue to mine on it. I do not really understand what is going on there and how they plan to give their users their DSH. Just to be clear - we offered them to cover their damage in terms of DSH shortly after the split. Now it's too late for this

what do you mean by this? why is it too late? many coins are already mined that the people "we" who offered DSH cannot cover the amount of coins since it took too long?

how many DSH you people offered? how many minergate wanted(if they wanted it..i don't know)?

[slb]

We have good trade volume at Cryptopia. We survived Poloniex and I am certain we will survive HitBTC, if they want to delist. I hope that will not be the case and they will find time to fix the issue, which should be relatively easy.

The real issue is Minergate. They know their chain is worthless but they continue to mine on it. I do not really understand what is going on there and how they plan to give their users their DSH. Just to be clear - we offered them to cover their damage in terms of DSH shortly after the split. Now it's too late for this

what do you mean by this? why is it too late? many coins are already mined that the people "we" who offered DSH cannot cover the amount of coins since it took too long?

how many DSH you people offered? how many minergate wanted(if they wanted it..i don't know)?

They said their damage is 10000 DSH, we offered them 20000. The reply after was they have too much tech difficulties to roll back. That was 1 or 2 days after the split. Their next offer was to join their chain, but at the time there was already 17000000 DSH double spent on their chain.

Now their damage purely because of mining is between 150000 and 200000 DSH, and they cannot simply roll back because it will damage too much reputation

[arielbit]

We have good trade volume at Cryptopia. We survived Poloniex and I am certain we will survive HitBTC, if they want to delist. I hope that will not be the case and they will find time to fix the issue, which should be relatively easy.

The real issue is Minergate. They know their chain is worthless but they continue to mine on it. I do not really understand what is going on there and how they plan to give their users their DSH. Just to be clear - we offered them to cover their damage in terms of DSH shortly after the split. Now it's too late for this

what do you mean by this? why is it too late? many coins are already mined that the people "we" who offered DSH cannot cover the amount of coins since it took too long?

how many DSH you people offered? how many minergate wanted(if they wanted it..i don't know)?

They said their damage is 10000 DSH, we offered them 20000. The reply after was they have too much tech difficulties to roll back. That was 1 or 2 days after the split. Their next offer was to join their chain, but at the time there was already 17000000 DSH double spent on their chain.

Now their damage purely because of mining is between 150000 and 200000 DSH, and they cannot simply roll back because it will damage too much reputation

the way i see it, is that they are not going to roll back....it is not just the damage (150k - 200k DSH), it is also about reputation...

the chain that will win is the chain the exchanges will support (that's where the money is)...any info on this? are the exchanges on the right chain?

[slb]

We have good trade volume at Cryptopia. We survived Poloniex and I am certain we will survive HitBTC, if they want to delist. I hope that will not be the case and they will find time to fix the issue, which should be relatively easy.

The real issue is Minergate. They know their chain is worthless but they continue to mine on it. I do not really understand what is going on there and how they plan to give their users their DSH. Just to be clear - we offered them to cover their damage in terms of DSH shortly after the split. Now it's too late for this

what do you mean by this? why is it too late? many coins are already mined that the people "we" who offered DSH cannot cover the amount of coins since it took too long?

how many DSH you people offered? how many minergate wanted(if they wanted it..i don't know)?

They said their damage is 10000 DSH, we offered them 20000. The reply after was they have too much tech difficulties to roll back. That was 1 or 2 days after the split. Their next offer was to join their chain, but at the time there was already 17000000 DSH double spent on their chain.

Now their damage purely because of mining is between 150000 and 200000 DSH, and they cannot simply roll back because it will damage too much reputation

the way i see it, is that they are not going to roll back....it is not just the damage (150k - 200k DSH), it is also about reputation...

the chain that will win is the chain the exchanges will support (that's where the money is)...any info on this? are the exchanges on the right chain?

Cryptopia is on Democats' chain (with no double spending), Hitbtc will probably be on Minergate's chain

[arielbit]

We have good trade volume at Cryptopia. We survived Poloniex and I am certain we will survive HitBTC, if they want to delist. I hope that will not be the case and they will find time to fix the issue, which should be relatively easy.

The real issue is Minergate. They know their chain is worthless but they continue to mine on it. I do not really understand what is going on there and how they plan to give their users their DSH. Just to be clear - we offered them to cover their damage in terms of DSH shortly after the split. Now it's too late for this

what do you mean by this? why is it too late? many coins are already mined that the people "we" who offered DSH cannot cover the amount of coins since it took too long?

how many DSH you people offered? how many minergate wanted(if they wanted it..i don't know)?

They said their damage is 10000 DSH, we offered them 20000. The reply after was they have too much tech difficulties to roll back. That was 1 or 2 days after the split. Their next offer was to join their chain, but at the time there was already 17000000 DSH double spent on their chain.

Now their damage purely because of mining is between 150000 and 200000 DSH, and they cannot simply roll back because it will damage too much reputation

the way i see it, is that they are not going to roll back....it is not just the damage (150k - 200k DSH), it is also about reputation...

the chain that will win is the chain the exchanges will support (that's where the money is)...any info on this? are the exchanges on the right chain?

Cryptopia is on Democats' chain (with no double spending), Hitbtc will probably be on Minergate's chain

changelly delisted DSH.. how about chainradar? are they on the right chain?

will update the OP after things get a bit more clear for me..

[Miki77]

how about chainradar? are they on the right chain?

Original Dashcoin blocks: 762722

Minergate Dashcoin blocks: 781184

Chainradar Dashcoin blocks: 781136

Check block 781135 on minergate and chainradar, they are the same.

[slb]

Anybody knows which chain HitBTC will choose?

[M.minor]

Last year is more animated with the current one. Broaching.Science and technology has a greater impact on things, and art - on psychology

[M.minor]

It was great to understand about the plans and the news-Dashcoin.

[slb]

Yesterday Minergate twitted this:
https://twitter.com/MinerGate/status/884727210388500480

There is no better time to contact HitBTC and telling them what you think about introducing millions of double spent DSH into the system. Nobody will protect YOUR coins but you. Act wisely.