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November 24, 2015, 09:18:45 AM
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well, i think not just a app owner are a bit affected by this. even as the investor is also affected by it. well we shall wait and see how it progress.
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November 24, 2015, 11:42:53 AM
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well, i think not just a app owner are a bit affected by this. even as the investor is also affected by it. well we shall wait and see how it progress.

That is right i know its a crazy thing to say but there are times that im planning to do what is best to my mp investment wether to widthraw or to stay and wait to see how the new owners handles the site.
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November 24, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
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.............................................it definitely does look like the site will sell

to be frank we are happy for you Ryan but not for us (JPR team) as app owners

Just because hes selling doesnt mean the new owners will cut out all apps. We gotta wait n see what happens i suppose but i think there will be some unhappy ppl

I did not say that the new owners will be bad or harmful for MP apps. I just said that we know what we had with Ryan as the owner of MP and we can't know what we will get if he sells MP. we as app owners have no say and need to wait and see Smiley

btw what is your opinion regarding my posting about the featured apps handling. you as an app owner should have also interest in a fair handling or am I wrong?



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November 25, 2015, 07:32:13 AM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

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November 25, 2015, 07:47:45 AM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

just for info we did not get any PM (maybe we are to small and not of interest)

to be frank we had big hope that you would be somehow involved in a team of a possible new owner of MP.

you really could have waited with your posting and clarification because now
our hope is gone Sad


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November 25, 2015, 09:42:31 AM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

just for info we did not get any PM (maybe we are to small and not of interest)

to be frank we had big hope that you would be somehow involved in a team of a possible new owner of MP.

you really could have waited with your posting and clarification because now
our hope is gone Sad


Why wouly somebody who switches his site from btc to clam for legal reasons(missing out on huge potential profits) later go on to buy moneypot which uses btc?
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November 25, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

just for info we did not get any PM (maybe we are to small and not of interest)

to be frank we had big hope that you would be somehow involved in a team of a possible new owner of MP.

you really could have waited with your posting and clarification because now
our hope is gone Sad


Why would somebody who switches his site from btc to clam for legal reasons(missing out on huge potential profits) later go on to buy moneypot which uses btc?

Well he stated his opinion that dooglus to be somehow part of the new MP team. He had his point because dooglus is an icon of cryptocurrency gambling and a great coder. There is no harm in it I assume if he is taking his payment inform of clams instead and only helf with coding?

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November 25, 2015, 05:40:31 PM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).


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November 25, 2015, 05:56:01 PM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.
What lies did I say to anyone about you? I don't recall saying anything untrue about you. Wink
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November 25, 2015, 09:10:46 PM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).



Just curious about whats the state of the auction is? are you right now under the process of sorting potential owner through their history or are you still waiting for some bid from better person / team right now? either way its sad to see you let this baby slip through your hands

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November 25, 2015, 11:59:29 PM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).



Just curious about whats the state of the auction is? are you right now under the process of sorting potential owner through their history or are you still waiting for some bid from better person / team right now? either way its sad to see you let this baby slip through your hands

We're in a sort of limbo right now. My group is working on proving financials atm (I have already signed my own portion of it, just waiting for one person afaik). More will be shared when I know it.

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November 26, 2015, 02:03:07 AM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).



Just curious about whats the state of the auction is? are you right now under the process of sorting potential owner through their history or are you still waiting for some bid from better person / team right now? either way its sad to see you let this baby slip through your hands

We're in a sort of limbo right now. My group is working on proving financials atm (I have already signed my own portion of it, just waiting for one person afaik). More will be shared when I know it.
Shouldnt all the financials have been proved before making an offer? Seems like thats how it should be before making the conscious decision to buy a site as large as moneypot
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November 26, 2015, 02:46:27 AM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).



Just curious about whats the state of the auction is? are you right now under the process of sorting potential owner through their history or are you still waiting for some bid from better person / team right now? either way its sad to see you let this baby slip through your hands

We're in a sort of limbo right now. My group is working on proving financials atm (I have already signed my own portion of it, just waiting for one person afaik). More will be shared when I know it.
Shouldnt all the financials have been proved before making an offer? Seems like thats how it should be before making the conscious decision to buy a site as large as moneypot

There's no doubt that we have the finances (other parties are equally reputable). It's just that one appears to be a little illiquid (or was). I'm actually awaiting more information on this myself, Smiley.

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November 26, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).



Just curious about whats the state of the auction is? are you right now under the process of sorting potential owner through their history or are you still waiting for some bid from better person / team right now? either way its sad to see you let this baby slip through your hands

We're in a sort of limbo right now. My group is working on proving financials atm (I have already signed my own portion of it, just waiting for one person afaik). More will be shared when I know it.
Shouldnt all the financials have been proved before making an offer? Seems like thats how it should be before making the conscious decision to buy a site as large as moneypot

There's no doubt that we have the finances (other parties are equally reputable). It's just that one appears to be a little illiquid (or was). I'm actually awaiting more information on this myself, Smiley.

Since it seems that you are quite sure that your team might win this auction can you atleast state how many devs will be working on moneypot if your "team" win this? the more the better of course and it seems you are not really a coder?

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November 26, 2015, 07:01:19 PM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).



Just curious about whats the state of the auction is? are you right now under the process of sorting potential owner through their history or are you still waiting for some bid from better person / team right now? either way its sad to see you let this baby slip through your hands

We're in a sort of limbo right now. My group is working on proving financials atm (I have already signed my own portion of it, just waiting for one person afaik). More will be shared when I know it.
Shouldnt all the financials have been proved before making an offer? Seems like thats how it should be before making the conscious decision to buy a site as large as moneypot

There's no doubt that we have the finances (other parties are equally reputable). It's just that one appears to be a little illiquid (or was). I'm actually awaiting more information on this myself, Smiley.

Since it seems that you are quite sure that your team might win this auction can you atleast state how many devs will be working on moneypot if your "team" win this? the more the better of course and it seems you are not really a coder?

I'm not 100% sure if we'll win, but I do remain optimistic, :p. As for how many devs there are, I'm unsure, though we do have great plans for taking the site forward and will make it happen!

The only reason I started posting on behalf of this is to help put everyone's mind at ease. Not everyone is out there to screw others over. And the simple fact is that as of this second, NOTHING has changed so worrying is meaningless.

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November 26, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
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My main concern as an app owner is will the % change? I dont think many ppl will be interested in making apps for MP for any less of a %.

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November 26, 2015, 07:31:47 PM
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My main concern as an app owner is will the % change? I dont think many ppl will be interested in making apps for MP for any less of a %.

The auction process is still on-going, so I think it'll make sense to wait until we have a winner announced instead of speculating. That said, app owners are the life-blood of MP, so I doubt anyone is going to buy the app just to squeeze them.

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November 26, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
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My main concern as an app owner is will the % change? I dont think many ppl will be interested in making apps for MP for any less of a %.

The auction process is still on-going, so I think it'll make sense to wait until we have a winner announced instead of speculating. That said, app owners are the life-blood of MP, so I doubt anyone is going to buy the app just to squeeze them.

Yeah, I don't foresee this being an issue, either. It wouldn't make sense for someone to start alienating their userbase, as that would just result in a crash of the system and loss of investment money.

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November 26, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
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I'd just like to state that I am not bidding on MoneyPot, and am not part of any group that is.

It was brought to my attention that QuickSeller was PMing MoneyPot app owners spreading lies about me for whatever reason. Rest assumed I don't have any intention of buying MoneyPot. And as of last week's pevpot draw no longer even invest there.

I can confirm that Dooglus has never expressed any interest in buying MP or any of its apps, nor to the best of my knowledge even remotely involved with any group-bid. The only time Dooglus' name has ever even come up, is I've listed him as one of several escrow options I'd be willing to accept (although my preference is for 2-of-2 or 2-of-3 multisig).

And this is my first time hearing about the QuickSeller thing? I've got no idea what's happening there. Th only communication I've had with QuickSeller is that he (in private) helped me with some (primarily-blockchain) analysis on a MP bidder who I now believe was involved in a previous scam (so I obviously won't be selling to them).



Just curious about whats the state of the auction is? are you right now under the process of sorting potential owner through their history or are you still waiting for some bid from better person / team right now? either way its sad to see you let this baby slip through your hands

We're in a sort of limbo right now. My group is working on proving financials atm (I have already signed my own portion of it, just waiting for one person afaik). More will be shared when I know it.
Shouldnt all the financials have been proved before making an offer? Seems like thats how it should be before making the conscious decision to buy a site as large as moneypot

There's no doubt that we have the finances (other parties are equally reputable). It's just that one appears to be a little illiquid (or was). I'm actually awaiting more information on this myself, Smiley.

Since it seems that you are quite sure that your team might win this auction can you atleast state how many devs will be working on moneypot if your "team" win this? the more the better of course and it seems you are not really a coder?

I'm not 100% sure if we'll win, but I do remain optimistic, :p. As for how many devs there are, I'm unsure, though we do have great plans for taking the site forward and will make it happen!

The only reason I started posting on behalf of this is to help put everyone's mind at ease. Not everyone is out there to screw others over. And the simple fact is that as of this second, NOTHING has changed so worrying is meaningless.

It is not an easy task to continue where ryan left moneypot of. There are tons of things to do therefore Im personally begging ryan to select the team with better composition or qualified as coder for moneypot, not just someone who bid high on the auction

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November 27, 2015, 11:35:48 AM
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My main concern as an app owner is will the % change? I dont think many ppl will be interested in making apps for MP for any less of a %.

tl;dr Making MP apps is better than running a standalone investment site, so make moar apps!

Really, why do you think so? Under the assumption that you want investors in your casino (either you can't BR yourself or you don't want to due to the risk) I always come to the conclusion that it is better to create a MP app than to your run a standalone casino with investments.

Historically (thanks @NLNico) the overall average edge of MP has been 0.9351% and app owners got an 0.5128% edge which translated to 54.84% of the expected profits. That is higher than for example the 50% of expected profits that Pocket Rockets Casino [Ref, NonRef] takes, the bitcoin dice site with the highest commission that I know of. In my opinion, it is safe to assume that you won't get a lot of investments if you start your standalone site with 54% commission and furthermore you miss the opportunity to source MP's userbase. Consequently, I think that it is better to run an MP app instead of a standalone investment site and that would also be the case if the app commission was lower.


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