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August 22, 2012, 10:24:27 PM |
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Well as I said, if you are indeed very honnest, I will deeply apologize. And I appreciate the fact that you stay civilised even when accused I still dont understand why you did not make your topic with a big & trusted escrow so nobodies would have had any doubt of your legitimacy I'll do that last, just as a final show. I love keeping people in suspense and I want to teach people a lesson who are saying "Pirate is a scam because he's waiting". Those same people say "Matthew is a scam because he's waiting". If you had everyone bothering you, stalking you, harassing you, lying about you, wouldn't you want try to prove them wrong in a highly dramatic manner that makes them question the very foundation of their sick, pedantic reasoning? This whole business of Matthew's bet and Pireat's drama is more riveting than the casey anthony trial. This is high end entertainment here. If y'all could keep this shit up for the next couple of months I would really appreciate it. I'm not being facetious even.. People pay good money for this kind of shit. You need a publicity agent? Stern Lenno Colbert SNL! I see big things in your future!
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bitcoiners
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August 22, 2012, 11:39:01 PM |
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Sorry but Matthew has confirmed this is 100% or nothing. Nothing but FUD here.
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cAPSLOCK
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August 23, 2012, 03:16:49 AM |
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I will make a prediction as my fledgling "established" member post.
There will be so much confusion and disagreement concerning the outcome of this bet that few, and perhaps no payments will be made in either direction. Perhaps MW even intends this to be the whole point of the fiasco exercise.
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cAPSLOCK
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August 23, 2012, 03:20:27 AM |
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I will make a prediction as my fledgling "established" member post.
There will be so much confusion and disagreement concerning the outcome of this bet that few, and perhaps no payments will be made in either direction. Perhaps MW even intends this to be the whole point of the fiasco exercise.
^^^ You may be able to tell that though I am a new poster I have been a lurker long enough to be pretty jaded.
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Matthew N. Wright
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August 23, 2012, 03:37:18 AM |
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Matthew..
For the record..
Your contest is in very very poor taste..
Regardless of your intentions.. Its a poor time and very poor touchy subject to make a grandiose betting game on.
Plus your spamming of every thread about pirate about your "game/wager"
Its clear to me your trying to make a point, but its a dickhead way to go about it, and obviously you have some information your playing on.
Stop trying to take stupid peoples money..
They will soon part anyways, why be the dick that proves it.
Your image is worth more, no ?
Learn to PM.
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teflone
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August 23, 2012, 03:39:32 AM |
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Reached quota...
Does not work properly on my cell
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finkleshnorts
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August 23, 2012, 03:41:17 AM |
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I will make a prediction as my fledgling "established" member post.
There will be so much confusion and disagreement concerning the outcome of this bet that few, and perhaps no payments will be made in either direction. Perhaps MW even intends this to be the whole point of the fiasco exercise.
^^^ You may be able to tell that though I am a new poster I have been a lurker long enough to be pretty jaded. confirmed
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Matthew N. Wright
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August 23, 2012, 03:42:16 AM |
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Reached quota...
Does not work properly on my cell
lol fair enough mate
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August 23, 2012, 03:50:07 AM |
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Matthew..
For the record..
Your contest is in very very poor taste..
Regardless of your intentions.. Its a poor time and very poor touchy subject to make a grandiose betting game on.
Plus your spamming of every thread about pirate about your "game/wager"
Its clear to me your trying to make a point, but its a dickhead way to go about it, and obviously you have some information your playing on.
Stop trying to take stupid peoples money..
They will soon part anyways, why be the dick that proves it.
Your image is worth more, no ?
I disagree with this completely...MNW is actually providing a valuable hedging/price discovery opportunity for all involved. Now arbitrageurs can effectively short pirate debt to 50% par...injecting massive liquidity into the market for pirate debt. We would be much better off if he ran analysis and picked ROI for similar other events...alas shorting is misunderstood and vilified ("gentlemen don't trade puts" as they used to say in Chicago), and the concept of numeraire is lost to the world.
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bg002h
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August 23, 2012, 11:46:43 AM Last edit: August 23, 2012, 12:22:58 PM by bg002h |
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...My gut feeling tells me he is pissed that people called pirate a ponzi without proof and he would rather see people out put their money where their mouth is...
For the record I vote pirate is a pirate/ponzi. If not, he was very generous...or didn't realize there are cheaper ways to borrow money
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August 31, 2012, 01:04:02 AM |
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As I said to everyone in another post no one should pay Matthew a cent even if he does win the bet unless he can prove that he could cover the bet in the first place and if he cant prove he can cover the bet, he should be labelled scammer. The thing to remember is that Matthew is the editor an chief of Bitcoin Magazine. He and Bitcoin Magazine have a lot to loose if here if things turn out bad. A) he does not pay if he looses OR B) he does win and it turns out that he never had the money cover the wager in the first place.
Matthew I wish you luck here, there is a lot at stake and things are not looking in your favour at the moment.
Also, the original bet mentioned nothing about additional clauses as mentioned above. It was that pirate paid out everyone in full including interest as described in his original thread within 3 weeks. That is the bet I and everyone will be holding you to. None of this pay out 90% and investors accept crap. 100% plus interest or Matthew looses.
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unclescrooge
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August 31, 2012, 08:38:40 AM |
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As I said to everyone in another post no one should pay Matthew a cent even if he does win the bet unless he can prove that he could cover the bet in the first place and if he cant prove he can cover the bet, he should be labelled scammer. The thing to remember is that Matthew is the editor an chief of Bitcoin Magazine. He and Bitcoin Magazine have a lot to loose if here if things turn out bad. A) he does not pay if he looses OR B) he does win and it turns out that he never had the money cover the wager in the first place.
Matthew I wish you luck here, there is a lot at stake and things are not looking in your favour at the moment.
Also, the original bet mentioned nothing about additional clauses as mentioned above. It was that pirate paid out everyone in full including interest as described in his original thread within 3 weeks. That is the bet I and everyone will be holding you to. None of this pay out 90% and investors accept crap. 100% plus interest or Matthew looses.
He proved he owned 20706 btc -by moving them) back when he was betting "only" 20706 btc. I don't remember the bitcoin adress though.
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Vladimir
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September 01, 2012, 06:08:22 PM Last edit: September 01, 2012, 07:11:15 PM by Vladimir |
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If you had everyone bothering you, stalking you, harassing you, lying about you, wouldn't you want try to prove them wrong in a highly dramatic manner that makes them question the very foundation of their sick, pedantic reasoning?
There is no such thing as "sick, pedantic reasoning". [Are you going to call Pifagora theorem sick and pedantic too?] There are sound arguments and unsound arguments. There are valid arguments and invalid arguments. There are also people who are uneducated and more so unable or unwilling to learn and those who, when faced with undeniable argument crushing their silly hypothesis, are hiding in some disturbing psycho denial state and exhibiting symptoms of emotional withdrawal from the reality.
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September 01, 2012, 07:00:20 PM |
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If you had everyone bothering you, stalking you, harassing you, lying about you, wouldn't you want try to prove them wrong in a highly dramatic manner that makes them question the very foundation of their sick, pedantic reasoning?
There is no such thing as "sick, pedantic reasoning". [Are you going to call Pifagora theorem sick and pedantic too?] There are sound arguments and unsound arguments. There are valid arguments and invalid arguments. There are also people that are uneducated and more so unable or unwilling to learn and that, when faced with undeniable argument crushing their silly hypothesis, are hiding in some disturbing psycho denial state and exhibit symptoms of emotional withdrawal from reality. I would withdraw from reality if I just flushed 30k BTC down the toilet...
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556j
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September 01, 2012, 07:07:01 PM |
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He didn't flush it down the toilet. The guy that half the forums has on ignore was teaching us how to be more sociable.
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Cluster2k
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September 02, 2012, 02:41:38 AM |
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You know the old saying, if I owe the bank a thousand dollars it's my problem, if I owe the bank a million dollars it's the bank's problem. Right now Pirate has the power to dictate how much he's willing to pay back simply because many of his creditors are going to be desperate to get anything back. Is a 50% payback a default? Of course it is. It's not a 'hair cut', or 'easing of debt'. We've seen the same tricks applied with Greece (and soon Spain/Italy/etc) where there is massive pressure to take a huge loss to avoid triggering an actual default.
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