Vod is trying to trash my sales

[RoSeawolf]

Firstly i don't know who the hell is this guy and what's he done here
but to gave me negative to make me red here gets me angry
What the f... have we dealed to give me neg ?
have we done a deal and you have proof that i scammed you ?

And btw guys , how i can remove this neg ?




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[r3wt]

He is saying you are selling fake stuff

[RoSeawolf]

Also i can tell you that barack obamma robbed me but who will believe me if i don't have proofs , right ?
And how that 9 people who really bought from me didn't have any complain and now this guy come out.

[shorena]

Also i can tell you that barack obamma robbed me but who will believe me if i don't have proofs , right ?

Vods opinion has more weight here than that of others. You can discuss the topic with Vod personally or just accept it. Vod is the only one that can remove it.

[dogie]

Why did this get moved to meta? Seemed reasonably placed in scam accusations, in that it doesn't fit great in either.

[xuan87]

Also i can tell you that barack obamma robbed me but who will believe me if i don't have proofs , right ?

Vods opinion has more weight here than that of others. You can discuss the topic with Vod personally or just accept it. Vod is the only one that can remove it.

Try to convince him that you're selling legit things. Vod is well known as a scam buster here and many trust his judgement.

[Quickseller]

Why did this get moved to meta? Seemed reasonably placed in scam accusations, in that it doesn't fit great in either.

it is regarding trust left by vod and vod is in the default trust network.

[waterpile]

I think VoD works in microsoft, so pretty much that he knows selling those keys are illegal or its a waste of money buying it.

[Muhammed Zakir]

There have been problem with MSDN sales. Search in Meta and in Scam Accusations.

=snip=
What exactly is a MSDN Account ?

MSDN Offer you different benefits like free Azure VPS with $150 Credit per month till 1 year  and also on each account it's an amount of Retail keys for Microsoft Products (Windows 8.1,8,7, Office..etc...) &you will get a windows phone developer account too.

Can you please clarify? AFAIK it is used for development and testing. It can be sold only if you have license. Isn't it misleading?

[dothebeats]

Firstly i don't know who the hell is this guy and what's he done here
but to gave me negative to make me red here gets me angry
What the f... have we dealed to give me neg ?
have we done a deal and you have proof that i scammed you ?

And btw guys , how i can remove this neg ?




user profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747

You can leave someone a trust feedback even though you haven't deal with them in the past. And also, maybe Vod spotted something suspicious in your sales that's why he left you with such a feedback. He doesn't simply do that to users, he probably got his reasons before taking those actions. Might as well settle this with Vod and convince him to remove the negative feedback, but I don't think he would do it unless you've proven yourself as a legit seller and a trustworthy member of this forum.

[Muhammed Zakir]

You can leave someone a trust feedback even though you haven't deal with them in the past. And also, maybe Vod spotted something suspicious in your sales that's why he left you with such a feedback. He doesn't simply do that to users, he probably got his reasons before taking those actions. Might as well settle this with Vod and convince him to remove the negative feedback, but I don't think he would do it unless you've proven yourself as a legit seller and a trustworthy member of this forum.

Selling MSDN keys without license is against thier terms, so he can't prove he is legit. Another thing is, the keys he sold have chance to be disabled. It can also be disabled if he sell a key to more people.

So only way for feedback to get removed is by stopping the sale.

[Soros Shorts]

There have been problem with MSDN sales. Search in Meta and in Scam Accusations.

=snip=
What exactly is a MSDN Account ?

MSDN Offer you different benefits like free Azure VPS with $150 Credit per month till 1 year  and also on each account it's an amount of Retail keys for Microsoft Products (Windows 8.1,8,7, Office..etc...) &you will get a windows phone developer account too.

Can you please clarify? AFAIK it is used for development and testing. It can be sold only if you have license. Isn't it misleading?

No, depending on the level of your subscription you are also allowed production (non-test & development) use of certain types of Microsoft software included with the subscription. For example you are allowed to use one production copy of Office, Visio, Project, etc., if you have a higher subscription such as MSDN Premium or Ultimate. However, even if you are only allowed to use one copy of Office for production use, the subscription might come with 10 so called retail keys (which you can activate several times, unlike real retail keys), so in theory you could still use a legit subscription illegally. An example of this if you have an MSDN subscription from work and installed copies of Outlook on your work computer and your home computer (unless you were specifically using one copy for doing Outlook-related software development).

[RoSeawolf]

I think VoD works in microsoft, so pretty much that he knows selling those keys are illegal or its a waste of money buying it.

As soon as there is a lot of people who sell this , i assume that i can sell that too .
And since there isn't a RULE for not selling this keys , i am allowed to do that here
and SINCE i have 0 complains why this guys comes with a neg ?

You can leave someone a trust feedback even though you haven't deal with them in the past. And also, maybe Vod spotted something suspicious in your sales that's why he left you with such a feedback. He doesn't simply do that to users, he probably got his reasons before taking those actions. Might as well settle this with Vod and convince him to remove the negative feedback, but I don't think he would do it unless you've proven yourself as a legit seller and a trustworthy member of this forum.

Selling MSDN keys without license is against thier terms, so he can't prove he is legit. Another thing is, the keys he sold have chance to be disabled. It can also be disabled if he sell a key to more people.

So only way for feedback to get removed is by stopping the sale.

where do you see that i'm selling keys here ?
I'm selling only INVITES / ADMINS so from where did he thought that i have stealed that ?

[Muhammed Zakir]

No, depending on the level of your subscription you are also allowed production (non-test & development) use of certain types of Microsoft software included with the subscription. For example you are allowed to use one production copy of Office, Visio, Project, etc., if you have a higher subscription such as MSDN Premium or Ultimate. However, even if you are only allowed to use one copy of Office for production use, the subscription might come with 10 so called retail keys (which you can activate several times, unlike real retail keys), so in theory you could still use a legit subscription illegally. An example of this if you have an MSDN subscription from work and installed copies of Outlook on your work computer and your home computer (unless you were specifically using one copy for doing Outlook-related software development).

Thank you.

As soon as there is a lot of people who sell this , i assume that i can sell that too .
And since there isn't a RULE for not selling this keys , i am allowed to do that here
and SINCE i have 0 complains why this guys comes with a neg ?

You can still sell it.

where do you see that i'm selling keys here ?
I'm selling only INVITES / ADMINS so from where did he thought that i have stealed that ?

Don't they block accounts if they found you are selling invitations? If yes, wouldn't it also affect buyers?

[ABitNut]

They're using BizSpark MSDN accounts. Those are intended for start-up companies to get started with Microsoft products.

It's kind of the-first-shot-is-free marketing. If the start-up grows they may be hooked on Microsoft products and more likely to buy proper licences. However those accounts are widely abused, as demonstrated here.

[RoSeawolf]

No, depending on the level of your subscription you are also allowed production (non-test & development) use of certain types of Microsoft software included with the subscription. For example you are allowed to use one production copy of Office, Visio, Project, etc., if you have a higher subscription such as MSDN Premium or Ultimate. However, even if you are only allowed to use one copy of Office for production use, the subscription might come with 10 so called retail keys (which you can activate several times, unlike real retail keys), so in theory you could still use a legit subscription illegally. An example of this if you have an MSDN subscription from work and installed copies of Outlook on your work computer and your home computer (unless you were specifically using one copy for doing Outlook-related software development).

Thank you.

As soon as there is a lot of people who sell this , i assume that i can sell that too .
And since there isn't a RULE for not selling this keys , i am allowed to do that here
and SINCE i have 0 complains why this guys comes with a neg ?

You can still sell it.

where do you see that i'm selling keys here ?
I'm selling only INVITES / ADMINS so from where did he thought that i have stealed that ?

Don't they block accounts if they found you are selling invitations? If yes, wouldn't it also affect buyers?

1. I can still sell invites admins , but my heart is hurt when i receive this PM

2. If someone have problem with what i sold , i helped him to regain acces and both parts ( me and buyer ) are happy

[redsn0w]

My opinion/question:

Why everytime that there is a problem, someone will open a thread instead to try discussing with the other user through PM (personal message)? *just a general question, not regarding only with the OP but with all the users who have opened a thread here in this section.


Again : trust sistem is not moderated, and open a thread to argue the problem will only complicate more the situation.


Thanks for the attention.

[dogie]

Why everytime that there is a problem, someone will open a thread instead to try discussing with the other user through PM (personal message)? *just a general question, not regarding only with the OP but with all the users who have opened a thread here in this section.

To many people, retribution > resolution.

[RoSeawolf]

They're using BizSpark MSDN accounts. Those are intended for start-up companies to get started with Microsoft products.

It's kind of the-first-shot-is-free marketing. If the start-up grows they may be hooked on Microsoft products and more likely to buy proper licences. However those accounts are widely abused, as demonstrated here.

As you can see there are more member who sell this stuff and ME , i'm not selling keys or something else .
I'm selling my startup so it's not my bussines what the buyer do with keys
use or sell .

I am right ?

My opinion/question:

Why everytime that there is a problem, someone will open a thread instead to try discussing with the other user through PM (personal message)? *just a general question, not regarding only with the OP but with all the users who have opened a thread here in this section.


Again : trust sistem is not moderated, and open a thread to argue the problem will only complicate more the situation.


Thanks for the attention.

because he never respond to my pm , this is why

[redsn0w]

Why everytime that there is a problem, someone will open a thread instead to try discussing with the other user through PM (personal message)? *just a general question, not regarding only with the OP but with all the users who have opened a thread here in this section.

To many people, retribution > resolution.

I do not understand what do you mean with your "retribution > resolution."

....

My opinion/question:

Why everytime that there is a problem, someone will open a thread instead to try discussing with the other user through PM (personal message)? *just a general question, not regarding only with the OP but with all the users who have opened a thread here in this section.


Again : trust sistem is not moderated, and open a thread to argue the problem will only complicate more the situation.


Thanks for the attention.

because he never respond to my pm , this is why

If he didn't reply to your PM why should he reply to this thread?