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April 28, 2015, 09:10:36 PM
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When will the Sr become hero? How many months?

I counted potential activity to 574, so should be whenewer you make enought posts.

The number of different periods I posted in with this account is 41, period is approximately two weeks, 1-14 of a month and 15-end of a month. 41 periods * 14 activity is potential activity 574

Hi joemin,

Why dont you put your sr member to auction? I believe you can get higher offers (but not too much) than 0.25 BTC.

Since you can provide signed message for that account and its potential activity is over 570+ then you can sell it for better prices. Even if you dont have so much time , you can still try to sell it auction.

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April 28, 2015, 10:09:49 PM
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When will the Sr become hero? How many months?

I counted potential activity to 574, so should be whenewer you make enought posts.

The number of different periods I posted in with this account is 41, period is approximately two weeks, 1-14 of a month and 15-end of a month. 41 periods * 14 activity is potential activity 574

Hi joemin,

Why dont you put your sr member to auction? I believe you can get higher offers (but not too much) than 0.25 BTC.

Since you can provide signed message for that account and its potential activity is over 570+ then you can sell it for better prices. Even if you dont have so much time , you can still try to sell it auction.

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Well everyone is free to offer me any price or ask for more info here or via PM. I have two interested buyers at 0.25 BTC already though, funny but both dont have available BTC right now
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April 28, 2015, 10:11:49 PM
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Prices are very good, good luck with selling your accounts. However morally you should not sell the accounts to anyone with the negative trust. Its easy to take the money and go on with your life, but if there is someone with neutral or positive trust I would prefer to sell with them. People who have already scammed people will likely buy these new accounts to scam more people without being associated with the previous owner, because its a new account.

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April 28, 2015, 10:18:38 PM
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Prices are very good, good luck with selling your accounts. However morally you should not sell the accounts to anyone with the negative trust. Its easy to take the money and go on with your life, but if there is someone with neutral or positive trust I would prefer to sell with them. People who have already scammed people will likely buy these new accounts to scam more people without being associated with the previous owner, because its a new account.

This is true. Also, if the trusted members of the forum are able to recognize that the account is now in possession of a scammer/neg-rep user, they might give the account negative rep too, which would effectively make it near-worthless. Ethically it would make sense to sell it to someone who is willing to use the account for good and not to scam others.
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April 28, 2015, 10:20:49 PM
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Prices are very good, good luck with selling your accounts. However morally you should not sell the accounts to anyone with the negative trust. Its easy to take the money and go on with your life, but if there is someone with neutral or positive trust I would prefer to sell with them. People who have already scammed people will likely buy these new accounts to scam more people without being associated with the previous owner, because its a new account.

This is true. Also, if the trusted members of the forum are able to recognize that the account is now in possession of a scammer/neg-rep user, they might give the account negative rep too, which would effectively make it near-worthless. Ethically it would make sense to sell it to someone who is willing to use the account for good and not to scam others.
Exactly, the mods can compare the IP addresses between the 2 accounts and if they link it the new account is ruined as well, and now the account is trashed and worth nothing. The people here are very good at figuring out stuff, and if you are a scammer trying to scam with a new account, they WILL find out.

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April 29, 2015, 09:32:48 AM
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Prices are very good, good luck with selling your accounts. However morally you should not sell the accounts to anyone with the negative trust. Its easy to take the money and go on with your life, but if there is someone with neutral or positive trust I would prefer to sell with them. People who have already scammed people will likely buy these new accounts to scam more people without being associated with the previous owner, because its a new account.

I dont ever remember anyone in red asking to buy account. They might create new account or use some older not scammy account (or in green) to buy any of my account though.

Anyway, all I have is 14 Member accounts left with not used all potential activity, check my first post for more details.
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April 29, 2015, 11:25:44 AM
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Seller does not honor the terms of trade and disregards any agreements made. Even if you have agreed to buy for a fixed price, and ask for a short period to reserve the account to get the btcs, and even if the seller accepts, he will sell it to the highest bidder with no warning.

Buyers, negotiate with caution with this seller - he won't take you seriously unless you are ready to pay him right now.
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April 29, 2015, 05:05:05 PM
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Seller does not honor the terms of trade and disregards any agreements made. Even if you have agreed to buy for a fixed price, and ask for a short period to reserve the account to get the btcs, and even if the seller accepts, he will sell it to the highest bidder with no warning.

Buyers, negotiate with caution with this seller - he won't take you seriously unless you are ready to pay him right now.

When I approve trade terms to escrow I honour them.

In our conversation you asked more than once about reservation, and I promised you this:


I will need a couple days to get the BTCs, so if you could reserve the account, then that would be great!.

All I can do is if anybody want buy at 0.25 I will ask if you want buy at 0.26 or pass (you will have 24 hours if your offline or 1 Hour after you become active, whatever comes first).




Before you got BTC or arranged escrow, it is true I sold account to other buyer. I explained him the kind of reservation, and he offered he buys immediatelly at a price over 0.26 BTC + bunch of member accounts or he passes. Because your trade was far from sure, you reserved the right to not buy if you dont like the username, and technically I honoured our deal because he overpaid your reserved 0.26 BTC, I decided to sell. Also there were more buyers without BTC wanting buy at 0.25 BTC, and if I started moving the price up to them it could look fishy.
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April 29, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
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When I approve trade terms to escrow I honour them.

In our conversation you asked more than once about reservation:

I asked multiple times to make sure of our reservation deal, so there are multiple confirmations from you that we do indeed have a deal.


Before you got BTC or arranged escrow, it is true I sold account to other buyer. I explained him the kind of reservation, and he offered he buys immediatelly at a price over 0.26 BTC + bunch of member accounts or he passes. Because your trade was far from sure, you reserved the right to not buy if you dont like the username, and technically I honoured our deal because he overpaid your reserved 0.26 BTC, I decided to sell. Also there were more buyers without BTC wanting buy at 0.25 BTC, and if I started moving the price up to them it could look fishy.

Actually, you sold the account after I had arranged escrow with SebastianJu, you can ask him yourself for verification. All that was left was the remaining hours you had allowed me before I got the bitcoins and then we would have done our deal. Unfortunately, it seems like I was the only one who held their side of the bargain - I hustled and got the required bitcoins within 48 hours of our initial discussion, but after that effort, I found that you had already sold to another buyer what you promised to me. I did not reserve the right to end the purchase if I did not like the username because you said you did not promise that it would be something I liked.

What you should have done, if you were honest, is that you should have done what you said you would do and inform me of the higher bid, 24hours if I was offline and 1 hour if I was online before finalzing anything. You didn't. And to me, that is scammy behaviour.
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April 29, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
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When I approve trade terms to escrow I honour them.

In our conversation you asked more than once about reservation:

I asked multiple times to make sure of our reservation deal, so there are multiple confirmations from you that we do indeed have a deal.


Before you got BTC or arranged escrow, it is true I sold account to other buyer. I explained him the kind of reservation, and he offered he buys immediatelly at a price over 0.26 BTC + bunch of member accounts or he passes. Because your trade was far from sure, you reserved the right to not buy if you dont like the username, and technically I honoured our deal because he overpaid your reserved 0.26 BTC, I decided to sell. Also there were more buyers without BTC wanting buy at 0.25 BTC, and if I started moving the price up to them it could look fishy.

Actually, you sold the account after I had arranged escrow with SebastianJu, you can ask him yourself for verification. All that was left was the remaining hours you had allowed me before I got the bitcoins and then we would have done our deal. Unfortunately, it seems like I was the only one who held their side of the bargain - I hustled and got the required bitcoins within 48 hours of our initial discussion, but after that effort, I found that you had already sold to another buyer what you promised to me. I did not reserve the right to end the purchase if I did not like the username because you said you did not promise that it would be something I liked.

What you should have done, if you were honest, is that you should have done what you said you would do and inform me of the higher bid, 24hours if I was offline and 1 hour if I was online before finalzing anything. You didn't. And to me, that is scammy behaviour.




SebastianJu sent me the initial trade terms via PM after I informed you the account was sold.

Please, next time if you claim something, quote it. Here are your thoughts about username:



Okay, thats fine then. Also, the username but be appropriate should be a condition w/ the escrow. No numbers, no random letters. Preferably something brandable.


It is one word, but not english word, no random letters though. For personal use or signature campaigns it is ok.




And here is all more talk between us I remember about reservation topic



Alright, so I've finally found someone to purchase 0.25 BTCs from in my location with cash (took me all of today to try and contact him) and I will trade with him tomorrow, hopefully. He is a very busy man, but if all goes well, then I will have your 0.25 BTCs ready in under 24 hours, and I will have arranged the escrow (either SebJu or QuickSeller, depending on availability) also. I will contact you with the escrow and the bitcoins so that you can confirm the conditions for trading, and then we will complete the trade. I'm looking forward to doing business with you Smiley

Ok, one of my previous buyer got very interested and trying to get the BTC as well for this. Im not very happy about the situation I promised you some kind of reservation though, normally I sell to whoewer has the BTC first.

I have contacted both SebastianJu and QuickSeller about our trade, and we can use whichever one is online at the time of trade. QuickSeller says he's up for it, waiting on response from Seb whether he will escrow or not. Everything seems in order, I will talk to you tomorrow!
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April 29, 2015, 06:03:47 PM
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SebastianJu sent me the initial trade terms via PM after I informed you the account was sold.

Please, next time if you claim something, quote it.

But I had contacted him about it earlier to see if he was willing. I had notified you that I had contacted both him and Quickseller beforehand, so it should have been no surprise when you got his PM.


I asked if I had the right to deny if I didn't like the username, yo said:


So you will provide account info to me after the escrow confirms that they have received the payment, and then if I feel that something is wrong, I can get my btc back from the escrow at their discretion, right?

All I can do is if anybody want buy at 0.25 I will ask if you want buy at 0.26 or pass (you will have 24 hours if your offline or 1 Hour after you become active, whatever comes first).

I accept only BTC.

I basicaly provide the following terms from my selling thread and if I really falsely describing my account, you can complain to escrow and demand escrow judge based on evidence.



I would like to sell bunch of accounts:

1x 0.25 BTC Sr Member Account, Activity/Posts  270, most posts are good/normal quality, not used all potential activity, from 2012

I counted potential activity to 574. The number of different periods I posted in with this account is 41, period is approximately two weeks, 1-14 of a month and 15-end of a month. 41 periods * 14 activity is potential activity 574



I can sign message with old BTC address (from 2013) for all accounts.

No feedbacks, Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)

No loans, the accounts never asked for one.

You can choose trusted escrow who providing this service for at least half year.

All accounts have the same activity/posts, all accounts not used all potential activity.

Make offer or ask for more info if you are interested (here or PM).

Disclaimer: I editing this post regularly to keep the info accurate.


So you said you only promise what is in the thread, not that I would like the username...



And here is all more talk between us I remember about reservation topic



Alright, so I've finally found someone to purchase 0.25 BTCs from in my location with cash (took me all of today to try and contact him) and I will trade with him tomorrow, hopefully. He is a very busy man, but if all goes well, then I will have your 0.25 BTCs ready in under 24 hours, and I will have arranged the escrow (either SebJu or QuickSeller, depending on availability) also. I will contact you with the escrow and the bitcoins so that you can confirm the conditions for trading, and then we will complete the trade. I'm looking forward to doing business with you Smiley

Ok, one of my previous buyer got very interested and trying to get the BTC as well for this. Im not very happy about the situation I promised you some kind of reservation though, normally I sell to whoewer has the BTC first.

I have contacted both SebastianJu and QuickSeller about our trade, and we can use whichever one is online at the time of trade. QuickSeller says he's up for it, waiting on response from Seb whether he will escrow or not. Everything seems in order, I will talk to you tomorrow!

Thanks for posting that for me. Here, you clearly state that you have promised me a reservation deal, one that you did not stick to.


I don't have time for this arguing, but by posting the PMs, you have made it more clear for everyone to see our agreed terms and how you did not stick to your words. As such, I will reiterate my warning...

BUYERS BEWARE! Trade and negotiate with this user with EXTREME caution - he does not honor his promises and will sell to the highest idder ratehr than sticking to agreed terms!
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April 29, 2015, 09:45:14 PM
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I promised you some kind of reservation

Thanks for posting that for me. Here, you clearly state that you have promised me a reservation deal, one that you did not stick to.

As such, I will reiterate my warning...

BUYERS BEWARE! Trade and negotiate with this user with EXTREME caution - he does not honor his promises and will sell to the highest idder ratehr than sticking to agreed terms!




All my promise you got when we still did not agreed on final terms (still in deal stage):


All I can do is if anybody want buy at 0.25 I will ask if you want buy at 0.26 or pass (you will have 24 hours if your offline or 1 Hour after you become active, whatever comes first).


And first part never happened. Actually I got over 0.26 right away from somebody with BTC ready before I and you agreed on final terms provided to escrow. BTW this does not mean I promised to sell you at 0.26 BTC eighter.

Please bashing seller threads is not very kind behaviour especially when your warning looks like I do not honor my account promises from my first post, or honour terms of trade we both finally agree on.

I know some buyers are troublesome, I guess thats why I was unsure if you will be happy with the username.
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April 29, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
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Prices are very good, good luck with selling your accounts. However morally you should not sell the accounts to anyone with the negative trust. Its easy to take the money and go on with your life, but if there is someone with neutral or positive trust I would prefer to sell with them. People who have already scammed people will likely buy these new accounts to scam more people without being associated with the previous owner, because its a new account.

I dont ever remember anyone in red asking to buy account. They might create new account or use some older not scammy account (or in green) to buy any of my account though.

Anyway, all I have is 14 Member accounts left with not used all potential activity, check my first post for more details.
On the first page there is lots of people with red trust inquiring about this. I never said you had them actually being serious about giving you an offer but I was just warning you and hoping that you would not sell to ANYONE with scam or a possibility of scamming.

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April 29, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
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Prices are very good, good luck with selling your accounts. However morally you should not sell the accounts to anyone with the negative trust. Its easy to take the money and go on with your life, but if there is someone with neutral or positive trust I would prefer to sell with them. People who have already scammed people will likely buy these new accounts to scam more people without being associated with the previous owner, because its a new account.

I dont ever remember anyone in red asking to buy account. They might create new account or use some older not scammy account (or in green) to buy any of my account though.

Anyway, all I have is 14 Member accounts left with not used all potential activity, check my first post for more details.
On the first page there is lots of people with red trust inquiring about this. I never said you had them actually being serious about giving you an offer but I was just warning you and hoping that you would not sell to ANYONE with scam or a possibility of scamming.

There are 3 red trust people. At the posting time 2 of them didnt have red trust. They got red trust in a few days.

But definitely agree with you , I didnt think about it. However,If you specify it in the OP , then youre still in risk to sell a scammer. Since you can easily create a fresh account , you cannot really know whether account buyer is a scammer or not.
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April 29, 2015, 10:47:03 PM
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On the first page there is lots of people with red trust inquiring about this. I never said you had them actually being serious about giving you an offer but I was just warning you and hoping that you would not sell to ANYONE with scam or a possibility of scamming.

I do not selling to red trust scammers, but they can create new clear account anytime. I do not check buyer post history, just reviewing trust history if there looks something fishy, but unless trusted members give user negative feedback and make the user red trust scammer, it is not easy to judge because anybody can post negative feedback for whatever reason.

And anybody can turn to be scammer, even the most trusted users, for example TradeFortress, or just TF. So everyone has the possibility to be scammer.

If you ask whether I mark the account I sell to a buyer who turns out to be scammer later. My answer is no, because my accounts can be resold (and they are), so I have no idea who the sold accounts later belongs to.
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