Explosion at Zaventem airport in Brussels

[practicaldreamer]

Do you ? Do we ? What makes you say that ?

What is "western foreign policy in the middle east" ?

And what makes you say that it sucks ? And in what way do we "get that" ?


How would you, for example, explain this ?

we = broad majority of western public

There is no such broad majority.

western policy = toppling secular regimes in muslim countries

Western policy = occupying the middle east (+ various North African countries) in order to liberate it of its wealth. That this region subscribes to Islam is, in the first instance, neither here nor there.

your picture = that jewmerica turned iraq into a giant terrorist training camp when it overthrew its government and disbanded the army and police

My picture = you can't be a terrorist when you are aiming to liberate your own country from occupation, and the above graph should be viewed in that context.

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[J. J. Phillips]

how many more of these until people accept that it is time to deport muslims from europe?

It'll never happen. Europeans would rather die...literally die...than even say something bad about people who follow the violent teachings of a 7th century illiterate pedophile.

Fine. Let Europeans die.

But for fuck's sake, can we at least agree on *containing* this shit. If the population of where you live is <1% Muslim, fucking keep it that way. It's possible for people to keep the numbers low without needing to win votes. Just look into how Muslim countries keep their non-Muslim populations so low. Learn. Adapt.

PS: If you're a Muslim, fuck you.

[countryfree]

Wow! I was at that airport exactly one month ago. I didn't like it, there was no free wifi, but the seats were comfortable. I was in Paris shortly before and after the attacks last November, I guess it's dangerous everywhere, even with increased security. It's taking a bit longer to get to the gates.

It's a good time to travel though, last December in Paris, I got a rebate on my hotel room.

[Lethn]

When has that ever stopped them from wasting suicide bombers and fighters against civilians?

All muslims in the Europe support suicide bombers and terrorists?

All nazis in Germany supported the endlösung? No they didn't, just some. Is that change anything about the opinion about nazism?

It is fucking amazing that people seem to think that Islam should get a free pass from any sort of criticism even if there are people running around killing people in its name, how about you people defending this stop being such a bunch of cowards?

[practicaldreamer]

It is fucking amazing .... Islam ........ people running around killing people in its name.

Admit it - you haven't the slightest fuckin clue of whats happening here, or why. Do you ? No analysis at all. No insight. No political insight, no understanding of neo colonialism, of cultural imperialism, power relations, race relations, the Seven Sisters, the satellite/metropolis model, geo- political military strategy, nothing. Fuck all.

Admit it.

There's a bogeyman called Mohammed and he wants to eat your babies.

FFS

[Spendulus]

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My picture = you can't be a terrorist when you are aiming to liberate your own country from occupation, and the above graph should be viewed in that context.

Well, you are wrong.

First, because several warring tribal groups can each claim to be "liberating" the same country from "occupation."

In fact they are just all power hungry.

Second, because if the country is not "occupied" they'll just claim the current tyrant is in bed with the Evil Satan America, blah blah blaah and go on with their violence.

Third, because there never was anything wrong with an advanced Western culture going to a primative third world place and making a deal with a tribal chief or warlord for some of the local resources, which he didn't even value.  Then over some decades, the local people actually get some education, and start to understand things.  THAT'S when they want a bigger share for themselves. 

But the origin of the deal wasn't oppression.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

how many more of these until people accept that it is time to deport muslims from europe?

Lol deport them to where?

I'm really surprised there aren't more of these attacks.  I'm very happy there aren't more, don't get me wrong.  Or maybe I just don't watch the news enough.  9/11 was the worst I've seen, but I'm American so I'm biased.  It must be pure hell living in the Middle East.

[saddampbuh]

we = broad majority of western public
There is no such broad majority.

look at a poll sometime or are you one of those maoist third worldists who thinks everyone in the west is an evil class enemy exploiter

Western policy = occupying the middle east (+ various North African countries) in order to liberate it of its wealth. That this region subscribes to Islam is, in the first instance, neither here nor there.

what wealth, western nations are trillions in debt and being flooded by arab rats and north african niggers partly thanks to these wars that are waged for jewish interests and no other

My picture = you can't be a terrorist when you are aiming to liberate your own country from occupation, and the above graph should be viewed in that context.

they aren't liberating their country from anyone in libya or syria are they, these barbarians need to be kept in line by secular strongmen

[vero]

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the terrorist attacks, not that it wasn't already obvious that ISIS was responsible for these despicable Islamic terrorist attacks.

[bitbunnny]

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the terrorist attacks, not that it wasn't already obvious that ISIS was responsible for these despicable Islamic terrorist attacks.

Yes, it was and they have also announced that there will be more attacks. Now some are saying that this attacks could have been predicted and that some secret services have warned Belgium that this wil happen. Now this doesn't really matter, we are all aware that this attacks can happen anytime, anywhere and that we don't need any special warning. We just have to have or eyes and ears open, terrorism is a closed circle with no way out.

[MissionPhailed]

how many more of these until people accept that it is time to deport muslims from europe?

It'll never happen. Europeans would rather die...literally die...than even say something bad about people who follow the violent teachings of a 7th century illiterate pedophile.

This is mostly true, but note there's a significant difference between roughly western and central/eastern Europe. Countries like Germany, Sweden, Belgium and the Netherlands keep letting large amounts of muslims and other questionable immigrants in, thus choosing the highway to chaos and decay. Now, what happens if the percentage of muslims in a country increases even more ... ? Looking at Serbia gives one a rather clear and grim answer; this country fell apart during the 1990's due to muslims, with Serbian villages under attack and eventually the loss of large amounts of territory. Meanwhile, the Western media depicted the Serbians as evil monsters, murdering innocent muslims.

But now, multiple Western countries are beginning to see phenomena that reminds of those seen in Serbia in the 1990's; whole muslims communities are simply hostile towards local governments and society (with Molenbeek in Belgium as a grim example). More criminality, a larger economical burden and in worst cases terrorist attacks. France, Turkey, Belgium ... what country will be next to fall victim to terrorists ... ?

NOT countries like the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. Those countries are keen to keep (savage) immigrants away from their lands, fueled by a policy that's actually sane.

[practicaldreamer]

... there never was anything wrong with an advanced Western culture going to a primative third world place and making a deal with a tribal chief or warlord for some of the local resources, which he didn't even value.  Then over some decades, the local people actually get some education, and start to understand things.  THAT'S when they want a bigger share for themselves. 

LOL - they are, then, biting the hand that feeds them, so to speak  - you think Iraq and Saddam didn't understand what wealth they held. Fuckin hell - that has to be a joke, surely ?

This forum is going down the pan.


Anyhow, re. OP. We in Europe are on the frontline, wether we chose it or not - and my sincerest condolences go to all affected by this latest tragedy in Brussels. Stay strong.

[Spendulus]

... there never was anything wrong with an advanced Western culture going to a primative third world place and making a deal with a tribal chief or warlord for some of the local resources, which he didn't even value.  Then over some decades, the local people actually get some education, and start to understand things.  THAT'S when they want a bigger share for themselves. 

LOL - they are, then, biting the hand that feeds them, so to speak  - you think Iraq and Saddam didn't understand what wealth they held. Fuckin hell - that has to be a joke, surely ?

Don't be a fool.

think it out.

A western country or business makes a deal with a warlord in a tent, goes in and starts pulling oil out.  They pay the warlord.  Everyone gets a great deal. Fifty years later the local people now more educated, on Iphones now, think they should get a better deal.  They want a bigger share.  Maybe the guy keeping too much is their local warlord maybe it's the outside company.

Also don't forget, maybe those people are wrong, maybe they don't deserve a better deal. Everyone always wants more and more and more, but you only get what is reasonable profit on production.

The reason for the saying "biting the hands that feed them" is because hands that feed do get bitten.

[Zeke2345]

Are we still working off the crusades or is this just the sad state of humanity! We believe we have evolved yet this will most likely test that thinking.

Them vs. US still alive and kicking 2016.


Do we allow life to be dictated to us or do we stand up and fight!

[mikehersh2]

This is just insane... Ive had enough about hearing about this. Something must be done, and soon.

[Zeke2345]

This is just insane... Ive had enough about hearing about this. Something must be done, and soon.

Say we blame religion for people dying for a belief.
History shows religion never goes away and the issues never die. The day we convince people to stop following is the day we most likely stop breathing.
Islamic faith is a bit of the issue but we can break people off into groups. In the middle East a lot of rhe followers can not read or write, so you become easy to manipulate.
Those creating attacks in Europe ir abroad tend tobe more educated but often mentally unstable.
What better way to lash out at the world. Now people have a reason to hurt people.
You can not beat some one up and expect them to submit day after day, something eventually snaps.
So look at how a lot of these areas have been crapped on. Afghanistans history alone goes way back for being under seige.

We reap what we sew here and wait till Africa catches fire in the same fashion.

No quick answer.

[Spendulus]

This is just insane... Ive had enough about hearing about this. Something must be done, and soon.

Say we blame religion for people dying for a belief.
History shows religion never goes away and the issues never die. The day we convince people to stop following is the day we most likely stop breathing.
Islamic faith is a bit of the issue but we can break people off into groups. In the middle East a lot of rhe followers can not read or write, so you become easy to manipulate.
Those creating attacks in Europe ir abroad tend tobe more educated but often mentally unstable.
What better way to lash out at the world. Now people have a reason to hurt people.
You can not beat some one up and expect them to submit day after day, something eventually snaps.
So look at how a lot of these areas have been crapped on. Afghanistans history alone goes way back for being under seige.

We reap what we sew here and wait till Africa catches fire in the same fashion.

No quick answer.

How about i highlight the part of your wandering thoughts that appear to make sense.

[Zeke2345]

This is just insane... Ive had enough about hearing about this. Something must be done, and soon.

Say we blame religion for people dying for a belief.
History shows religion never goes away and the issues never die. The day we convince people to stop following is the day we most likely stop breathing.
Islamic faith is a bit of the issue but we can break people off into groups. In the middle East a lot of rhe followers can not read or write, so you become easy to manipulate.
Those creating attacks in Europe ir abroad tend tobe more educated but often mentally unstable.
What better way to lash out at the world. Now people have a reason to hurt people.
You can not beat some one up and expect them to submit day after day, something eventually snaps.
So look at how a lot of these areas have been crapped on. Afghanistans history alone goes way back for being under seige.

We reap what we sew here and wait till Africa catches fire in the same fashion.

No quick answer.

How about i highlight the part of your wandering thoughts that appear to make sense.

Yeah,caught me. If I post from my cell I tend to not see what I just wrote and I wander with my thinking.
This post was made with a few things being done in between.

[Spendulus]

This is just insane... Ive had enough about hearing about this. Something must be done, and soon.

Say we blame religion for people dying for a belief.
History shows religion never goes away and the issues never die. The day we convince people to stop following is the day we most likely stop breathing.
Islamic faith is a bit of the issue but we can break people off into groups. In the middle East a lot of rhe followers can not read or write, so you become easy to manipulate.
Those creating attacks in Europe ir abroad tend tobe more educated but often mentally unstable.
What better way to lash out at the world. Now people have a reason to hurt people.
You can not beat some one up and expect them to submit day after day, something eventually snaps.
So look at how a lot of these areas have been crapped on. Afghanistans history alone goes way back for being under seige.

We reap what we sew here and wait till Africa catches fire in the same fashion.

No quick answer.

How about i highlight the part of your wandering thoughts that appear to make sense.

Yeah,caught me. If I post from my cell I tend to not see what I just wrote and I wander with my thinking.
This post was made with a few things being done in between.

Interesting.

Makes one wonder if we had to write something out on paper before posting it, how different it would be.

I don't disagree with any of your comments but collectively they seem to express a sort of hopelessness.