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Question: [VOTE] Is there any chance the NSA already has control of bit coin?
No. They are not interested in crypto. - 1 (16.7%)
No. They are highly ethical and would not do that. - 0 (0%)
No. It is a conspiracy. - 0 (0%)
No. It is impossible. - 0 (0%)
Not sure. - 2 (33.3%)
They probably do. Bend over and enjoy it. - 2 (33.3%)
Yes but who cares. - 0 (0%)
Yes, so I look for more secure currencies. - 0 (0%)
Yes. They are protecting us though, so it's okay. - 1 (16.7%)
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April 24, 2015, 08:20:10 PM
Last edit: April 25, 2015, 01:02:32 AM by no-rice-peas
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A follow up from some other threads.

Curious about opinions.

Please no technical stuff like "x^17√31 proves such and such". It's too easy to bullshit with things others don't understand.

http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=15531

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/09/16/cryptographers_attack_nsa_s_secret_effort_to_subvert_internet_security.html
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April 24, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
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What kind of control?

They sure have budget to 51% the network, but that would be something that will ring bells everywhere.

They might be trying to submit code and infiltrate the development team like they do with other relevant open source projects but if code is properly reviewed it won't pass.

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April 24, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
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What kind of control?

They sure have budget to 51% the network, but that would be something that will ring bells everywhere.

They might be trying to submit code and infiltrate the development team like they do with other relevant open source projects but if code is properly reviewed it won't pass.

What kind of control might they want?

I mean mostly could it be an NSA project?
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April 25, 2015, 07:58:35 AM
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The code does exactly what it says it does, computer code is a set of instructions that the computer carries out - there are no secrets or backdoors - we have the code we can see exactly what it does. It really doesn't matter who wrote the first version of Bitcoin (Satoshi client) or who wrote the whitepaper - in fact, the original code has been more or less entirely rewritten now by the core developers.

There is very little evidence to suggest the NSA is behind it, and little motive, I could understand why the NSA would want to compromise something like bitcoin but I cannot see why they would want to start it. So it's just FUD.

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April 25, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
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This has been in the realm of speculation for long. Whoever started it, whatever be their motives, Bitcoin has acquired a soul of its own now. The source is open code and anybody can check/copy it.
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April 26, 2015, 11:14:25 AM
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Nobody controls the network or the Bitcoin protocol, NSA clear who is interested in cryptography, but until today nobody controls, the day that interests them and can scare us. I say mostly because the Quantum Computers.
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April 26, 2015, 11:18:49 AM
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Whether Bitcoin was created by NSA agents and/or with NSA technology is irrelevant.
Bitcoin is what it is and is not what it is not.
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April 26, 2015, 07:09:09 PM
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The code does exactly what it says it does, computer code is a set of instructions that the computer carries out - there are no secrets or backdoors - we have the code we can see exactly what it does. It really doesn't matter who wrote the first version of Bitcoin (Satoshi client) or who wrote the whitepaper - in fact, the original code has been more or less entirely rewritten now by the core developers.

There is very little evidence to suggest the NSA is behind it, and little motive, I could understand why the NSA would want to compromise something like bitcoin but I cannot see why they would want to start it. So it's just FUD.

If Sha256 were broken would Bitcoin be at risk?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120473.0
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