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April 27, 2015, 03:44:28 PM
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It should be noted that more than 90% of the anti-semitic attacks in Europe are being perpetrated by immigrants from the Maghreb and Asia, who are having Muslim background. If Jews migrate out of Europe, then these people will find new victims. And these new victims might be the European natives. Now where they will migrate to?

cite the source please. i strongly believe this is bullshit.

http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Anti-Semitic-violence-doubled-in-2009

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During the month of January 2009, in the midst of Operation Cast Lead, “Asian” and “Arab” attackers accounted for fully 54% of incidents, although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.

http://www.grasstopsusa.com/df092010.html

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Malmo Rabbi Shneur Kesselman says: “In the past five years I’ve been here, I think you can count on your hand how many (anti-Semitic) incidents there have been from the extreme right. In my personal experience, it’s 99% Muslim.” Jewish resident Marcus Eilenberg, whose survivor grandparents found shelter in Malmo in 1945, says Jews there are confronting “a degree of hate that none of us – except those who survived the Holocaust – had experienced before.”


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This trend of a growing baseline of “white” perpetrators alongside occasional spikes by attackers stemming from the Muslim community is borne out most clearly in the UK.
In 2008, “when there was no trigger event in the Middle East,” the Jewish community’s Community Security Trust counted 63% of perpetrators of anti-Jewish violence being described by victims and witnesses as “white,” while descriptions of “Asian” or “Arab” – suggesting members of the Muslim community – counted for just 31%.

In 2009, however, “white” attacks dropped to 48% and “Asian” or “Arab” attacks jumped to 43%.

During the month of January 2009, in the midst of Operation Cast Lead, “Asian” and “Arab” attackers accounted for fully 54% of incidents, although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.

Germany, Russia and the Ukraine do not seem to have been affected by the trend in the West, and may even have seen a decrease in incidents for 2009, the report found. It is unclear if the difference is real, or due to difficulties in discovering and reporting incidents.

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Malmo Rabbi Shneur Kesselman says: “In the past five years I’ve been here, I think you can count on your hand how many (anti-Semitic) incidents there have been from the extreme right. In my personal experience, it’s 99% Muslim.” Jewish resident Marcus Eilenberg, whose survivor grandparents found shelter in Malmo in 1945, says Jews there are confronting “a degree of hate that none of us – except those who survived the Holocaust – had experienced before.”[/b]

tbh i stopped reading there.




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funny that it doesnt seems to be possible to find real sources backing up your numbers.

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During the month of January 2009, in the midst of Operation Cast Lead, “Asian” and “Arab” attackers accounted for fully 54% of incidents, although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.

although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.


although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.


although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.

subhuman bring more muslim immigrants to rape my daughters self hating white should learn what per capita means

if muslims are carrying out half the attacks against jews while making up 4% of the population this makes their rate of offending more than 1000% that of europeans

its worth noting that none of the more successful nationalist groups the jews hate so much bother to physically attack them on the streets because they realise all it does is generate sympathy for them

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April 27, 2015, 04:34:27 PM
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If you read the article from The Atlantic in the OP, it's clear most of the danger to Jews in Europe is coming from Muslims. Here are some quotes from the article.

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But what makes this new era of anti-Semitic violence in Europe different from previous ones is that traditional Western patterns of anti-Semitic thought have now merged with a potent strain of Muslim Judeophobia. Violence against Jews in Western Europe today, according to those who track it, appears to come mainly from Muslims, who in France, the epicenter of Europe’s Jewish crisis, outnumber Jews 10 to 1.

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On the morning of March 19, 2012, a man named Mohamed Merah, a French citizen of Algerian descent, parked his motorbike in front of the entrance of a Jewish school in Toulouse called Ozar Hatorah, which is in a placid residential neighborhood not far from the city center. Merah, who had been radicalized in a French prison and trained in an al-Qaeda camp in Pakistan, dismounted and almost immediately began firing a 9 mm pistol at students and the parents who were dropping them off. He killed a 30-year-old rabbi and his two sons, who were 3 and 6 years old. Merah then walked into the schoolyard, shooting at students. He chased down an 8-year-old girl named Myriam Monsonego, catching her by the hair. Merah held her down and placed his 9 mm to her head, but the weapon jammed. He switched to another handgun, pressed it against her head, and fired. The sound of shooting had brought the school’s principal to the school yard. Yaacov Monsonego arrived to see Merah execute his daughter.

There are more details in the article about Muslim children in Toulouse who tell their parents not to go to a Jewish doctor.

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Like many of the banlieues that ring Paris, Montreuil bears no socioeconomic or aesthetic resemblance to the Paris of popular imagination. The architecture is rude, the parks are unkempt, and the people, many of them immigrants from North Africa, are estranged from la belle France. On the way to Montreuil, in the Métro, I passed defaced posters of the musician Lou Reed. Stars of David had been drawn on his nose. Other graffiti was less ambiguous: Nique les Juifs—“Fuck the Jews.”

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The students I talked with in the library generally agreed that their future lay outside of France. “A lot of the Muslims hate us here,” a student named Alexandre said. His parents had already moved to Israel. They were two of the roughly 7,000 French Jews who left for Israel in 2014. Alexandre would be joining them after graduation.

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The students talked about ways in which Jews concealed their identity. I’d heard that it had already become fairly common practice in some of the apartment blocks in the banlieues for Jews to remove the mezuzot from their doors. A mezuzah is a piece of parchment that contains Bible verses and that is placed in a case and then affixed to a doorpost. In some suburbs, mezuzot had become pointers for those in search of Jews to harm.

But the students told me something new. “Jewish people are telling other Jews to take down their mezuzot,” one of the students said. “People are being pressured to hide that they are Jewish. The pressure can be very intense.” The impetus for this new campaign seems to have been an incident that occurred in early December, in which a group of robbers broke into an apartment in Créteil. They told the occupants that they knew they were Jewish, and therefore wealthy, and then they raped a 19-year-old woman in the apartment.

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Malmö, which sits across the Øresund from Copenhagen, has a population of roughly 300,000. This includes a large number, perhaps 50,000 or so, of Muslim immigrants. The Jewish community is much smaller—by some estimates, there are fewer than 1,000 Jews; the population has dropped by half in recent years. Malmö’s leadership has at times been at odds with Malmö’s Jews. A former mayor said that the city accepts “neither Zionism nor anti-Semitism”—a statement that was taken as hostile by Jewish Swedes supportive of Israel’s existence.

Acts of anti-Jewish harassment and vandalism are common in Malmö, and Kesselman is a main target, because he is the only Jew there who still dresses in an identifiably Jewish manner—kippah, black hat, black coat, and long beard. Jewish teenagers in Malmö told me that wearing a Star of David necklace can incite a beating. Kesselman estimates that he has been the target of roughly 150 anti-Semitic attacks in his 10 years in the city, mainly verbal, but also physical. “There is a lot of cursing at me, and people sometimes throw bottles at me from their cars. Someone backed up their car in order to hit me,” he said when I met with him. Occasionally, he said, people spit on him.

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I spent one afternoon interviewing people in the main shopping mall of the Rosengård district, which is predominantly home to immigrants. Several of the Muslims I interviewed expressed benign feelings toward Jews. They knew of Malmö’s reputation for anti-Semitism, and regretted it. A couple of others expressed objections to Israel’s existence, but absolved “the Jews” of collective responsibility. But more common was conflation, and exaggeration. I asked several people to tell me where they find information about Jews and Israel. Television stations such as Al Jazeera and the Hezbollah station, Al‑Manar, were cited, as was the preaching of Scandinavian imams. One Danish imam, Abu Bilal Ismail, became famous last year for urging worshippers in a Berlin mosque to kill Jews: “Count them and kill them to the very last one. Don’t spare a single one of them.” He later explained to a Copenhagen newspaper that he “never meant all Jews.”

One man, an Iraqi refugee, told me, “The Jews have too much power everywhere.” Another man, of Sudanese background, explained that the Koran itself warns Muslims to fear double-crossing by Jews. “They killed the prophets and tried to poison the Prophet Muhammad,” he said. I did not hear critiques of Israel’s occupation policies. I heard, instead, complaints about the Jews’ baleful influence on the world.

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When I left, two policemen were patrolling the narrow street outside the museum. A temporary surveillance post had been erected just across from the entrance. I asked one of the officers whether this level of security was normal. He said the government had increased security around the museum last spring, shortly after a massacre at another Jewish site: On May 24, four people were murdered at the Jewish Museum of Belgium, in Brussels, allegedly by a French Muslim of jihadist bent named Mehdi Nemmouche. Two Israeli tourists, a French volunteer, and a Belgian employee of Muslim and Jewish descent were killed. Nemmouche had recently returned to Europe after a term with ISIS in Syria, where, according to a former French hostage of ISIS, his specialty was torturing prisoners.

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Valls is deliberate and—unusual for a French politician of the left—blunt in identifying the main culprits in the proliferation of anti-Jewish violence and harassment: Islamist ideologues whose anti-Semitic and anti-Western calumnies have penetrated the banlieues. But he goes further: France’s “new anti-Semitism” is also the product of what he understands to be a malicious sleight of hand on the part of Israel’s enemies to repackage anti-Semitism as anti-Zionism.

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According to the Community Security Trust, 2014 saw the highest number of anti-Semitic incidents in the United Kingdom, which is home to 300,000 Jews, since the organization began its monitoring efforts, in 1984: it recorded 1,168 anti-Semitic incidents. This is more than double the number of incidents in 2013, and exceeds the previous record, from 2009, of 931 incidents. In a recent survey conducted on behalf of the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism, a quarter of British Jews said they had considered leaving the country; more than half of those surveyed said they fear that Jews have no future in Great Britain.

Cameron condemned demonstrators who took out their frustrations with Israel on Europe’s Jews. I asked him whether there existed in his mind a bright line that separates anti-Zionism from anti-Semitism. He answered: “I think it is unfair and wrong to lay at the door of Jewish communities of Europe policies pursued by the government of Israel that people might not agree with—just completely wrong.”

He went on to say: “As well as the new threat of extremist Islamism, there has been an insidious, creeping attempt to delegitimize the state of Israel, which spills over often into anti-Semitism. We have to be very clear about the fact that there is a dangerous line that people keep crossing over. This is a state, a democracy that is recognized by the UN, and I don’t think we should be tolerant of this effort at delegitimization. The people who are trying to make the line fuzzy are the delegitimizers.”

Later in the article there are quotes from Marine Le Pen, the leader of France's National Front Party. They're often classified as a neo-Nazi party. I don't know enough about French politics to know to what extent that's true and to what extent it's propaganda. However, what is clear is that the National Front talks about defending Jews in France, and they don't deny who is the danger to Jews in France. To their credit, the mainstream French parties (including the ruling Socialists) did a good job of talking about defending Jews in France after the massacres in January. I tend to suspect this was partly out of fear that the French people might actually vote from the National Front.

If you are someone whose main goal is to prevent parties like the National Front from coming to power (rather than protecting Jews), then I can understand why you'd be dishonest about who is attacking Jews. It would make sense to try and blame it on "right-wingers" instead fo radical Muslims. It takes a real blindness to believe that the danger is actually from "right-wingers" instead of Muslims.

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Malmo Rabbi Shneur Kesselman says: “In the past five years I’ve been here, I think you can count on your hand how many (anti-Semitic) incidents there have been from the extreme right. In my personal experience, it’s 99% Muslim.” Jewish resident Marcus Eilenberg, whose survivor grandparents found shelter in Malmo in 1945, says Jews there are confronting “a degree of hate that none of us – except those who survived the Holocaust – had experienced before.”[/b]

tbh i stopped reading there.

I just wanted to point out that this Rabbi is discussed in the article in the OP, including in my quotes above. He's been subjected himself to approximately 150 attacks in the past 10 years, so he probably does have enough data to be able to approximate the percentage of attacks by Muslims vs. by the "extreme right".

I'm curious why you wouldn't be interested in the report of a Jewish Rabbi who's lived openly as a Jew in Malmo for a decade and directly experienced what's happened.

There are also quotes in the article about how Muslims in Malmo view Jews. Spoiler Alert: It isn't good.

Why is it important to you to mislead people about who is attacking Jews?

If Israel is destroyed, I will devote the rest of my life to the extermination of the human species. Any species that goes down this road again less than 100 years after the holocaust needs to be fucking wiped out.
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Malmo Rabbi Shneur Kesselman says: “In the past five years I’ve been here, I think you can count on your hand how many (anti-Semitic) incidents there have been from the extreme right. In my personal experience, it’s 99% Muslim.” Jewish resident Marcus Eilenberg, whose survivor grandparents found shelter in Malmo in 1945, says Jews there are confronting “a degree of hate that none of us – except those who survived the Holocaust – had experienced before.”[/b]

tbh i stopped reading there.

I just wanted to point out that this Rabbi is discussed in the article in the OP, including in my quotes above. He's been subjected himself to approximately 150 attacks in the past 10 years, so he probably does have enough data to be able to approximate the percentage of attacks by Muslims vs. by the "extreme right".

I'm curious why you wouldn't be interested in the report of a Jewish Rabbi who's lived openly as a Jew in Malmo for a decade and directly experienced what's happened.

There are also quotes in the article about how Muslims in Malmo view Jews. Spoiler Alert: It isn't good.

Why is it important to you to mislead people about who is attacking Jews?

subjective opinions cant be taken as a factum. it doesnt work like this.
even if everything he says is true it is not possible to take that as the average picture of europe.

there are alot of problems in europe but mainly it is about wrong national policies regarding integration of immigrants and foreign policies.

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There's a lot of Jew hatred on this forum,  so I guess I should intice you to read it in a different way. Read this so you can masturbate while thinking about how dangerous Europe is for Jews in 2015. If you guys keep it up, maybe it'll be this dangerous in the rest of the places in the world that still allow Jews to live there. And then after that maybe you'll finally get what you want: a world free of Jews.

No there isn't, what there is are a bunch of anti-semites who have taken up residence on this forum and whenever the word "Jew" is mentioned or you make a topic like this you will have the exact same users spamming about Zionism, it's ridiculous how there are people on the internet who even in this day and age think that a few users spamming this bullshit automatically think that the spammed view represents the view of the whole forum.

Just to show you that there is an actual pattern here because of the Charlie Hebdoe attack we had a bunch of Christians trying to spam shit about Muslims, I was some of the many users promptly reminding them that all religion is as fucked up as Islam, in their own unique way.
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There's a lot of Jew hatred on this forum,  so I guess I should intice you to read it in a different way. Read this so you can masturbate while thinking about how dangerous Europe is for Jews in 2015. If you guys keep it up, maybe it'll be this dangerous in the rest of the places in the world that still allow Jews to live there. And then after that maybe you'll finally get what you want: a world free of Jews.

No there isn't, what there is are a bunch of anti-semites who have taken up residence on this forum and whenever the word "Jew" is mentioned or you make a topic like this you will have the exact same users spamming about Zionism, it's ridiculous how there are people on the internet who even in this day and age think that a few users spamming this bullshit automatically think that the spammed view represents the view of the whole forum.

Just to show you that there is an actual pattern here because of the Charlie Hebdoe attack we had a bunch of Christians trying to spam shit about Muslims, I was some of the many users promptly reminding them that all religion is as fucked up as Islam, in their own unique way.

By "spamming about Zionism" do you mean people arguing that the Jews should have their own nation in their historic homeland so they have a refuge from places around the world where they're persecuted? I haven't seen that. If you mean posting things against Zionism, I've seen a lot of that. Look at the topics on the front page of the Politics & Society subforum.

I'm not a Christian and not a fan of Christianity, but Christians are not doing anything comparable to the Charlie Hebdo massacre in the name of their religion. Look how Christians responded to Piss Christ or any number of other anti-Christian art. Probably if they'd responded like Muslims responded to Charlie Hebdo, there'd be a lot less anti-Christian art. Most anti-Christian artists pick Christianity as a target because the artists are cowards.

But there's nothing good to be done about things like the massacre over the Muhammed cartoons. The future of France, like most of Europe, is Muslim. People won't be allowed to criticize Islam. That's the future the French, like most of Europe, have chosen. Every time there is an event like Charlie Hebdo (or Theo van Gogh's killing, etc.) some Europeans briefly speak up, other Europeans tell them to shut-up-racist because there isn't a problem it's just right-wing-propaganda, and the repressive Islamic future of Europe becomes more certain. It makes me glad I don't live there, but Canada is moving the same direction.

If Israel is destroyed, I will devote the rest of my life to the extermination of the human species. Any species that goes down this road again less than 100 years after the holocaust needs to be fucking wiped out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Affair_of_the_Gang_of_Barbarians
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Malmo Rabbi Shneur Kesselman says: “In the past five years I’ve been here, I think you can count on your hand how many (anti-Semitic) incidents there have been from the extreme right. In my personal experience, it’s 99% Muslim.” Jewish resident Marcus Eilenberg, whose survivor grandparents found shelter in Malmo in 1945, says Jews there are confronting “a degree of hate that none of us – except those who survived the Holocaust – had experienced before.”[/b]

tbh i stopped reading there.

I just wanted to point out that this Rabbi is discussed in the article in the OP, including in my quotes above. He's been subjected himself to approximately 150 attacks in the past 10 years, so he probably does have enough data to be able to approximate the percentage of attacks by Muslims vs. by the "extreme right".

I'm curious why you wouldn't be interested in the report of a Jewish Rabbi who's lived openly as a Jew in Malmo for a decade and directly experienced what's happened.

There are also quotes in the article about how Muslims in Malmo view Jews. Spoiler Alert: It isn't good.

Why is it important to you to mislead people about who is attacking Jews?

subjective opinions cant be taken as a factum. it doesnt work like this.
even if everything he says is true it is not possible to take that as the average picture of europe.

there are alot of problems in europe but mainly it is about wrong national policies regarding integration of immigrants and foreign policies.

I suppose European countries could do more to collect statistics on the ethnic make-up of those who attack Jews. I wonder why they don't. Actually, I think it's obvious why they don't.

If Israel is destroyed, I will devote the rest of my life to the extermination of the human species. Any species that goes down this road again less than 100 years after the holocaust needs to be fucking wiped out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Affair_of_the_Gang_of_Barbarians
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April 28, 2015, 04:54:14 AM
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People are not born with a jew-hating gene.  Hate is learned from contact with jew haters.  It is essentially an oral tradition.  At least that is the theory that I'm working on.

And for many that contact comes early in life. Young children taught by teachers in Palestinian schools to hate the jew.

And what does it have to do with Europe and Jews feeling uncomfortable there. I'd say we have 5 times more Jews in Europe than Palestinians and I doubt the continent has become more dangerous than it was for instance 80 years ago.

It's relevant to the post I replied to.

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April 28, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
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Just to show you that there is an actual pattern here because of the Charlie Hebdoe attack we had a bunch of Christians trying to spam shit about Muslims, I was some of the many users promptly reminding them that all religion is as fucked up as Islam, in their own unique way.
La de da de da.

Here comes the moral equivalency argument.

Odd how it comes after continual, striking ONE SIDED violence isn't it?  Odd how the actual facts destroy the argument of moral equivalency.

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace
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2015.04.27 (Bayda, Libya) - Six journalists are found with their throats slit months after being taken by the Islamic State.
2015.04.27 (Nineveh, Iraq) - Two are stoned to death for adultery as children look on.
2015.04.27 (Mekran, Pakistan) - Three Shiites are shot to death by Sunnis while waiting for a bus.
2015.04.26 (Noor-ul-Huda, Afghanistan) - A cleric who opposed violent extremism is quickly dispatched by fundamentalist bombers.
2015.04.24 (Bultaram, Nigeria) - Twenty-one civilians carrying food are massacred by Boko Haram outside their village.
2015.04.24 (Alingar, Afghanistan) - Four women are among five family members wiped out by a Taliban rocket.

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April 28, 2015, 06:27:04 PM
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Just to show you that there is an actual pattern here because of the Charlie Hebdoe attack we had a bunch of Christians trying to spam shit about Muslims, I was some of the many users promptly reminding them that all religion is as fucked up as Islam, in their own unique way.
La de da de da.

Here comes the moral equivalency argument.

Odd how it comes after continual, striking ONE SIDED violence isn't it?  Odd how the actual facts destroy the argument of moral equivalency.

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

2015.04.27 (Bayda, Libya) - Six journalists are found with their throats slit months after being taken by the Islamic State.
2015.04.27 (Nineveh, Iraq) - Two are stoned to death for adultery as children look on.
2015.04.27 (Mekran, Pakistan) - Three Shiites are shot to death by Sunnis while waiting for a bus.
2015.04.26 (Noor-ul-Huda, Afghanistan) - A cleric who opposed violent extremism is quickly dispatched by fundamentalist bombers.
2015.04.24 (Bultaram, Nigeria) - Twenty-one civilians carrying food are massacred by Boko Haram outside their village.
2015.04.24 (Alingar, Afghanistan) - Four women are among five family members wiped out by a Taliban rocket.

Well, let's be fair here. I recently heard a Christian woman in Indiana said she wouldn't serve a pizza at a gay wedding. To a lot of people, that's way worse than throat-cutting, stoning to death, shooting to death, bombing, massacres and rocket attacks.

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April 28, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
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Well, let's be fair here. I recently heard a Christian woman in Indiana said she wouldn't serve a pizza at a gay wedding. To a lot of people, that's way worse than throat-cutting, stoning to death, shooting to death, bombing, massacres and rocket attacks.

So someone who wouldn't serve a pizza at a gay wedding is way worse than a bunch of throat slitting jihadist.
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April 29, 2015, 12:54:50 PM
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Here in the country i live there are some powerful entrepreneurs Jews who emigrated here decades ago, and do you know why i know them? cause they are part of a global child-porn and prostitution network, one is currently on prison but all the rest are still free without charges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Succar_Kuri
And the other one , google "kamel nacif" to see his face, it seems like that race is very dangerous to the society when they have power or/and money.
So probably that's WHY nobody likes them.

Hi. Can you provide a source to support "Kamel Nacif" and/or "Jean Succar Kuri" being Jewish? Not that two particular Jews with money connected to child-prostitution would prove anything about Jews in general, but I found it odd that neither of their Wikipedia pages mentioned it.

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April 29, 2015, 12:56:01 PM
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And stop talking about stupid groups created by the CIA like the jihadists, they are not "natural" ...

This gave me a good laugh. I didn't know the CIA was around in 630. Those bastards must go back a long way.

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April 29, 2015, 01:19:10 PM
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Here in the country i live there are some powerful entrepreneurs Jews who emigrated here decades ago, and do you know why i know them? cause they are part of a global child-porn and prostitution network, one is currently on prison but all the rest are still free without charges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Succar_Kuri
And the other one , google "kamel nacif" to see his face, it seems like that race is very dangerous to the society when they have power or/and money.
So probably that's WHY nobody likes them.

Hi. Can you provide a source to support "Kamel Nacif" and/or "Jean Succar Kuri" being Jewish? Not that two particular Jews with money connected to child-prostitution would prove anything about Jews in general, but I found it odd that neither of their Wikipedia pages mentioned it.

They are both from Lebanon as wiki says, and emigrated after WW2, when Jews declared the State of Israel they started to kick out and rob Muslims from their lands, so in the Muslim countries they did the same with the remaining Jews on their lands like Irak,Sirya etc, so obviously all the people who fleed from Muslim controlled countries including Lebanon; were Jews! . On those lands there were only Muslims and Jews, and Muslims never abandon their religion like that, those scumbags i cited have never dress clothes on their head like Arabs..

Wait. Jews were robbed of their land and kicked out of Muslim countries after Israel declared independence? Why don't I ever hear about that? Maybe I'd hear more about it if there were a series of plane hijackings and suicide bombings to bring attention to it.

I did a google search on both their names with "Jew" and with "Jewish" and couldn't find anything. You should start a website letting the world know they're Jewish. Or embed it in the block chain so it can't be deleted by sneaky Jews.

Just to be clear: I have no idea if either or both of them are Jewish. They might be, or they might not be. It doesn't prove anything about Jews in general.

Are you sure you don't just think they're Jews because they're rich and connected to child prostitution? And that fits your preconception of Jews?

Obviously lots of non-Jews from the middle east have moved to western countries in the last 70 years. Not all of them, ahem, "dress clothes on their head like Arabs" when they're in the west.

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April 29, 2015, 01:29:11 PM
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And stop talking about stupid groups created by the CIA like the jihadists, they are not "natural" ...

This gave me a good laugh. I didn't know the CIA was around in 630. Those bastards must go back a long way.

What's 630?

630 was the year Muhammed and his merry band of Jihadis finally conquered Mecca. They demonstrated their tolerance of other religions by declaring there is only one god and destroying the idols of the other religions. Non-Muslims have never seen it since. (But don't call it apartheid!)

But really I could've chosen any year from 623 to 630. Here's a page about Muhammed's battles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

Here's a battle where Jihadis killed about a hundred Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar

At the end, though, they made a peace treaty with the Jews, proving Islam is all about peace. Here were the conditions:

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The Jews of Khaybar finally surrendered and were allowed to live in the oasis on the condition that they would give one-half of their produce to the Muslims. ... The imposition of tribute upon the conquered Jews served as a precedent for provisions in the Islamic law requiring the exaction of tribute known as jizya from non-Muslims under Muslim rule, and confiscation of land belonging to non-Muslims into the collective property of the Muslim community.

Maybe this could form the outline of a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians?

Of course, since the CIA "created" jihadis, I guess you can explain how the CIA obtained Zionist time travel technology and travelled back in order to help Mohammed and his jihadis in their conquest of Mecca. Why would the CIA and the Zionists do this? Well, the oil, obviously. And maybe heroin or something.

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April 29, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
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And stop talking about stupid groups created by the CIA like the jihadists, they are not "natural" ...

This gave me a good laugh. I didn't know the CIA was around in 630. Those bastards must go back a long way.

What's 630?

630 was the year Muhammed and his merry band of Jihadis finally conquered Mecca. They demonstrated their tolerance of other religions by declaring there is only one god and destroying the idols of the other religions. Non-Muslims have never seen it since. (But don't call it apartheid!)

But really I could've chosen any year from 623 to 630. Here's a page about Muhammed's battles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

Here's a battle where Jihadis killed about a hundred Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar

At the end, though, they made a peace treaty with the Jews, proving Islam is all about peace. Here were the conditions:

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The Jews of Khaybar finally surrendered and were allowed to live in the oasis on the condition that they would give one-half of their produce to the Muslims. ... The imposition of tribute upon the conquered Jews served as a precedent for provisions in the Islamic law requiring the exaction of tribute known as jizya from non-Muslims under Muslim rule, and confiscation of land belonging to non-Muslims into the collective property of the Muslim community.

Maybe this could form the outline of a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians?

Of course, since the CIA "created" jihadis, I guess you can explain how the CIA obtained Zionist time travel technology and travelled back in order to help Mohammed and his jihadis in their conquest of Mecca. Why would the CIA and the Zionists do this? Well, the oil, obviously. And maybe heroin or something.

Well i miss typed, i wanted to say, Islamic State, CIA funded and helped al-qaeda who later transformed into ISIS..

And even in the old times, when the first Jihad (Holy War) was declared was because the first Crusaders were killing many Muslims,  how would you name a war against someone who wants to exterminate your religion??..  Wink

Holy shit. Now the first Crusaders were around in the early 7th century. Those time travelling CIA agents have been busy!

Read some history. There are certainly things to criticize about the Crusades, but they were a response to Muslim conquests of what was then Christian lands. Maybe if modern Christians went did a lot of suicide bombings and plane hijackings to demand their land back more people would know about this.

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April 29, 2015, 01:54:59 PM
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Well so what else can they be? if they don't look like Muslims, they don't assist to a mosque, they don't act like Muslims.
Maybe currently they don't even practice Jewish religion and have another God besides money and power, the thing is that everyone know they are Jewish, they both are from Lebanon, migrated in the time when most Jews migrated on those areas. We are not in the court, so its your problem if you don't believe they are not Jews.

Well, I can't argue with that. Are you sure you're not a Jew yourself? In my experience only Jews are capable of making such intelligent rational arguments.

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April 29, 2015, 03:16:37 PM
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Bye, and i saw your signature and you look only like some kind of religious fanatic, a waste of time talking with you.

Yeah, this wasn't nearly as interesting as most of my duels with Nazis on these threads. Anyway, enjoy your life as a Jew hating conspiracy theoriest living in the only third-world shithole in North America.

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