Bitcoin Forum
December 05, 2016, 08:31:59 AM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.13.1  [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 [2] 3 4 5 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Illegal business over bitcoin  (Read 9504 times)
PabloW
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 229


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 12:49:05 AM
 #21

OK, so how do you stop child pornography?

Just like crime itselft its obviously unstoppable, but there ways to at least decrease them in some percentage. Something is better than nothing, dont you think?

That's not really an answer. How would you decrease it? What something would you do?

I mean, if you regulate the money you can know when people is using it for child pornography, so in that way you at least decrease SOME of it. With no regulations it would be easier than ever to do it, and also a lot of another illegal stuff that can be much worse even than that
1480926719
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480926719

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480926719
Reply with quote  #2

1480926719
Report to moderator
1480926719
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480926719

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480926719
Reply with quote  #2

1480926719
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1480926719
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480926719

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480926719
Reply with quote  #2

1480926719
Report to moderator
1480926719
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1480926719

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1480926719
Reply with quote  #2

1480926719
Report to moderator
sortedmush
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 126


The geek shall inherit the earth.


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 12:50:34 AM
 #22

I mean, if you regulate the money you can know when people is using it for child pornography

How?
error
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 574



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 12:51:33 AM
 #23

If you regulate the money, you end up with a system that looks much like today's world financial system. Designed for the benefit of the regulators and utterly unworkable in the long-term for the rest of us. This is not an acceptable outcome.

15UFyv6kfWgq83Pp3yhXPr8rknv9m6581W
JohnDoe
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 392



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 02:18:57 AM
 #24

What about child pornography. Do you think it should be someones opinion if its right or wrong? I think we all can agree this is wrong, and well also against the law. Without any controls over this dirty type business and all the anonymity of bitcoins, how could we control this kind of stuff.

What if there were extremely poor children that would much prefer posing naked for money than dying from starvation? Wouldn't it be immoral to deny them their right to work?
billyjoeallen
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 966


Hide your women


View Profile WWW
May 29, 2011, 02:24:39 AM
 #25

OK, so how do you stop child pornography?

don't make any and don't buy any.

insert coin here:
1Ctd7Na8qE7btyueEshAJF5C7ZqFWH11Wc

Open an exchange account at CampBX: options, lowest commissions, and best security
https://campbx.com/register.php?r=0Y7YxohTV0B
error
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 574



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 02:25:08 AM
 #26

OK, so how do you stop child pornography?

don't make any and don't buy any.

I don't. But that doesn't mean a niche market won't exist. I just won't be in it.

15UFyv6kfWgq83Pp3yhXPr8rknv9m6581W
PabloW
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 229


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 02:45:12 AM
 #27

What about child pornography. Do you think it should be someones opinion if its right or wrong? I think we all can agree this is wrong, and well also against the law. Without any controls over this dirty type business and all the anonymity of bitcoins, how could we control this kind of stuff.

What if there were extremely poor children that would much prefer posing naked for money than dying from starvation? Wouldn't it be immoral to deny them their right to work?

Ok I guess then Ill start my own child pornoghraphy site right now.

Stupid questions get stupid answers.


I really agree with mostly everything that bitcoins concept says. I also know theres no such thing as a perfect system wher everything works alright, its just how nature is, crazy and disturbed people exist. But well, we cant ignore its flaws.
Bitcoin is good for doing illegal stuff without being noticed, this is completely true. The question is, are we willing to sacrifice this for a better money system that could really change the world in a lot of forms? Most of you answered me YES. Im still not sure, you may be right, but maybe not. I guess it will be hard to find someone here in this forum who thinks the opposite Tongue
torbank
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 218


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 02:55:52 AM
 #28

Cash has the same problem.

Gold bars.

Bearer bonds.
kiba
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 980


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 02:59:20 AM
 #29

\


I really agree with mostly everything that bitcoins concept says. I also know theres no such thing as a perfect system wher everything works alright, its just how nature is, crazy and disturbed people exist. But well, we cant ignore its flaws.
Bitcoin is good for doing illegal stuff without being noticed, this is completely true. The question is, are we willing to sacrifice this for a better money system that could really change the world in a lot of forms? Most of you answered me YES. Im still not sure, you may be right, but maybe not. I guess it will be hard to find someone here in this forum who thinks the opposite Tongue

There is a difference between doing illegal things and doing bad things. Bad things are just bad. Sometime good things become illegal.

BitLex
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588


View Profile WWW
May 29, 2011, 03:03:25 AM
 #30

Quote
The question is, are we willing to sacrifice this for a better money system
no, that is not the question.
the question is, if you want to sacrifice control over your own money and let others decide, what you're able todo with it,
just to prevent some pervs from buying any stuff they want for the same form of money.

it's not that you would stop them from buying it anyway, if they can not pay in bitcoins, they'll pay in paper-dollars, or gold, or diamonds, or sea-shells, or whatever else,

THEY will still do it, but you ruined EVERYONES money.

smooth
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1246



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:04:02 AM
 #31

Bitcoin is good for doing illegal stuff without being noticed, this is completely true.

No, Bitcoin is good for paying for illegal stuff without getting noticed (as is, for example, cash).  You can still get caught doing the illegal stuff and be punished for it.

Payment systems are not the only way to do law enforcement, or even necessarily the best.  If there is a much more efficient way to do payment that don't happen to lend itself to law enforcement, society can spend some of that surplus on other types of law enforcement.  Maybe we end up with less child porn, or maybe we end up with slightly more child porn but the other benefits (increased economic growth, greater prosperity, less other types of crime, etc.) outweigh that cost.

We can't (and don't) make every single decision about how to organize that economy on the basis of which decision minimizes child porn.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_interests#Usage_to_circumvent_logical_debate
Lynzoi
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 60



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:06:02 AM
 #32

Child pornography can be stopped by educating children. When I was young I was taught about inappropriate photographs and everything. The sale of it can't really be stopped though, even if there are no photos involved, it will be drawn. I think this is true both in the current economy, and the hypothetical future economy.

1HX4zSn3yQpVH3v9Sv5TNwMqbfXoBbMuNf
PabloW
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 229


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:08:20 AM
 #33

Great answers, thanks for all who responded seriously Smiley
billyjoeallen
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 966


Hide your women


View Profile WWW
May 29, 2011, 03:11:04 AM
 #34

OK, so how do you stop child pornography?

don't make any and don't buy any.

I don't. But that doesn't mean a niche market won't exist. I just won't be in it.

Lots of bad stuff happens and often things get even worse when well-intentioned people ignore the unintended consequences of their "help".
as contemptible and revolting as it is, there are worse things than a niche market in child pornography, TSA porno-scanners being just one example.

insert coin here:
1Ctd7Na8qE7btyueEshAJF5C7ZqFWH11Wc

Open an exchange account at CampBX: options, lowest commissions, and best security
https://campbx.com/register.php?r=0Y7YxohTV0B
JohnDoe
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 392



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:13:29 AM
 #35

Ok I guess then Ill start my own child pornoghraphy site right now.

Stupid questions get stupid answers.

I like the part where you explain how it was a stupid question. Are you saying that even if these hypothetical children chose to get naked voluntarily in exchange for food they can't do it because grown ups say so?
PabloW
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 229


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:14:17 AM
 #36

Ok I guess then Ill start my own child pornoghraphy site right now.

Stupid questions get stupid answers.

I like the part where you explain how it was a stupid question. Are you saying that even if these hypothetical children chose to get naked voluntarily in exchange for food they can't do it because grown ups say so?

yeh youre right, grown up sucks!!

oh shit, again?
someguy123
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 335


PHP Coder, Bitcoin enthusiast, Litecointalk admin


View Profile WWW
May 29, 2011, 03:22:47 AM
 #37

I agree with most people here, It's pointless trying to regulate the network, if you could, it'd destroy the point of bitcoin, decentralized, un-regulated, and anonymous.
If we stick a man in the middle to regulate it from child pornography, drug dealing, and other illegal things, that's bitcoin regulated, centralized, and definitely not anonymous. Pretty much destroys the entire point of bitcoin.

1SoMGuYknDgyYypJPVVKE2teHBN4HDAh3
Administrator/owner of LTC Forum | LTC Block Explorer | Someguy123 Web Development
JohnDoe
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 392



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:23:58 AM
 #38

yeh youre right, grown up sucks!!

oh shit, again?

Oh sorry, I thought I was dealing with someone who could eloquently defend his position. My bad.
bittrader
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 42



View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:27:51 AM
 #39

Flame fest!
PabloW
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 229


View Profile
May 29, 2011, 03:28:32 AM
 #40

yeh youre right, grown up sucks!!

oh shit, again?

Oh sorry, I thought I was dealing with someone who could eloquently defend his position. My bad.

yeh well, it sucks too
Pages: « 1 [2] 3 4 5 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!