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May 30, 2011, 11:58:50 PM
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Anyway, I've had enough politics for today; I'm logging off now. And, again, I'm not certainly saying that France is perfect (let's face it, suffering is everywhere in the world) -- merely that, all things considered, the data seems to show that it has a slightly better system than some other nations.

I'm just tired of people pointing at France like some sort of grand socialist success. Like... no. It's a country like any other, with a big, bloated government that sucks in a gigantic amount of resources from its economy in the name of the "greater good" and ends up redistributing something like 15 cents for each euro it eats.

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May 31, 2011, 03:56:09 AM
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Bitcoin is like sex, it is only wrong if it isn't consensual.

One off NP-Hard.
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May 31, 2011, 03:58:00 AM
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Bitcoin is like sex, it is only wrong if it isn't consensual.

Shouldn't that be true of everything?
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May 31, 2011, 04:11:58 AM
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The main point I am trying to get across is that the best way to combat for profit child pornography production is to legalize not for profit child porn distribution, and doing this will also result in lower amounts of child sex abuse by pedophiles, [...]
You're a pedophile or at least a sympathizer! I hope the forum admins will report your IP address to the authorities.

Of course I feel sympathy for people who are hunted down and ruined for having done nothing other than look at a picture. Go ahead and report me, I am behind 7 proxies bitch. But even if I was rabidly against paedophiles to the point of wanting to incarcerate them or kill them prior to them victimising anyone, I would be capable of seeing the logic in my argument. Legalized child porn distribution would lead to no financial incentive for production lowering child abuse rates, and several studies have shown pedophiles who use child pornography have lower rates of offending with a child which will also lead to lower production. Legalized child porn viewing and distribution leads to lower rates of child abuse for many reasons, it also lowers the budget of the FBI and prison industrial complex though.
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May 31, 2011, 04:17:38 AM
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What a load of crackpot libertarians. Anyone who doesn't think that government shouldn't have the right to regulate at least child porn has no respect from me, emotionally or intellectually.

Me either. Anyone who does not think that the government should not have the right to regulate child porn (other than production and such, but I am for private defense agencies anyway fuck government) has no respect from me, intellectually or emotionally.
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May 31, 2011, 04:38:27 AM
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Bitcoin is like sex, it is only wrong if it isn't consensual.

Shouldn't that be true of everything?

yes.  given the intellectual capacity to consent.

if you don't like it, don't do it.

and don't do anything to me.  i will return the favor - either way.
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May 31, 2011, 07:10:54 AM
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The problem is not with Bitcoin, the problem is that some asshole has made perfectly valid businesses illegal.

Hear, hear!  I never heard it put so eloquently.   Smiley

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May 31, 2011, 12:17:25 PM
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Of course I feel sympathy for people who are hunted down and ruined for having done nothing other than look at a picture. Go ahead and report me, I am behind 7 proxies bitch. But even if I was rabidly against paedophiles to the point of wanting to incarcerate them or kill them prior to them victimising anyone, I would be capable of seeing the logic in my argument. Legalized child porn distribution would lead to no financial incentive for production lowering child abuse rates, and several studies have shown pedophiles who use child pornography have lower rates of offending with a child which will also lead to lower production. Legalized child porn viewing and distribution leads to lower rates of child abuse for many reasons, it also lowers the budget of the FBI and prison industrial complex though.

I understand your argument; but isn't it the exact opposite of the argument that if we wanted to save the endangered bald eagle, we should start eating them?

If you legalise profitable business from child pornography, you will get more of it, not less of it.

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May 31, 2011, 03:48:30 PM
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If you're interested, this book is worth reading as a fairly decent overview of where I'm coming from: http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/resource/the-spirit-level

... and you might be interested in the thorough debunking of that book and its authors in this book http://spiritleveldelusion.blogspot.com/,
I don't want to seem too dogmatic, but for a debunking of the 'debunking': http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/resources/other/response-to-questions
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May 31, 2011, 11:07:16 PM
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Of course I feel sympathy for people who are hunted down and ruined for having done nothing other than look at a picture. Go ahead and report me, I am behind 7 proxies bitch. But even if I was rabidly against paedophiles to the point of wanting to incarcerate them or kill them prior to them victimising anyone, I would be capable of seeing the logic in my argument. Legalized child porn distribution would lead to no financial incentive for production lowering child abuse rates, and several studies have shown pedophiles who use child pornography have lower rates of offending with a child which will also lead to lower production. Legalized child porn viewing and distribution leads to lower rates of child abuse for many reasons, it also lowers the budget of the FBI and prison industrial complex though.

I understand your argument; but isn't it the exact opposite of the argument that if we wanted to save the endangered bald eagle, we should start eating them?

If you legalise profitable business from child pornography, you will get more of it, not less of it.


Profitable business from child pornography should stay illegal, but legalize not for profit child pornography that isn't related to production. Now nobody has a financial incentive to produce because their shit will just get put on a P2P network for anyone to download and nobody will risk getting a life sentence to pay for child porn when they can get free child porn with out any risk. That will totally dry up the financial incentive to produce child porn. Plus then more pedophiles will use child porn which has been shown to reduce their rate of offending with a child. So doing this reduces the amount of child sex abuse in two ways. The only people who get disadvantage are the prison industrial complex and the people who just hate pedophiles instead of hate sexual abuse. They just make pedophile be seen as equal to child abuser to hide the fact that they are just as bigoted as people who hate gays (although of course there is difference between being gay and being pedophile, one can have sex with out victim and the other can not. But a pedophile who doesn't have sex with children I have no problems with).
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May 31, 2011, 11:51:30 PM
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I've read all of this and I've been laughing all the way through because of the egos of some of the people on here. Then I also see the people who actually know what they're talking about and I smile because I'm with Bitcoin 'till the end. Illegal business happens everywhere. And no country can change that all together for now, not even some place with a tiny population that you think is so much better. Don't blame Bitcoin or and other money, it's the bad people who do the stuff, not the money or tool.


This is to people who don't like Bitcoin.
Why did you sign-up for an account on a Bitcoin site?
It's stupid to say you hate something that you are affiliated with.

Thank you!
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July 16, 2011, 07:24:02 PM
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The main point I am trying to get across is that the best way to combat for profit child pornography production is to legalize not for profit child porn distribution, and doing this will also result in lower amounts of child sex abuse by pedophiles, [...]
You're a pedophile or at least a sympathizer! I hope the forum admins will report your IP address to the authorities.

Of course I feel sympathy for people who are hunted down and ruined for having done nothing other than look at a picture. Go ahead and report me, I am behind 7 proxies bitch. But even if I was rabidly against paedophiles to the point of wanting to incarcerate them or kill them prior to them victimising anyone, I would be capable of seeing the logic in my argument. Legalized child porn distribution would lead to no financial incentive for production lowering child abuse rates, and several studies have shown pedophiles who use child pornography have lower rates of offending with a child which will also lead to lower production. Legalized child porn viewing and distribution leads to lower rates of child abuse for many reasons, it also lowers the budget of the FBI and prison industrial complex though.

That is completely retarded, how do you think they make child porn?

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