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May 02, 2015, 11:44:52 PM
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Do you see how that works? Most of what public read as "quotes from Satoshi Nakamoto" are not from me. All the technobabble is from Garzik or Gavin or other core devs. You can watch all those silly YouTube videos with Gavin pretending to be Satoshi. In most cases, the technobabble Satoshi is Gavin.
So are you suggesting that you did not write version 0.1 of the reference client and did not write the bitcoin whitepaper since that is technobabble?

I wrote the original protocol. It was more figurative and abstract. What the public knows as the "official" whitepaper is written by Gavin, Snowden, Garzik and those other tech-savvy early adopters. But if I recall, Garzik showed me his version bound as a book. I think it was his idea to make the whole thing a religious joke. The protocol, which they follow very closely, is in fact my baby.
So where can I find the original protocol? From what I understand, the first publicly available thing that described the protocol is the Bitcoin whitepaper posted on some mailing list.

Also, I checked out your profile. From the looks on your website, you don't have a background in cryptography, but you do have some in programming.


I only printed out 2 copies. This whole Bitcoin thing was just an assignment for World History class to come up with a decentrailized money system. We had to turn the paper in anonymously, so it was never my intention to be anonymous. The chancellor at Harding made me hand in a copy to Gavin, who was Head of Communications or something-like-that at Harding. The other copy I gave to Edward Snowden, but I think Carl Mark Force took it from him. This was back in 1998. So I don't have any copies.

I got the pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto out of a pile of papers in a box in the computer lab. Bitcoin was a last minute project.

Seriously, though, all you have to do is ask Gavin or Garzik. I think they'll deny it because they think they're protecting me, but they're not really doing me any favors at this point in Bitcoin's history.

And I'm not a cryptographer, but I do have some programming experience.
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May 02, 2015, 11:54:33 PM
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And thus, I can now call BULLSHIT!! (Of course, I should and could have done this much earlier)
Do you see how that works? Most of what public read as "quotes from Satoshi Nakamoto" are not from me. All the technobabble is from Garzik or Gavin or other core devs. You can watch all those silly YouTube videos with Gavin pretending to be Satoshi. In most cases, the technobabble Satoshi is Gavin.
So are you suggesting that you did not write version 0.1 of the reference client and did not write the bitcoin whitepaper since that is technobabble?

I wrote the original protocol. It was more figurative and abstract. What the public knows as the "official" whitepaper is written by Gavin, Snowden, Garzik and those other tech-savvy early adopters. But if I recall, Garzik showed me his version bound as a book. I think it was his idea to make the whole thing a religious joke. The protocol, which they follow very closely, is in fact my baby.
So where can I find the original protocol? From what I understand, the first publicly available thing that described the protocol is the Bitcoin whitepaper posted on some mailing list.

Also, I checked out your profile. From the looks on your website, you don't have a background in cryptography, but you do have some in programming.


I only printed out 2 copies. This whole Bitcoin thing was just an assignment for World History class to come up with a decentrailized money system. We had to turn the paper in anonymously, so it was never my intention to be anonymous. The chancellor at Harding made me hand in a copy to Gavin, who was Head of Communications or something-like-that at Harding. The other copy I gave to Edward Snowden, but I think Carl Mark Force took it from him. This was back in 1998. So I don't have any copies.

Seriously, though, all you have to do is ask Gavin or Garzik. I think they'll deny it because they think they're protecting me, but they're not really doing me any favors.

And I'm not a cryptographer, but I do have some programming experience.
what high school would allow you to turn in an assignment anonymously, how would you get a grade?

Snowden did not go to high school at Harding.

Seriously, name dropping? Complete and absolute BS

Stop trolling, Mr. Saelee.

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May 02, 2015, 11:56:57 PM
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And thus, I can now call BULLSHIT!! (Of course, I should and could have done this much earlier)
Do you see how that works? Most of what public read as "quotes from Satoshi Nakamoto" are not from me. All the technobabble is from Garzik or Gavin or other core devs. You can watch all those silly YouTube videos with Gavin pretending to be Satoshi. In most cases, the technobabble Satoshi is Gavin.
So are you suggesting that you did not write version 0.1 of the reference client and did not write the bitcoin whitepaper since that is technobabble?

I wrote the original protocol. It was more figurative and abstract. What the public knows as the "official" whitepaper is written by Gavin, Snowden, Garzik and those other tech-savvy early adopters. But if I recall, Garzik showed me his version bound as a book. I think it was his idea to make the whole thing a religious joke. The protocol, which they follow very closely, is in fact my baby.
So where can I find the original protocol? From what I understand, the first publicly available thing that described the protocol is the Bitcoin whitepaper posted on some mailing list.

Also, I checked out your profile. From the looks on your website, you don't have a background in cryptography, but you do have some in programming.


I only printed out 2 copies. This whole Bitcoin thing was just an assignment for World History class to come up with a decentrailized money system. We had to turn the paper in anonymously, so it was never my intention to be anonymous. The chancellor at Harding made me hand in a copy to Gavin, who was Head of Communications or something-like-that at Harding. The other copy I gave to Edward Snowden, but I think Carl Mark Force took it from him. This was back in 1998. So I don't have any copies.

Seriously, though, all you have to do is ask Gavin or Garzik. I think they'll deny it because they think they're protecting me, but they're not really doing me any favors.

And I'm not a cryptographer, but I do have some programming experience.
what high school would allow you to turn in an assignment anonymously, how would you get a grade?

Snowden did not go to high school at Harding.

Seriously, name dropping? Complete and absolute BS

Stop trolling, Mr. Saelee.


LOL. How hard have you researched? I lived 3 years in Charlotte, North Carolina. Are you telling me I don't know my own life? You only know what the media presents you, don't you?
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May 03, 2015, 12:06:38 AM
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LOL. How hard have you researched? I lived 3 years in Charlotte, North Carolina. Are you telling me I don't know my own life? You only know what the media presents you, don't you?
Enough to know that you're just spouting bullshit and making stuff up. Stop spreading FUD, both here, and wherever else you post this dumbass story and BS (e.g. the comments of this article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113710/satoshi-was-not-a-cryptographer-says-gavin-andresen)

What you claim about all the big names and early adopters of Bitcoin being at Harding in one place at the same time during 1998 is BS. At that point you're just name dropping to get attention.

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May 03, 2015, 12:09:08 AM
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LOL. How hard have you researched? I lived 3 years in Charlotte, North Carolina. Are you telling me I don't know my own life? You only know what the media presents you, don't you?
Enough to know that you're just spouting bullshit and making stuff up. Stop spreading FUD, both here, and wherever else you post this dumbass story and BS (e.g. the comments of this article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113710/satoshi-was-not-a-cryptographer-says-gavin-andresen)

What you claim about all the big names and early adopters of Bitcoin being at Harding in one place at the same time during 1998 is BS. At that point you're just name dropping to get attention.

OK, use some logic here. How did these "big names" get where they are now if they weren't privvy to it from the start? If you use Bitcoin, I really am hoping you have some good gumption. Think about how long it takes for only 1 or 2 people to write an entire piece of software, especially with limited funding.
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May 03, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
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LOL. How hard have you researched? I lived 3 years in Charlotte, North Carolina. Are you telling me I don't know my own life? You only know what the media presents you, don't you?
Enough to know that you're just spouting bullshit and making stuff up. Stop spreading FUD, both here, and wherever else you post this dumbass story and BS (e.g. the comments of this article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113710/satoshi-was-not-a-cryptographer-says-gavin-andresen)

What you claim about all the big names and early adopters of Bitcoin being at Harding in one place at the same time during 1998 is BS. At that point you're just name dropping to get attention.

OK, use some logic here. How did these "big names" get where they are now if they weren't privvy to it from the start? If you use Bitcoin, I really am hoping you have some good gumption. Think about how long it takes for only 1 or 2 people to write an entire piece of software, especially with limited funding.
Using logic, these people would know of Bitcoin because they were on the original mailing list where Satoshi published the whitepaper.

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May 03, 2015, 12:15:50 AM
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LOL. How hard have you researched? I lived 3 years in Charlotte, North Carolina. Are you telling me I don't know my own life? You only know what the media presents you, don't you?
Enough to know that you're just spouting bullshit and making stuff up. Stop spreading FUD, both here, and wherever else you post this dumbass story and BS (e.g. the comments of this article: http://cointelegraph.com/news/113710/satoshi-was-not-a-cryptographer-says-gavin-andresen)

What you claim about all the big names and early adopters of Bitcoin being at Harding in one place at the same time during 1998 is BS. At that point you're just name dropping to get attention.

OK, use some logic here. How did these "big names" get where they are now if they weren't privvy to it from the start? If you use Bitcoin, I really am hoping you have some good gumption. Think about how long it takes for only 1 or 2 people to write an entire piece of software, especially with limited funding.
Using logic, these people would know of Bitcoin because they were on the original mailing list where Satoshi published the whitepaper.

And... I was on that mailing list too. Why can't you connect that? It was when I was still using the satoshin@gmx.com email. Again, that "whitepaper" that was published on the mailing list wouldn't have been my original paper anymore. Gavin and company would have re-written it into a technical paper by then, which is what you come to know was the "public" whitepaper.
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May 03, 2015, 12:17:22 AM
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I sense you're trying to combat me. It just doesn't make any sense. You seem like a teabagger or overzealous person. If I can get Chris DeRose, Jeff Garzik, Gavin Andressen, Andreas Antonopolis, Jon Matonis, etc., to voucher for me, then will you be content? I bet even then, you'd still try to cut me down somehow. How's the Bitcoin tech you're so deeply involved in? Is it any good? Who created it?

You sense I'm trying to combat you, but what are you trying to do with me?

Would getting all these important people confirm your identity satisfy me? Yes, it would. But, with which purpose would you be doing it? Just so that I shut up, and you prove a point? Again, that seems out of character, considering the evidence of Satoshi Nakamoto's posts online.

Even the purpose of Bitcoin itself is not to “prove a point” at all, so why do you keep forcing this? Are you having fun with it?

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May 03, 2015, 12:19:36 AM
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I sense you're trying to combat me. It just doesn't make any sense. You seem like a teabagger or overzealous person. If I can get Chris DeRose, Jeff Garzik, Gavin Andressen, Andreas Antonopolis, Jon Matonis, etc., to voucher for me, then will you be content? I bet even then, you'd still try to cut me down somehow. How's the Bitcoin tech you're so deeply involved in? Is it any good? Who created it?

You sense I'm trying to combat you, but what are you trying to do with me?

Would getting all these important people confirm your identity satisfy me? Yes, it would. But, with which purpose would you be doing it? Just so that I shut up, and you prove a point? Again, that seems out of character, considering the evidence of Satoshi Nakamoto's posts online.

Even the purpose of Bitcoin itself is not to “prove a point” at all, so why do you keep forcing this? Are you having fun with it?

Y'know, there are some simple motivations in life. I just want credit. When you invent something this big, and people don't respect you, especially early adopters, why wouldn't you think it's a great offense?
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May 03, 2015, 12:25:08 AM
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Y'know, there are some simple motivations in life. I just want credit. When you invent something this big, and people don't respect you, especially early adopters, why wouldn't you think it's a great offense?

The real Satoshi Nakamoto would know how to receive credit properly.

Also, I'm not an early adopter, so you don't need to worry about me.

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May 03, 2015, 12:28:48 AM
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Y'know, there are some simple motivations in life. I just want credit. When you invent something this big, and people don't respect you, especially early adopters, why wouldn't you think it's a great offense?

The real Satoshi Nakamoto would know how to receive credit properly.

Also, I'm not an early adopter, so you don't need to worry about me.


You just claimed not to be an early adopter, yet you claim to know Satoshi Nakamoto really well. Trust me, you don't know me or the true backstory of Bitcoin. You can't get credit if the assignment is to turn in a paper with a pseudonym. Wow, this guy, not paying attention.
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May 03, 2015, 01:05:33 AM
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You just claimed not to be an early adopter, yet you claim to know Satoshi Nakamoto really well.

I'm sorry, you must be confused. I never claimed that I “knew Satoshi Nakamoto really well”. All my claims are based on his public posts on this forum.

Trust me, you don't know me or the true backstory of Bitcoin.

I certainly don't know you. That's true. It's just that all your story and dialog is incompatible with all the previous posts published under the handle of satoshi.


You can't get credit if the assignment is to turn in a paper with a pseudonym. Wow, this guy, not paying attention.

If your assignment required to be turned in under a pseudonym, how did it get graded?

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May 03, 2015, 01:17:05 AM
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You just claimed not to be an early adopter, yet you claim to know Satoshi Nakamoto really well.

I'm sorry, you must be confused. I never claimed that I “knew Satoshi Nakamoto really well”. All my claims are based on his public posts on this forum.

Trust me, you don't know me or the true backstory of Bitcoin.

I certainly don't know you. That's true. It's just that all your story and dialog is incompatible with all the previous posts published under the handle of satoshi.


You can't get credit if the assignment is to turn in a paper with a pseudonym. Wow, this guy, not paying attention.

If your assignment required to be turned in under a pseudonym, how did it get graded?

It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.
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May 03, 2015, 02:15:23 AM
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It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.

How did they know it was your paper, if you handed it under a pseudonym? (according to the assignment? I still find that hard to believe)

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May 03, 2015, 02:18:51 AM
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It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.

How did they know it was your paper, if you handed it under a pseudonym? (according to the assignment? I still find that hard to believe)

C'mon man, it's not completely impractical. I claimed it afterwards. Really, c'mon. If I didn't claim it, how would the chancellor know I wrote it and treat me all special and stuff. Also, it was one of the only papers with Asian pseudonym. There was like only 2 minorities in the class. Who else could it be?
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May 03, 2015, 02:26:40 AM
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It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.

How did they know it was your paper, if you handed it under a pseudonym? (according to the assignment? I still find that hard to believe)

C'mon man, it's not completely impractical. I claimed it afterwards. Really, c'mon. If I didn't claim it, how would the chancellor know I wrote it and treat me all special and stuff. Also, it was one of the only papers with Asian pseudonym. There was like only 2 minorities in the class. Who else could it be?

I still don't see the point on having to use a pseudonym as part of the assignment. What purpose did it serve for the class? Was it just for teh lulz? Or, if it wasn't, then asking for who wrote it afterwards would have been immoral.

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May 03, 2015, 02:29:09 AM
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It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.

How did they know it was your paper, if you handed it under a pseudonym? (according to the assignment? I still find that hard to believe)

C'mon man, it's not completely impractical. I claimed it afterwards. Really, c'mon. If I didn't claim it, how would the chancellor know I wrote it and treat me all special and stuff. Also, it was one of the only papers with Asian pseudonym. There was like only 2 minorities in the class. Who else could it be?

I still don't see the point on having to use a pseudonym as part of the assignment. What purpose did it serve for the class? Was it just for teh lulz? Or, if it wasn't, then asking for who wrote it afterwards would have been immoral.
It's Eastfist trolling you.

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May 03, 2015, 02:30:02 AM
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It's Eastfist trolling you.

Obviously.

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May 03, 2015, 02:32:29 AM
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It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.

How did they know it was your paper, if you handed it under a pseudonym? (according to the assignment? I still find that hard to believe)

C'mon man, it's not completely impractical. I claimed it afterwards. Really, c'mon. If I didn't claim it, how would the chancellor know I wrote it and treat me all special and stuff. Also, it was one of the only papers with Asian pseudonym. There was like only 2 minorities in the class. Who else could it be?

I still don't see the point on having to use a pseudonym as part of the assignment. What purpose did it serve for the class? Was it just for teh lulz? Or, if it wasn't, then asking for who wrote it afterwards would have been immoral.


Keeping it anonymous was probably to see if there was any bias in how the class would respond. Frankly, I don't know their motive. I think that was the whole point was so they could take advantage of it.
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May 03, 2015, 02:33:19 AM
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It didn't. The whole class just handed it in, and Stefan Molyneux, the instructor, read mine in front of the class (in his "classy" accent), everyone got bedazzled for some reason. Next thing you know, the chancellor's escorting me all over Harding's campus introducing me to a bunch of old dudes in suits, investors. Mind you, I was only 14 years old. They were just using us to solve their politics. FYI, Harding is a math and technology institution, so a lot of wealthy people and tech icons go through there.

How did they know it was your paper, if you handed it under a pseudonym? (according to the assignment? I still find that hard to believe)

C'mon man, it's not completely impractical. I claimed it afterwards. Really, c'mon. If I didn't claim it, how would the chancellor know I wrote it and treat me all special and stuff. Also, it was one of the only papers with Asian pseudonym. There was like only 2 minorities in the class. Who else could it be?

I still don't see the point on having to use a pseudonym as part of the assignment. What purpose did it serve for the class? Was it just for teh lulz? Or, if it wasn't, then asking for who wrote it afterwards would have been immoral.
It's Eastfist trolling you.

Wow, someone's in denial. Or antagonizing with motive.

Use some logic: how many people out there are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto? And why would they? Why would I if it wasn't true? Most trolls would claim to be Satoshi only to make fun of him.
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