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September 12, 2018, 05:38:25 PM
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Do you see God?  What he looks like?

If you see him, you are insane.

BTW, most atheists do not believe in God(s) because of the lack of physical evidence.

Have you seen evil?(I was talking about the ugly scary demon not the act).

If yes then you are insane.

Atheist believes that there is evil even if there is a lack of physical evidence as well.


Because religion dictates what you need or have to do just to show your love to the creator. They enforce to you their ideals which they abide to, but a different ideal doesn't necessarily mean that you do not respect the lord. Atheists see it as that way so instead of trying to force themselves in, they leave. They'd rather stop worshipping than make themselves do things they never really wanted to do.

Exactly, because given have given us(humans). The free will and obviously atheist have choosen their path.

Cause if God did not exist there is no free will.


What are you talking about.  Atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings, Gods, angels, demons, Lucifer or any other characters from your religious scriptures.

The difference between you and me is that I will change my mind if you present me with the evidence to support your supernatural claims. BTW, Bible is not evidence.

You will never change your mind.  No matter the evidence. 
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September 12, 2018, 05:51:06 PM
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Do you see God?  What he looks like?

If you see him, you are insane.

BTW, most atheists do not believe in God(s) because of the lack of physical evidence.

Have you seen evil?(I was talking about the ugly scary demon not the act).

If yes then you are insane.

Atheist believes that there is evil even if there is a lack of physical evidence as well.


Because religion dictates what you need or have to do just to show your love to the creator. They enforce to you their ideals which they abide to, but a different ideal doesn't necessarily mean that you do not respect the lord. Atheists see it as that way so instead of trying to force themselves in, they leave. They'd rather stop worshipping than make themselves do things they never really wanted to do.

Exactly, because given have given us(humans). The free will and obviously atheist have choosen their path.

Cause if God did not exist there is no free will.


What are you talking about.  Atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings, Gods, angels, demons, Lucifer or any other characters from your religious scriptures.

The difference between you and me is that I will change my mind if you present me with the evidence to support your supernatural claims. BTW, Bible is not evidence.

You will never change your mind.  No matter the evidence.  


The evidence, both from scientific investigation, and from our scientific inability, is that people are supernatural beings. According to the way that nature works, we don't know how people can exist. It is impossible for people to come into existence according to nature. We don't know how people can exist except for the single fact... people are here. People are supernatural beings, as far as we know, simply in their existence.

In fact, all life is supernatural, as far as we know, because we don't know how to start dead chemicals into even one form of life, or how nature did it (if nature did it). Life is supernatural.

This alone turns atheism into a religion.

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September 12, 2018, 06:19:45 PM
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Do you see God?  What he looks like?

If you see him, you are insane.

BTW, most atheists do not believe in God(s) because of the lack of physical evidence.

Have you seen evil?(I was talking about the ugly scary demon not the act).

If yes then you are insane.

Atheist believes that there is evil even if there is a lack of physical evidence as well.


Because religion dictates what you need or have to do just to show your love to the creator. They enforce to you their ideals which they abide to, but a different ideal doesn't necessarily mean that you do not respect the lord. Atheists see it as that way so instead of trying to force themselves in, they leave. They'd rather stop worshipping than make themselves do things they never really wanted to do.

Exactly, because given have given us(humans). The free will and obviously atheist have choosen their path.

Cause if God did not exist there is no free will.


What are you talking about.  Atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings, Gods, angels, demons, Lucifer or any other characters from your religious scriptures.

The difference between you and me is that I will change my mind if you present me with the evidence to support your supernatural claims. BTW, Bible is not evidence.

You will never change your mind.  No matter the evidence.  


The evidence, both from scientific investigation, and from our scientific inability, is that people are supernatural beings. According to the way that nature works, we don't know how people can exist. It is impossible for people to come into existence according to nature. We don't know how people can exist except for the single fact... people are here. People are supernatural beings, as far as we know, simply in their existence.

In fact, all life is supernatural, as far as we know, because we don't know how to start dead chemicals into even one form of life, or how nature did it (if nature did it). Life is supernatural.

This alone turns atheism into a religion.

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I think your senses are failing you.
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September 12, 2018, 08:27:05 PM
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The evidence, both from scientific investigation, and from our scientific inability, is that people are supernatural beings. According to the way that nature works, we don't know how people can exist. It is impossible for people to come into existence according to nature. We don't know how people can exist except for the single fact... people are here. People are supernatural beings, as far as we know, simply in their existence.

In fact, all life is supernatural, as far as we know, because we don't know how to start dead chemicals into even one form of life, or how nature did it (if nature did it). Life is supernatural.

This alone turns atheism into a religion.

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I think your senses are failing you.

This isn't my idea. If you search for it, you can find scientists who say similar. Do you know why they say it? Because they can't figure out how to make life, and because they can't figure out why life can function on a planet that is as limited as is ours.

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September 13, 2018, 12:01:00 AM
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What are you talking about.  Atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings, Gods, angels, demons, Lucifer or any other characters from your religious scriptures.

The difference between you and me is that I will change my mind if you present me with the evidence to support your supernatural claims. BTW, Bible is not evidence.

You will never change your mind.  No matter the evidence. 


I was just simply talking about free will. God is not allowing us humans to explain everything like where did the evolution begin and how did it became from nothing to something.

So that humans could decide for themselves whether to believe that he existed or not.

Have you ever ask yourself about that facts? If science can explain most things yet science can't explain the core of everything?

You have wrap your mindset to that evidence you are talking about. All the evidence as well was given to you that science can't simply explains everything.

Nope you are wrong, if science can explain the core of everything then i might change my mind. However you aren't changing your mind even if you already saw it that science can't simply answer that question "where did all of this began? Like time and matter)


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September 13, 2018, 02:55:14 AM
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What are you talking about.  Atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings, Gods, angels, demons, Lucifer or any other characters from your religious scriptures.

The difference between you and me is that I will change my mind if you present me with the evidence to support your supernatural claims. BTW, Bible is not evidence.

You will never change your mind.  No matter the evidence.  


I was just simply talking about free will. God is not allowing us humans to explain everything like where did the evolution begin and how did it became from nothing to something.

So that humans could decide for themselves whether to believe that he existed or not.

Have you ever ask yourself about that facts? If science can explain most things yet science can't explain the core of everything?

You have wrap your mindset to that evidence you are talking about. All the evidence as well was given to you that science can't simply explains everything.

Nope you are wrong, if science can explain the core of everything then i might change my mind. However you aren't changing your mind even if you already saw it that science can't simply answer that question "where did all of this began? Like time and matter)

If you don't know something, an honest position is to say I don't know, not to invent some imaginary entity to fill your gaps in knowledge.

You believe in the God of the Gaps.  Google it.


Science will eventually explain everything.  

Have you noticed that the space where your "God" existed is getting smaller and smaller, all thanks to science.  Now you have to place him outside of the known universe.  But in reality he only exists in your mind.  For most people God is just that good feeling, supplemented with iconography of their church and memories of religious ceremonies.

Your God concept has been created by years of indoctrination by the cult you were born into.



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What are you talking about.  Atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings, Gods, angels, demons, Lucifer or any other characters from your religious scriptures.

The difference between you and me is that I will change my mind if you present me with the evidence to support your supernatural claims. BTW, Bible is not evidence.

You will never change your mind.  No matter the evidence.  


I was just simply talking about free will. God is not allowing us humans to explain everything like where did the evolution begin and how did it became from nothing to something.

So that humans could decide for themselves whether to believe that he existed or not.

Have you ever ask yourself about that facts? If science can explain most things yet science can't explain the core of everything?

You have wrap your mindset to that evidence you are talking about. All the evidence as well was given to you that science can't simply explains everything.

Nope you are wrong, if science can explain the core of everything then i might change my mind. However you aren't changing your mind even if you already saw it that science can't simply answer that question "where did all of this began? Like time and matter)

If you don't know something, an honest position is to say I don't know, not to invent some imaginary entity to fill your gaps in knowledge.

You believe in the God of the Gaps.  Google it.


Science will eventually explain everything.  

Have you noticed that the space where your "God" existed is getting smaller and smaller, all thanks to science.  Now you have to place him outside of the known universe.  But in reality he only exists in your mind.  For most people God is just that good feeling, supplemented with iconography of their church and memories of religious ceremonies.

Your God concept has been created by years of indoctrination by the cult you were born into.


Science has already explained God. Why would we want to explain anything else with science? Let's go to God in prayer.

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If you don't know something, an honest position is to say I don't know, not to invent some imaginary entity to fill your gaps in knowledge.

You believe in the God of the Gaps.  Google it.


Science will eventually explain everything.  

Have you noticed that the space where your "God" existed is getting smaller and smaller, all thanks to science.  Now you have to place him outside of the known universe.  But in reality he only exists in your mind.  For most people God is just that good feeling, supplemented with iconography of their church and memories of religious ceremonies.

Your God concept has been created by years of indoctrination by the cult you were born into.


That is why I've been asking to why can't science simply answer that simple question to where did all started to fill my gaps in knowledge.


Science only fills the gap of humans capacity in this life.  After you die you don't even know what will happen, so what are you telling me then is we just came out here out from nowhere? Pathetic.

The idea of "Science will eventually explain everything" only exist in your mind as if "God" only existed in my mind.  I just can't imagine how you setup your reasoning, the fact that is already been given to you that science can't explain everything. Yet it seems that you really is being too faithful that science will "someday", "soon", "eventually" will be able to explain everything.

By the way I will be asking you something, Do scientist ever went to every time and space to state that all they tell based on their studies are facts? Obviously not they will only fill the cup with water where they were into just like you. You only understand things based on your studies or experience more that then you can't explain other things and that is scientifically proven.  That is the reason why science by all means can't just simply explain everything.
 


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If you don't know something, an honest position is to say I don't know, not to invent some imaginary entity to fill your gaps in knowledge.

You believe in the God of the Gaps.  Google it.


Science will eventually explain everything.  

Have you noticed that the space where your "God" existed is getting smaller and smaller, all thanks to science.  Now you have to place him outside of the known universe.  But in reality he only exists in your mind.  For most people God is just that good feeling, supplemented with iconography of their church and memories of religious ceremonies.

Your God concept has been created by years of indoctrination by the cult you were born into.


That is why I've been asking to why can't science simply answer that simple question to where did all started to fill my gaps in knowledge.


Science only fills the gap of humans capacity in this life.  After you die you don't even know what will happen, so what are you telling me then is we just came out here out from nowhere? Pathetic.

The idea of "Science will eventually explain everything" only exist in your mind as if "God" only existed in my mind.  I just can't imagine how you setup your reasoning, the fact that is already been given to you that science can't explain everything. Yet it seems that you really is being too faithful that science will "someday", "soon", "eventually" will be able to explain everything.

By the way I will be asking you something, Do scientist ever went to every time and space to state that all they tell based on their studies are facts? Obviously not they will only fill the cup with water where they were into just like you. You only understand things based on your studies or experience more that then you can't explain other things and that is scientifically proven.  That is the reason why science by all means can't just simply explain everything.
 

What science explains can be verified to be true.
What religion explains cannot be verified to be true and there is an overwhelming evidence that it is not true.

It is ok to have questions.  It is not ok to provide answers without any evidence or means of verification.

If you don't care whether the answers (to your burning questions) are true, you accept the religious world view.
If you care whether the answers (to your burning questions) are true, you accept the scientific world view.

The fact that most religious people ignore scientific discoveries (evolution, emergence etc) that negate their position should tell you something about them.  They don't care.  They believe whatever the cult they were born into.

When scientists cannot explain something, they simply say "we don't know, we'll continue to look for the answers".
When religious folks cannot explain something, they simply say "God did it, we have the answers".

Which one of the two positions is an honest position.

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September 14, 2018, 03:15:34 PM
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Is atheism not a religion? Atheism like others is a religion that does not believe in the existence of deities whether by divinity or by nature.
All are religion because it is a way of life associated with individual belief irrespective of tribe, nation, gender etc. if an atheist believe there is no god, then that is a religion,

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Well, according to an atheist, they disagree with religion because religion make human lack of empathy when they should have it. And since human as a community could learn from the past experiences, including reviewing values that are no longer appropriate for the times and brave enough to change them.


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September 16, 2018, 09:47:21 AM
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I dont hate religion i only think that it is the reason for a lot of wars and a lot of people abuse the idea of relegion to make profit out of it...

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September 16, 2018, 10:00:25 AM
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my life experience, my friend is an atheist but he does not hate religion, because they assume that humans are free to choose their own way of life, and we cannot force someone because I think it violates human rights, I am still being good friends and respect each other's choices

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September 16, 2018, 01:29:34 PM
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I don't think all atheists hate religion, in my opinion people are free to choose atheists or choose a particular religion because it is human rights, it would be better if we respect each other and respect each other's choices

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September 17, 2018, 12:24:03 AM
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Okay, if you are an atheist who DOESN'T hate religion, you are simply a person who posts a comment. The tread isn't referring to you.

This thread is about atheists who HATE religion. The topic should have been titled, "Why do Atheists Who Hate Religion, Hate Religion."

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In my opinion Atheists do not hate religion that much. They just do not believe in Gods is it because they believe in what they experience. They kill innocent people because of the religion? No! they kill people because they want to fight the government, they want to get attention from the government they do not hate religion that much. I have a friend who is atheist and I ask him do you hate Gods ? He said I do not it just happen that many people make them self look like they really believe in God but the reality they dont believe and also i dont have religions but I just dont believe in God is it because we dont experience God and see him sitting on the throne

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September 17, 2018, 02:23:27 AM
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Perhaps it is because that religion makes people do crazy things or commit nasty things that does not have to happen. I believe there is a God but there are some instances that it makes me not agree to what they believe it or hate it like there are many Gods. They also worship many saints and the worst part is that they worship a piece of a wood that is made by a man.

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Americans like atheists less than they like members of most major religious groups. A 2014 Pew Research Center survey asked Americans to rate groups on a “feeling thermometer” from zero (as cold and negative as possible) to 100 (the warmest, most positive possible rating). U.S. adults gave atheists an average rating of 41, comparable to the rating they gave Muslims (40) and far colder than the average given to Jews (63), Catholics (62) and evangelical Christians (61).
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What science explains can be verified to be true.
Of course it is true but it has  a lot of limitation.

What religion explains cannot be verified to be true and there is an overwhelming evidence that it is not true.
It is indeed really overwhelming to think that there is a creation without a creator in which religions are trying to explain.



It is ok to have questions.  It is not ok to provide answers without any evidence or means of verification.

Creation is the pure evidence of  the existence of God. Matter,Force, Space,Time did not create itselves that is just pathetic.



If you don't care whether the answers (to your burning questions) are true, you accept the religious world view.
If you care whether the answers (to your burning questions) are true, you accept the scientific world view.
The answer for my question is clear, ironically you don't see it clearly ( that is your opinion anyways)



The fact that most religious people ignore scientific discoveries (evolution, emergence etc) that negate their position should tell you something about them.  They don't care.  They believe whatever the cult they were born into.

When scientists cannot explain something, they simply say "we don't know, we'll continue to look for the answers".
When religious folks cannot explain something, they simply say "God did it, we have the answers".




Religious people did not ignore scientific discoveries, atheist on the other hand ignores the fact that scientific discoveries only provide theories about evolution. As I have said you can't have a creation without a creator that is the fact.

That is exactly the point science don't know all things that is why they only provide theories.

Which one of the two positions is an honest position.

Based on my common sense I still believe that a creation will never ever be created without a creator. You can't have a phone without inventors. Now this debate is a never ending debate in my opinion. So basically I will believe based on the fact that I know and so you are oppositely.


Just a suggestion tho, try reading

"Does God Exist?: Can the existence of God be scientifically proved?" by Herbert W. Armstrong
That "might" just change the way how you think about life.


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