Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

BTW, I never answered this.

Why do Atheists hate Religion ?

The answer is that they do not, it is the other way around. Actually most atheists I know feel very sad for those that feel they must conform to some doctrine in order to have a better life than the one they currently have. I see there point.

Last post, thread is a waste of time.

Every last one of them, right? Well, you might as well leave after a statement like that.

Cow : Pie :: BADecker : Religion

You're so cute. Thanks for getting down to earth.   

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[Beliathon]

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. The gift of rational thought is perverted and usurped by superstitious brainwashing during the formative years of very nearly all religious adults.

Some linguistic anthropologists regard religion as a language virus, which short circuits the critical thinking pathways in our brains. The gift of primate brain plasticity can also be a curse, when barbaric Mother Nation Culture ignorantly tinkers with nature.

True Detective - Rust talks about Religion

If you love reason, it follows that you must despise its enemies, violence and its ally superstition.

[BADecker]

Of course, how does anybody know for a fact that when you are dead, you don't know that you are dead? Has anybody come back from real death and stated such on the witness stand in court? Or is it only hearsay? Or is it only an assumption?

Until I know for a fact that when a person is dead, he/she doesn't know it, I'm not going to stupidly make that assumption.

[BADecker]

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. The gift of rational thought is perverted and usurped by superstitious brainwashing during the formative years of very nearly all religious adults.

Some linguistic anthropologists regard religion as a language virus, which short circuits the critical thinking pathways in our brains. The gift of primate brain plasticity can also be a curse, when barbaric Mother Nation Culture ignorantly tinkers with nature.

True Detective - Rust talks about Religion

If you love reason, it follows that you must despise its enemies, violence and its ally superstition.

This can be true for members of any religion. But while it is not necessarily true of all the members of every religion, it is mostly true for members of the atheism religion. Why? Because the evidence for the existence of God is overwhelming, as shown here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

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Of course, how does anybody know for a fact that when you are dead, you don't know that you are dead? Has anybody come back from real death and stated such on the witness stand in court? Or is it only hearsay? Or is it only an assumption?

Until I know for a fact that when a person is dead, he/she doesn't know it, I'm not going to stupidly make that assumption.

Care to explain how making the assumption that you will live eternally is any more valid?

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A mind is a terrible thing to waste. The gift of rational thought is perverted and usurped by superstitious brainwashing during the formative years of very nearly all religious adults.

Some linguistic anthropologists regard religion as a language virus, which short circuits the critical thinking pathways in our brains. The gift of primate brain plasticity can also be a curse, when barbaric Mother Nation Culture ignorantly tinkers with nature.

True Detective - Rust talks about Religion

If you love reason, it follows that you must despise its enemies, violence and its ally superstition.

This can be true for members of any religion. But while it is not necessarily true of all the members of every religion, it is mostly true for members of the atheism religion. Why? Because the evidence for the existence of God is overwhelming, as shown here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Honestly, I don't even know why you keep pushing the "atheism is a religion" point.  It says nothing about Christianity whatsoever, and really doesn't mean much of anything.

What I can tell you is that the reason why we keep pushing back against such an unimportant point is that the reasoning by which you arrive at this point infiltrates all other conclusions that you create.  That is, the way in which you invent definitions on the fly, such that you have many active definitions in play at one time, only serves to make your conclusions inconsistent (via the inconsistent definitions you have in play).

You would be better off just dropping your whole "atheism is a religion" shtick, and then finding a way to re-word your beliefs in a way that's consistent with the language everyone else uses.  Else, we will continue to never understand you, and what we don't understand won't make sense.  And you wonder why we call your blabberings "nonsense."

[zeeshsnrehman2]

i think atheist are just people who do not like to be controlled or have the feeling to believe in a deity or any Godliness. but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?

[Beliathon]

Of course, how does anybody know for a fact that when you are dead, you don't know you're dead?

Irreversible brain death occurs within 8 minutes of the heart's final pump,  after that the brain begins to rot away. Little to no brain matter remains just 7 days post-mortem, and there is no electrical storm happening in whatever rotting matter remains.

Unless you're one of the level 99 theistards who actually believe experience occurs somewhere other than the brain, you must concede this argument. I genuinely hope the damage religion has done to your critical thinking capacity isn't that severe.

Your beliefs do nothing to invalidate modern medical science, and are farcical in the face of it. As science progresses and relegion struggles to survive the suffocating effects of the information age, I wonder how many of you will go mad and end yourselves rather than face a transhumanist existence? Hopefully you don't take too many (more) of us non-theists down with you in your implosion.

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but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?

Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.
Anyone claiming to know what happens is lying.

[zeeshsnrehman2]

but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?

Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.

i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it

[Lauda]

Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.

i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it

I'm an atheist. If a write a book stating that we become unicorns after we die and even if others believe that, it won't make it true.
I for one don't think about that. The question can't be answered while you're alive. If you focus on the life and death paradox too much you might start going crazy.

You can always pick the easy route and believe afterlife fairy tales. Then there is no reason not to believe in the Stargate and the ancients either.  

[zeeshsnrehman2]

Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.

i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it

I'm an atheist. If a write a book stating that we become unicorns after we die and even if others believe that, it won't make it true.
I for one don't think about that. The question can't be answered while you're alive. If you focus on the life and death paradox too much you might start going crazy.

You can always pick the easy route and believe afterlife fairy tales. Then there is no reason not to believe in the Stargate and the ancients either.  

and what if it was not a fairytale? what if when you die you see that you will have a judgement day? this is a very interresting conversation to have. what will you do when whoever is out there starts questionning your doings? your beliefs? its just a question but still, what if?

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Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.

i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it

I'm an atheist. If a write a book stating that we become unicorns after we die and even if others believe that, it won't make it true.
I for one don't think about that. The question can't be answered while you're alive. If you focus on the life and death paradox too much you might start going crazy.

You can always pick the easy route and believe afterlife fairy tales. Then there is no reason not to believe in the Stargate and the ancients either.  

and what if it was not a fairytale? what if when you die you see that you will have a judgement day? this is a very interresting conversation to have. what will you do when whoever is out there starts questionning your doings? your beliefs? its just a question but still, what if?

The Atheists will be judged on their good or bad behaviour in life, the same as everyone else. Those that believed in the man-made religions in their life, won't get any special treatment.

Of course in reality I have no idea, just guessing like everyone else.

[Lauda]

and what if it was not a fairytale? what if when you die you see that you will have a judgement day? this is a very interresting conversation to have. what will you do when whoever is out there starts questionning your doings? your beliefs? its just a question but still, what if?

So you're asking me what if atheists have been wrong all along and judgement day comes?
There will be two options: a) the boring religious people will be stuck in heaven with a bunch of other boring religious people with their God who likes to have everyone under control.
b) The non believers, sinners and such will enjoy our time in hell with all the sinners of the world. This includes most of my awesome friends, hookers and people such as Dan Blizerian.

I'd rather chose option b.  

The Atheists will be judged on their good or bad behaviour in life, the same as everyone else. Those that believed in the man-made religions in their life, won't get any special treatment.

He's talking about the judgement day as described in the books. You're forgetting that atheists (including me) probably broke majority of the rules of every religion out there.  

Now if the religions actually were wrong all along, but there was a god and judgement day came, then what you said is true.

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Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

[zeeshsnrehman2]

Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

you believe in devil? o.O thats weird.

anyways maybe you mean if there exist a devil or something like that.

yeah well that was interresting, we do not know what will happen after our death, but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell. as far as i know fire hasnt been my strong point all my life

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Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?

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Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

you believe in devil? o.O thats weird.

Not really. But it winds up BADecker.

[zeeshsnrehman2]

Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?

yeah i do agree it has yet to be proven. but all religion speaks of hell as burning fire. all religion even tho they have their differences and beliefs speaks about the same subject, im not saying they are right or they are wrong. but its just a thought i wanted to point out.

i do agree with you, death is inevitable.