Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

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Stop being so dense, and wake up to scientific truth. God exists.

I told you God and science don't belong in the same sentence.

You told me? Whoopie dee. God made science.

Yeah! God created science!!! And the scientists are just stupid morons not even able to see the truth that God is everywhere and that their work is useless as everything is undoubtibly proving the existence of God!!!

Well, I wouldn't go that far. They are simply people who want their own control in life. And ignoring the fact that God exists seems to give them the freedom of more control. If they could only prove it somehow, that God doesn't exist, they just might be able to take over control of cause and effect. So far, they haven't found any other control than God. But they are working at it as hard as they can.

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[BADecker]

Theory, until proven factual, is fiction. Law is factual. The problem with many areas of science is that the scientists are accepting non-fact over fact. Thus, science itself is following a form of devolution, just like all of human-kind.

So you don't know what quantum mechanics is, I guess.  Well, that is ok, read and learn...

When you look into it in depth, you will find that quantum mechanics is simply complex probability.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_gravitational_theory

In science word 'theory' means a different thing as in colloquial English.  As in "theory" as something that might or might not be true.

When you get down to the basics of it, you will find that science theory is often composed of science facts that are combined in a new way. Thus, a theory can have facts in it. But the way that they are combined is the theory part in the standard meaning of the word "theory." Just because some facts are combined to form something that somebody thinks might be true, doesn't necessarily mean that the thing absolutely is true.

If science theory were not theory in the general sense of the word, it would be called fact or law rather than theory.

In science theory is subjected to peer review, repeatable, observable tests that validate this theory.  When someone talks about theory in science you can be sure this theory has been validated, dissected apart by hundreds if not thousands of scientists.  Each scientist wants to make a name for himself by invalidating any of the existing theories.  That is how science works my friend.

When a theory is validated, if it has not become fact or law, it is simply validated as a theory. There are many ideas that have been proposed as theories, but peer reviewed that they could not stand up as theory.

Quantum mechanics does not agree with Newtonian laws.

Again, this is because quantum this or that is only complex probability. Being probability means that it does not necesarily exist factually.

Hmm... Nooooooooooo...
Seems like nobody explained you what quantum physic is ^^

Ok I'll try to explain physics to you:
Quantum physics comes from the notion of quanta, which means that energy can only spreads in amounts proportional to a constant value.

What does that mean?
Well nothing incredible. It just explains everything that happens in very small size (nanosize).

Nothing more. There is no question of probability here. I don't know what you're talking about dude. Seems you never made any kind of quantum physics.

"Quantum Mechanics explained in 60 seconds by Brian Cox - BBC News" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfQkxwz4Oo.

Thanks for the link. Now you see this has nothing to do with our subject. Probabilities of placement of particle is the CONSEQUENCE of quantum physics theory.

Which means quantum physics IS NOT probabilities. It's a very simple and proven true theory. But the CONSEQUENCE of this theory is that you can consider particles (one by one so at a nano scale) and you will not be able to define them with 100% certainty which means you will only get probabilities of result!

It's really different from saying quantum physics is just a question of probabilities. It means if you apply the quantum physics theory to very small parts of our universe (such as isolated particles) it will give you probabilities results. That's all.

Quantum Physics Theory is not fact, simply because it is theory. Thus, the best that it might be is probability. Are you trying to tell me that it is not even probability?

[mainpmf]

Theory, until proven factual, is fiction. Law is factual. The problem with many areas of science is that the scientists are accepting non-fact over fact. Thus, science itself is following a form of devolution, just like all of human-kind.

So you don't know what quantum mechanics is, I guess.  Well, that is ok, read and learn...

When you look into it in depth, you will find that quantum mechanics is simply complex probability.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_gravitational_theory

In science word 'theory' means a different thing as in colloquial English.  As in "theory" as something that might or might not be true.

When you get down to the basics of it, you will find that science theory is often composed of science facts that are combined in a new way. Thus, a theory can have facts in it. But the way that they are combined is the theory part in the standard meaning of the word "theory." Just because some facts are combined to form something that somebody thinks might be true, doesn't necessarily mean that the thing absolutely is true.

If science theory were not theory in the general sense of the word, it would be called fact or law rather than theory.

In science theory is subjected to peer review, repeatable, observable tests that validate this theory.  When someone talks about theory in science you can be sure this theory has been validated, dissected apart by hundreds if not thousands of scientists.  Each scientist wants to make a name for himself by invalidating any of the existing theories.  That is how science works my friend.

When a theory is validated, if it has not become fact or law, it is simply validated as a theory. There are many ideas that have been proposed as theories, but peer reviewed that they could not stand up as theory.

Quantum mechanics does not agree with Newtonian laws.

Again, this is because quantum this or that is only complex probability. Being probability means that it does not necesarily exist factually.

Hmm... Nooooooooooo...
Seems like nobody explained you what quantum physic is ^^

Ok I'll try to explain physics to you:
Quantum physics comes from the notion of quanta, which means that energy can only spreads in amounts proportional to a constant value.

What does that mean?
Well nothing incredible. It just explains everything that happens in very small size (nanosize).

Nothing more. There is no question of probability here. I don't know what you're talking about dude. Seems you never made any kind of quantum physics.

"Quantum Mechanics explained in 60 seconds by Brian Cox - BBC News" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfQkxwz4Oo.

Thanks for the link. Now you see this has nothing to do with our subject. Probabilities of placement of particle is the CONSEQUENCE of quantum physics theory.

Which means quantum physics IS NOT probabilities. It's a very simple and proven true theory. But the CONSEQUENCE of this theory is that you can consider particles (one by one so at a nano scale) and you will not be able to define them with 100% certainty which means you will only get probabilities of result!

It's really different from saying quantum physics is just a question of probabilities. It means if you apply the quantum physics theory to very small parts of our universe (such as isolated particles) it will give you probabilities results. That's all.

Quantum Physics Theory is not fact, simply because it is theory. Thus, the best that it might be is probability. Are you trying to tell me that it is not even probability?

But how can't you understand something like that?
Quantum Physics is not more a theory than gravity or and functioning or any other kind of science!

In fact Quantum Physics is the most proven part of the whole science!!! We managed to do experiments that confirmed the Quantum Physics theory until the 23th decimals! It's the best result we ever had, no other part of science with more precision!

If you call quantum physics a theory, then every part of science is a theory and there can be no scientific fact.

[BADecker]

Theory, until proven factual, is fiction. Law is factual. The problem with many areas of science is that the scientists are accepting non-fact over fact. Thus, science itself is following a form of devolution, just like all of human-kind.

So you don't know what quantum mechanics is, I guess.  Well, that is ok, read and learn...

When you look into it in depth, you will find that quantum mechanics is simply complex probability.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_gravitational_theory

In science word 'theory' means a different thing as in colloquial English.  As in "theory" as something that might or might not be true.

When you get down to the basics of it, you will find that science theory is often composed of science facts that are combined in a new way. Thus, a theory can have facts in it. But the way that they are combined is the theory part in the standard meaning of the word "theory." Just because some facts are combined to form something that somebody thinks might be true, doesn't necessarily mean that the thing absolutely is true.

If science theory were not theory in the general sense of the word, it would be called fact or law rather than theory.

In science theory is subjected to peer review, repeatable, observable tests that validate this theory.  When someone talks about theory in science you can be sure this theory has been validated, dissected apart by hundreds if not thousands of scientists.  Each scientist wants to make a name for himself by invalidating any of the existing theories.  That is how science works my friend.

When a theory is validated, if it has not become fact or law, it is simply validated as a theory. There are many ideas that have been proposed as theories, but peer reviewed that they could not stand up as theory.

Quantum mechanics does not agree with Newtonian laws.

Again, this is because quantum this or that is only complex probability. Being probability means that it does not necesarily exist factually.

Hmm... Nooooooooooo...
Seems like nobody explained you what quantum physic is ^^

Ok I'll try to explain physics to you:
Quantum physics comes from the notion of quanta, which means that energy can only spreads in amounts proportional to a constant value.

What does that mean?
Well nothing incredible. It just explains everything that happens in very small size (nanosize).

Nothing more. There is no question of probability here. I don't know what you're talking about dude. Seems you never made any kind of quantum physics.

"Quantum Mechanics explained in 60 seconds by Brian Cox - BBC News" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfQkxwz4Oo.

Thanks for the link. Now you see this has nothing to do with our subject. Probabilities of placement of particle is the CONSEQUENCE of quantum physics theory.

Which means quantum physics IS NOT probabilities. It's a very simple and proven true theory. But the CONSEQUENCE of this theory is that you can consider particles (one by one so at a nano scale) and you will not be able to define them with 100% certainty which means you will only get probabilities of result!

It's really different from saying quantum physics is just a question of probabilities. It means if you apply the quantum physics theory to very small parts of our universe (such as isolated particles) it will give you probabilities results. That's all.

Quantum Physics Theory is not fact, simply because it is theory. Thus, the best that it might be is probability. Are you trying to tell me that it is not even probability?

But how can't you understand something like that?
Quantum Physics is not more a theory than gravity or and functioning or any other kind of science!

In fact Quantum Physics is the most proven part of the whole science!!! We managed to do experiments that confirmed the Quantum Physics theory until the 23th decimals! It's the best result we ever had, no other part of science with more precision!

If you call quantum physics a theory, then every part of science is a theory and there can be no scientific fact.

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

[mainpmf]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

[BADecker]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

[mainpmf]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

[BADecker]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

[xslugx]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

[BADecker]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

[xslugx]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

[BADecker]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

The law of gravity is what people experience. It is real. It has to do with celestial mechnaics.

Gravity theory has to do with the reasons why gravity works the way it does. Some of it might have to do with certain unknown actions of gravity that are being predicted. These theories are not known to be true.

Gravity is real. The theories about gravity are not known to be real.

[xslugx]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

The law of gravity is what people experience. It is real. It has to do with celestial mechnaics.

Gravity theory has to do with the reasons why gravity works the way it does. Some of it might have to do with certain unknown actions of gravity that are being predicted. These theories are not known to be true.

Gravity is real. The theories about gravity are not known to be real.

Yeah, and it's not because our entire world technology works with those theories that have correct results until the 14th decimal that we can say they're true, absolutely not! xD

So for you there is no scientific reality. Only theories and phenomenon that's all.

[BADecker]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

The law of gravity is what people experience. It is real. It has to do with celestial mechnaics.

Gravity theory has to do with the reasons why gravity works the way it does. Some of it might have to do with certain unknown actions of gravity that are being predicted. These theories are not known to be true.

Gravity is real. The theories about gravity are not known to be real.

Yeah, and it's not because our entire world technology works with those theories that have correct results until the 14th decimal that we can say they're true, absolutely not! xD

So for you there is no scientific reality. Only theories and phenomenon that's all.

Actually, it is the other way around. There are scientific laws that have been proven to be real, or that are so evident that all it takes is a statement about them. Three of thes rel scientific laws are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Universal entropy.

When these three laws are combined, they show that God exists. Theories can't do this with certainty, because theories have an element of uncertainty about them.

When theories become laws, they are called such. If they are called laws while they are still theories, it is because someone is trying to promote them. In essence, a religion is formed.

[xslugx]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

The law of gravity is what people experience. It is real. It has to do with celestial mechnaics.

Gravity theory has to do with the reasons why gravity works the way it does. Some of it might have to do with certain unknown actions of gravity that are being predicted. These theories are not known to be true.

Gravity is real. The theories about gravity are not known to be real.

Yeah, and it's not because our entire world technology works with those theories that have correct results until the 14th decimal that we can say they're true, absolutely not! xD

So for you there is no scientific reality. Only theories and phenomenon that's all.

Actually, it is the other way around. There are scientific laws that have been proven to be real, or that are so evident that all it takes is a statement about them. Three of thes rel scientific laws are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Universal entropy.

When these three laws are combined, they show that God exists. Theories can't do this with certainty, because theories have an element of uncertainty about them.

When theories become laws, they are called such. If they are called laws while they are still theories, it is because someone is trying to promote them. In essence, a religion is formed.

And how are theories proven? How do they become laws?

[af_newbie]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

The law of gravity is what people experience. It is real. It has to do with celestial mechnaics.

Gravity theory has to do with the reasons why gravity works the way it does. Some of it might have to do with certain unknown actions of gravity that are being predicted. These theories are not known to be true.

Gravity is real. The theories about gravity are not known to be real.

Yeah, and it's not because our entire world technology works with those theories that have correct results until the 14th decimal that we can say they're true, absolutely not! xD

So for you there is no scientific reality. Only theories and phenomenon that's all.

Actually, it is the other way around. There are scientific laws that have been proven to be real, or that are so evident that all it takes is a statement about them. Three of thes rel scientific laws are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Universal entropy.

When these three laws are combined, they show that God exists. Theories can't do this with certainty, because theories have an element of uncertainty about them.

When theories become laws, they are called such. If they are called laws while they are still theories, it is because someone is trying to promote them. In essence, a religion is formed.

And how are theories proven? How do they become laws?

"They become laws as long as they don't break religious dogma :-)  Otherwise, they are unproven theories." - BADecker, PhD (religious studies, entropy and other fancy words)

[eon89]

Please allow me to intervene: "God exists because God exists. God exists because things exist".

[BADecker]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

The law of gravity is what people experience. It is real. It has to do with celestial mechnaics.

Gravity theory has to do with the reasons why gravity works the way it does. Some of it might have to do with certain unknown actions of gravity that are being predicted. These theories are not known to be true.

Gravity is real. The theories about gravity are not known to be real.

Yeah, and it's not because our entire world technology works with those theories that have correct results until the 14th decimal that we can say they're true, absolutely not! xD

So for you there is no scientific reality. Only theories and phenomenon that's all.

Actually, it is the other way around. There are scientific laws that have been proven to be real, or that are so evident that all it takes is a statement about them. Three of thes rel scientific laws are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Universal entropy.

When these three laws are combined, they show that God exists. Theories can't do this with certainty, because theories have an element of uncertainty about them.

When theories become laws, they are called such. If they are called laws while they are still theories, it is because someone is trying to promote them. In essence, a religion is formed.

And how are theories proven? How do they become laws?

One of the requirements for a theory to become law is that nothing in the theory can be proven false. Another is that everything in the theory must be proven true.

Most of the big cosmology theories will never be able to be proven to be true. For example, even if Big Bang Theory advance to the stage that there weren't any holes in it, Big Bang could never be proven as true until a time viewer was invented so that we could actually see what happened back then.

The reason for this is, there might be several different forms of Big Bang Theory. Which one is right? Are there more than one that are right at the same time, depending on the "angle" you might be observing the Big Bang.

Also, depending on other theories that exist, there might be some other theory that was not Big Bang at all, like the theory that suggests that everything existed indefinitely into the past, without a Big Bang at all. If it had no holes at the same time that Big Bang Theory had no holes, which one is the correct one?

We won't know until we go there one way or another.

[BADecker]

The law of gravity is real. Do you remember the story of the apple falling of the tree and hitting Newton in the head? Go look it up. Gravity is universal law.

Gravity Theory has to do with the things in nature that make gravity work. They are theory because nobody has formally proven what they are.

As Brian Cox said, Quantum Physics is probability. Quantum Physics Theory is how and why QP works, etc.

What is so hard about this?

So something is real if you're able to see it?

The mirror is real, even though the only thing you see when you look in it, is yourself.

So quantum physics is not real because?....

Quantum physics is real probability. Quantum physics theory is real theory. Quantum physics is not quantum physics theory.

Damn what you're saying has no sense dude...

So for you gravity is real but gravity theory is just a theory we shouldn't consider as a fact? Same for thermodynamics and biological evolution?

Well, think about it. For everyone, gravity is a real thing. The folks on the ISS know about it, but they aren't experiencing much of it on board.

Theories of gravity don't bother anyone except the scientists. The reason that scientists have the theories is that they are trying to find out more details about gravity than the simple fact that it works.Theories are real theories, but they are not reality. If they were reality, they would be called laws, not theories.

Well they're called laws.

And if they didn't "bother with theories" as you're saying you wouldn't be there, there wouldn't be internet, neither PC or anything like that...

The law of gravity is what people experience. It is real. It has to do with celestial mechnaics.

Gravity theory has to do with the reasons why gravity works the way it does. Some of it might have to do with certain unknown actions of gravity that are being predicted. These theories are not known to be true.

Gravity is real. The theories about gravity are not known to be real.

Yeah, and it's not because our entire world technology works with those theories that have correct results until the 14th decimal that we can say they're true, absolutely not! xD

So for you there is no scientific reality. Only theories and phenomenon that's all.

Actually, it is the other way around. There are scientific laws that have been proven to be real, or that are so evident that all it takes is a statement about them. Three of thes rel scientific laws are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Universal entropy.

When these three laws are combined, they show that God exists. Theories can't do this with certainty, because theories have an element of uncertainty about them.

When theories become laws, they are called such. If they are called laws while they are still theories, it is because someone is trying to promote them. In essence, a religion is formed.

And how are theories proven? How do they become laws?

"They become laws as long as they don't break religious dogma :-)  Otherwise, they are unproven theories." - BADecker, PhD (religious studies, entropy and other fancy words)

Wow! You really are a religious nut, aren't you?     

[eon89]

Religious nut? Coming from you? That's a new one.