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April 24, 2015, 04:15:23 PM
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Liberland: hundreds of thousands apply to live in world's newest 'country'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/24/liberland-hundreds-of-thousands-apply-to-live-in-worlds-newest-country

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“The legal system will incorporate good habits from other countries: Switzerland, Britain, Estonia, some parts of the US constitution,” he adds. Liberland will have a government of “10 to 20 members and a police force, but will not have an army, operating an open-border policy”. An official cryptocurrency along the lines of bitcoin is planned and state debt will be banned under the constitution.

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April 24, 2015, 07:10:47 PM
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This country sounds like good, i think i am interested in the idea of freedom of the community is open to everyone and I love this state motto "Live and let live"  Grin
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April 24, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
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7 sq km...
Probably not enough place for BTT users Grin

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April 24, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
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If you're in the construction business and want to make it big, just get your asses to liberland asap. Not to mention utility companies that will be needed.
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April 25, 2015, 07:53:23 AM
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Ok so how do you fit 200 000 people into a 7 sq km piece of ground? This is also on the border with Croatia and Serbia {Very volatile area}

Bitcoin will suite their purpose very well as a currency, they should first get the telecommunication infrastructure going... on second thought.. water and electricity comes first.

Being such a small community.... scary things come to my mind.  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0295700/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1


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April 25, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
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Unfortunately these sorts of attempts to create libertarian utopias fail.

Ok so how do you fit 200 000 people into a 7 sq km piece of ground? This is also on the border with Croatia and Serbia {Very volatile area}

Yeah, and with no army and open borders they'll likely soon run into trouble or will be unprepared for any invaders or troublemakers:

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“The legal system will incorporate good habits from other countries: Switzerland, Britain, Estonia, some parts of the US constitution,” he adds. Liberland will have a government of “10 to 20 members and a police force, but will not have an army, operating an open-border policy”. An official cryptocurrency along the lines of bitcoin is planned and state debt will be banned under the constitution.
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April 25, 2015, 12:14:39 PM
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Yeah, and with no army and open borders they'll likely soon run into trouble or will be unprepared for any invaders or troublemakers

Good point.
First of all either Serbia or Croatia could not share their enthusiasm and simply remove them from the island. But if they let them be, they'll be exposed to likely attacks. Any organised 10+ group of crooks could just walk in and take whatever they want without any criminal charges (since it's independent territory).

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April 25, 2015, 01:08:57 PM
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Well an area and population so small, where is the scope of infrastructure that would hold any kind of current. I don't think it would be that helpfull.

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April 25, 2015, 02:23:25 PM
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The proponent of the idea obviously doesn't intend to move there any time soon, he's not mentioning anything about making the place habitable. I wonder if it might end up working like a sequence of Banksy photos I've seen: Banksy (supposedly) spray paints an official looking government logo with equally convincingly official font reading "Officially Designated Graffiti Zone", on an entirely graffiti-free brick wall. Guess what happens in the subsequent photos...

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April 25, 2015, 09:44:53 PM
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The proponent of the idea obviously doesn't intend to move there any time soon, he's not mentioning anything about making the place habitable....

Freedom is a powerful motivator, so if the surrounding countries allow them to exist, this could get really interesting.
Let's get some brave people there to help figure out if it is safe....

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April 27, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
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These things always have the right ideals at heart but they never work. If anyone wants to see what will happen watch or read The Beach. That's the best case scenario. And. Liberland? Seriously? Could they not come up with a better name?
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April 27, 2015, 03:41:17 PM
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I don't know whether they will be able to survive without an army. That particular region is infamous for organized crime cartels, which specialize in trafficking immigrants to the European Union, as well as those involved in drug smuggling. It won't be a bad idea to have a few hundred strong border guards force, just to keep the unwanted elements away.
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April 27, 2015, 04:00:38 PM
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How many people live there now?

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May 11, 2015, 02:09:04 PM
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How many people live there now?

None. Their own founder just got arrested for trespassing so it doesn't look like this is going to go ahead any time soon. I;m sure it was more a publicity stunt than anything.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/05/10/liberland-president-arrested-by-croatia-for-trespassing-in-no-man-land/
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