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[Xiaoxiao]

Before anyone decides to run off spamming this guys affiliate link all over the internet read what kinda of site it is first:

Twitchyseal just convinced a staff member of this forum it was unethical to be in Betcoin sig spamcaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1544602.0

Read the trust feedback for Betcoin.ag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202115

Lutpins advice:

You shouldn't be advertising betcoin.ag given their current situation and how they handle problems/themselves.
That being said, I would advise everyone else being enrolled in that campaign to do the same, drop it.

Read how they treat players privately:
https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/07/betcoin-ag-betsoft-force-shafted-jackpot-winner-into-agreement

Read how they treat players in public chat:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648.msg15543609#msg15543609

Casinomeister warns everyone they should not play at Betcoin.ag
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74146

WARNING: Based on recent evidence players are advised to proceed with caution when playing Betsoft games offering jackpots. It would be wise to play at reputable Betsoft casinos only since it appears the individual casinos may have control over the frequency of jackpots.

WARNING: avoid Betcoin.ag since they are using phantom and/or imaginary Terms to withhold jackpot payouts.

They are blacklisted at casinolistings:
https://www.casinolistings.com/casinos/rogue-warnings-blacklist

Rogue Casinos: the worst of the worst

Betcoin.ag
Betcoin.ag is one of a new breed of casino that operate solely using crypto-currencies such as Bitcoin. In mid 2016 we were approached by Jason, a player that claimed that he had been stiffed of a million mBTC progressive jackpot payout on a Betsoft slot, The Glam Life. Jason won the jackpot with five yacht symbols across the middle payline. Or so he thought. Instead he was paid a 1000 coin win and told, after several changes of story, that he didn't qualify for the jackpot because the winning spin occurred during the game's free spins bonus round. This was not documented in the paytable at the time, and after the controversy Betsoft later updated the game's paytable with a poorly worded statement that attempts to state this exception. The bottom line is, he was ripped off from a once in a lifetime win.

While the issue was no doubt caused by Betsoft, either through incompetence or malice, Betcoin.ag did itself no favours in its handling of the matter. While other casinos were dropping Betsoft games altogether after our investigation into their jackpots revealed several irregularities, Betcoin continues to offer Betsoft's crooked games. They instead told the player that they couldn't do anything, its all up to Betsoft and they are just a poor innocent intermediary caught in the middle. Eventually Jason was paid off with an amount that no-one will divulge and forced to make public statements proclaiming his love for Betcoin and Betsoft. In other words, they paid him to shut up and stop complaining about his rightful win. Betcoin.ag is not licensed or regulated by any recognised authority and they have demonstrated that they are a rogue casino willing to run crooked games. Avoid.

They also steal, lie and cheat and also allow their members to lie, steal and cheat.  More about that here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg13507632#msg13507632

As I've said over a million times, the poker room has nothing to do with the casino nor the casino providers.  The poker room's provider is WPN, and all the players on this program has benefited tremendously because it's the best rakeback program available today maybe?

At any rate, all rakeback has been processed for 7/4-7/10.

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[TwitchySeal]

As I've said over a million times, the poker room has nothing to do with the casino nor the casino providers.  The poker room's provider is WPN, and all the players on this program has benefited tremendously because it's the best rakeback program available today maybe?

At any rate, all rakeback has been processed for 7/4-7/10.

Bullshit.  

The money you make off your comicsans website comes almost entirely from the casino and sportsbook revenue generated by your signups.

Betcoin pays affiliates a commission based on how much rake their signups pay while playing poker and how much they lose in the casino or sportsbook.


Xiao is trying to attract people who play poker by offering to return the affiliate fee he receives for their revenue generated from poker. Xiao has a special deal with Betcoin.  They pay him MORE than the top tier, which allows him to easily poach other affiliates signups and essentially lock up most serious poker players.  If a player signs up under someone else, they create a new account when they hear about Xiao usually.

Many poker players also enjoy gambling on casino games or sports and as a top affiliate,  Xiao receives at least 35% of his players sports losses and 50% of casino losses.  Maybe more (special deal, remember?)! He keeps all that.

Source: https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates

[Xiaoxiao]

As I've said over a million times, the poker room has nothing to do with the casino nor the casino providers.  The poker room's provider is WPN, and all the players on this program has benefited tremendously because it's the best rakeback program available today maybe?

At any rate, all rakeback has been processed for 7/4-7/10.

Bullshit.  

The money you make off your comicsans website comes almost entirely from the casino and sportsbook revenue generated by your signups.

Betcoin pays affiliates a commission based on how much rake their signups pay while playing poker and how much they lose in the casino or sportsbook.


Xiao is trying to attract people who play poker by offering to return the affiliate fee he receives for their revenue generated from poker. Xiao has a special deal with Betcoin.  They pay him MORE than the top tier, which allows him to easily poach other affiliates signups and essentially lock up most serious poker players.  If a player signs up under someone else, they create a new account when they hear about Xiao usually.

Many poker players also enjoy gambling on casino games or sports and as a top affiliate,  Xiao receives at least 35% of his players sports losses and 50% of casino losses.  Maybe more (special deal, remember?)! He keeps all that.

Source: https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates

Incorrect.  Another assumption that you were 100% sure about that you got wrong.  Please man, I really don't have time for your antics.  I've got another job besides managing all my players' RB.

[TwitchySeal]

A few things to note:

The spam above this post is from April 12th.

Congrats to Betcoin for the cardschat #3 spot on the blacklist  for July 2016.  Not an easy thing to do.


Solid rep too on this forum...

[Xiaoxiao]

The blacklist also has SWC Poker on there.  Blacklisting both Betcoin and SWC Poker was quite unreasonable.  I don't see a #3 spot.  I just see it as "avoid".  It's also interesting that CardsChat didn't put PokerStars on the list, after they did what many considered very appalling by dishonoring hard earned rewards at the end of the year.

Its reason on why to avoid Betcoin's poker room was also quite unclear and incoherent:



Your post regarding user 'Betcoin.ag' has little to do with this thread.  'Betcoin.ag' received its negative ratings because of its problem with its casino provider.  This is the poker room which has little to do with the casino.  The software is separate and is the same as WPN's software provider, and Betcoin also shares tournaments with WPN.

Also my OP says:

*Please do not spam this thread.

Can you please respect this?


Edit- A day after you posted this, the blacklist has removed Betcoin Poker from the list.  https://www.cardschat.com/blacklisted.php

[TwitchySeal]

*Please do not spam this thread.

Can you please respect this?

I will if you will.

[Xiaoxiao]

Lobby Update:

There are normally around 8-25 active tables running (including Omaha) and the BBJ is approaching 30 bitcoins.  Good luck everyone!

[TwitchySeal]

Currently Betcoin has numerous scam accusations against them that have not been addressed.  They should not be trusted.

[Xiaoxiao]

Currently Betcoin has numerous scam accusations against them that have not been addressed.  They should not be trusted.

You do know that those scam accusations has NOTHING to do with the POKER ROOM, but involves the CASINO SLOTS PROVIDER, correct?  And that it deals with discrepancies with the stated rules of what counts for a slot machine jackpot to hit?  Why spam that here?  The poker room is part of the WPN and uses totally different software providers (identical to ACR, Blackchip, TruePoker).





Also care to explain this:

I don't know what you mean by "abuses his rep" or "etc" but I do not reply to my own post with alts.  

Hey Twitchy nice job.
Seriously, I thought this thread would just be like all the others with betcoin supporters pretending to be even dumber than they actually are.  Nice surprise.

Well I guess Lauda wasnt technically a betcoin supporter.  Guess thats why it ended ok.

Yep I can confirm the cryptosmoker is twitchyseal. Right after i posted on swc thread he gave me a neg feedback with cryptosmoker. Dudes unreal.

Known alts of anyone: User generated  <---They appreciate any contributions.

[TwitchySeal]

The scam accusation has to do with Betcoin lying to players and overall level of scumminess.

They lied about the Badbeat Jackpot.

THey lied about the no colluision freeroll.

They lied about how they deal with cheaters in general.

They lied about over-charging rake.

They lied about me.

They lied about Jason Ort.


I'm not cryptosmoker. 

[Xiaoxiao]

The scam accusation has to do with Betcoin lying to players and overall level of scumminess.

They lied about the Badbeat Jackpot.

THey lied about the no colluision freeroll.

They lied about how they deal with cheaters in general.

They lied about over-charging rake.

They lied about me.

They lied about Jason Ort.


I'm not cryptosmoker.  

By your logic, I can say that you lied about them "lying".  Is a gas station lying when they post the price of gas at 149.909?  Some could argue that that is false/deceptive advertising and hence dishonesty/lying, but no one is going to camp outside of gas stations to protest.  

I've been a reputable member of online communities long before I started working with Betcoin as a poker room advisor and affiliate.  If I'd suspected they were illegitimate, I would not have risked my energy and resources to work with them.

[TwitchySeal]

The scam accusation has to do with Betcoin lying to players and overall level of scumminess.

They lied about the Badbeat Jackpot.

THey lied about the no colluision freeroll.

They lied about how they deal with cheaters in general.

They lied about over-charging rake.

They lied about me.

They lied about Jason Ort.


I'm not cryptosmoker.  

By your logic, I can say that you lied about them "lying".

Sure, you could.  Which is why I post evidence to back up my claims.
Which claim do you think I'm lying about.  Let me know which one you doubt and I'll point you to the post that proves it. 

 Is a gas station lying when they post the price of gas at 149.909?  

No? 

Some could argue that that is false/deceptive advertising and hence dishonesty/lying, but no one is going to camp outside of gas stations to protest.  

It is deceptive, but most marketing strategies are.  They are also heavily regulated to protect the consumer and promote free market.
 

I've been a reputable member of online communities long before I started working with Betcoin as a poker room advisor and affiliate.  If I'd suspected they were illegitimate, I would not have risked my energy and resources to work with them.

I mean, technically they are the definition of a illegitimate online casino.  (Not authorized by law)  But I know you meant something different, I don't know the best word to use either though.

When you started working with Betcoin, you thought they were honest with only good intentions.  I believe that is likely true.

How do you feel about betcoin now, compared to the first few months of working for them.

[Xiaoxiao]

The scam accusation has to do with Betcoin lying to players and overall level of scumminess.

They lied about the Badbeat Jackpot.

THey lied about the no colluision freeroll.

They lied about how they deal with cheaters in general.

They lied about over-charging rake.

They lied about me.

They lied about Jason Ort.


I'm not cryptosmoker.  

By your logic, I can say that you lied about them "lying".

Sure, you could.  Which is why I post evidence to back up my claims.
Which claim do you think I'm lying about.  Let me know which one you doubt and I'll point you to the post that proves it.  

Is a gas station lying when they post the price of gas at 149.909?  

No?  

Some could argue that that is false/deceptive advertising and hence dishonesty/lying, but no one is going to camp outside of gas stations to protest.  

It is deceptive, but most marketing strategies are.  They are also heavily regulated to protect the consumer and promote free market.
 

I've been a reputable member of online communities long before I started working with Betcoin as a poker room advisor and affiliate.  If I'd suspected they were illegitimate, I would not have risked my energy and resources to work with them.

I mean, technically they are the definition of a illegitimate online casino.  (Not authorized by law)  But I know you meant something different, I don't know the best word to use either though.

When you started working with Betcoin, you thought they were honest with only good intentions.  I believe that is likely true.

How do you feel about betcoin now, compared to the first few months of working for them.

I don't work for them.  I try to work with them to a create good poker room environment.  I give input on different aspects, and they decide how to accept my inputs.  

I feel they are steadily improving and becoming more knowledgeable in regards to online poker.  It was a foreign area to them before, and they've picked up on things incredibly fast.  They've made mistakes in the past, without a doubt, and it's costed them, but they have boundaries, meaning they will never cross into what you imply they are capable of doing (running with player's funds, scamming players)

[TwitchySeal]

many players give them feedback, I don't doubt you do as well.  that's not why you have been spamming the same thread with Betcoin promos for over a year now or built a website.  you do that to convince people to sign up and deposit at betcoin.  that's why they pay you.

[Xiaoxiao]

Announcement:  Due to the constant complaining regarding the high percentage I am able to offer, management has notified me that my commission has been reduced.

Beginning the week of August 8th (in 14 days), additional rakeback will be reduced to 33%.  I know this may upset some of you, but this is mandatory.  If I don't make this reduction, I will be operating at a heavy loss, which obviously isn't feasible.

Referrals will continue to be 5% of the player's net rake, which is unbelievably high considering the high volume players will put in on this program.  Many sub affiliates of mine have been consistently getting 50-300 mbtc each week just for referring high volume players dying for a deal like this.

Anyhow, the 33% will be permanent beginning August 8th, and it cannot go any lower in the future.  I will continue to bargain for the highest percentages for you guys.  Take care!

[Xiaoxiao]

(I'm locking this thread immediately after this post due to constant spam and fights itt)


On this lovely Sunday morning, there's currently 134 active players on the site, and 244 players logged into the poker client!  Be prepared for more tournament and poker action as more people wake up!

[Xiaoxiao]

(I'm locking this thread immediately after this post due to constant spam and fights itt)




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Not only can you win nearly $200k+ in one online poker tournament, but you can win it in Bitcoins. We know how much potential Bitcoin has in the future. It was once worth a little more than pennies, and now it is at approximately $650.


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Full list of events: https://www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/oss-cubed/


Register for the tournaments in the lobby. Registration has begun for MOSS:

[TwitchySeal]

betcoin is not a trustworthy site, players do your research

Xiao why spam last week's lobby image for tournaments 2 weeks away?

all you care abut is getting new sign ups who aren't aware of what's going on.  pathetic

[Xiaoxiao]

betcoin is not a trustworthy site, players do your research

Xiao why spam last week's lobby image for tournaments 2 weeks away?

all you care abut is getting new sign ups who aren't aware of what's going on.  pathetic

Letting players know that registration for the MOSS has begun already?  Maybe some people want to pre-register?  Maybe because there is really is insane value in the MOSS, since the last 3 or 4 tournament series has had tremendous overlay?

You're unbelievable.  I forget to lock this thread for 2 minutes and you've already spammed it.  Since we're here let's direct our attention to the fact that you're the prime suspect for the constant DDOS of Betcoin lately (thankfully it can't affect actual game play).

[Xiaoxiao]

All rakeback has been processed for the week of 7/25 - 7/31.  GL everyone!