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May 12, 2015, 09:06:09 PM
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We all remember how after McCain's visit, Bulgaria boycotted the SouthStream project  literally on the day the construction was to be started.
Russia, undeterred to provide an uninterrupted supply of gas to Southern Europe, announced the Turkish Stream.

Then there was suddenly an attempt at a coup in Istanbul.

Now an American representative visited Greece, pressuring them to not to connect to the Turkish Stream, but instead to build their own pipeline (borrowing the money for it from IMF, I presume) from Azerbaijan so as to "provide an alternative secure source of gas for Europe". Never mind that the proposed pipeline would be a quarter of the Turkish Stream capacity, and it's questionable if Azerbaijan would be able to fill up even that. Greece politely told the Americans to mind their own business.

So, enter next step. An Albanian terrorist group suddenly started an insurgency in Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia, threatening with colour revolution there. (Incidentally the same Albanian terrorists, who so successfully, together with NATO bombs, destroyed Yugoslavia). F.Y.R Macedonia is planned to be the next transit state for the Turkish Stream pipeline after Greece.

And for the bigger picture: Yemen is a big success in dragging Saudis in to the armed conflict. 15% of Shiite population reside on the territory of Saudi Arabia that produces most of its gas and oil. In case the conflict spills into SA, USA may well support creation of an independent state out of that territory (an opposite stance of that applied to Novorossia). And according to one analysis that I read, this Middle Eastern conflict is expected to spill over to other countries, including Azerbaijan.

The circle is now complete.

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May 13, 2015, 05:58:35 AM
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Gas is still not very high compared to what it was once here.  I do not think it is quite a war...... seems pretty slow move on price if there was a war.
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May 13, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
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Most of the countries between Turkey and the west are already colonized, so I wouldn't expect wars. Political and economical pressure, some limited and targeted unrest, maybe silencing or bribing those who opposing their plans are more likely options. Macedonia is a candidate for joining the EU and has applied for NATO membership, so it isn't an issue for the west.
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May 16, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
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An analysis by Starikov:

http://fortruss.blogspot.com.es/2015/05/macedonia-next-hot-spot-after-ukraine.html

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May 16, 2015, 12:11:19 PM
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Gas is still not very high compared to what it was once here.  I do not think it is quite a war...... seems pretty slow move on price if there was a war.

Gas prices are directly linked to the oil prices, but with a time lag. Right now, the spot gas prices are calculated, considering oil at $50 per barrel. After 2-3 months, the gas prices will increase, as the calculation will be done at current rates ($67 per barrel). So don't get fooled by the current low prices for gas. They will increase significantly in the near future.
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May 25, 2015, 03:03:54 PM
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Most of the countries between Turkey and the west are already colonized, so I wouldn't expect wars. Political and economical pressure, some limited and targeted unrest, maybe silencing or bribing those who opposing their plans are more likely options. Macedonia is a candidate for joining the EU and has applied for NATO membership, so it isn't an issue for the west.

Never underestimate the power of the dark side democratic correction. The current Macedonian government is Russia-neutral and is likely to sign the deal to make Macedonia a gas transit country. This is bad for those, whose declared objective is full spectrum dominance. This dominance implies subjugation of Europe. Europe having access to a reliable and relatively cheap source of energy makes it pretty independent and this is bad. So first some pressure was applied in Bulgaria. And now Macedonia sees first an insurgence of Albanian terrorists, and then building of a "protest" tent city in front of the government. Add Nuland with her trademark cookies and some unidentified snipers at a later point and the picture will become complete...

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May 25, 2015, 06:47:43 PM
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At the time of Tony Blais appointment as advisor to Serbia, I found it very strange but now it is becoming clearer


Former UK PM Tony Blair is to receive funding to advise Serbia's Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic, British media report.

Sixteen years back, Blair was among politicians at the spearhead of the NATO bombing campaigns carried out against Belgrade during the Kosovo War. Vucic himself was Minister of Information of former Yugoslavia at the time.

The United Arab Emirates is apparently funding the deal, the reports of which emerged first in The Guardian, citing Serbian sources. They argue the contract was signed by Blair's private consultancy, Tony Blair Associates.

Vucic himself has been very critical of Blair over the years, and the latest reports have prompted accusations from the opposition.

http://www.novinite.com/articles/166675/Tony+Blair+to+Advise+Serbian+PM+Aleksandar+Vucic


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May 25, 2015, 06:54:56 PM
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The "wars" will not be the ones your thinking of but instead more of a economical warfare sanctions etc...
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May 26, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
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The "wars" will not be the ones your thinking of but instead more of a economical warfare sanctions etc...

Few of the present day wars involve active warfare. Either they are fought through the use of proxies (like the case in Ukraine), or through a process of economic interference (Iran, Cuba.etc). An all out war will be damaging to all the parties involved. And the loss of personnel might cause unrest back home. So, the economic mode is more preferable.
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