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July 11, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
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Guys wtf I'm mining @ 1000+MH/s with 3 miners EACH and haven't found a block last 48 hours Huh

There has to be a pool hoarding all the blocks or what huh  Huh

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July 11, 2015, 11:00:37 PM
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Hey everyone I just heard about Sia and am really excited about a working decentralized storage system! An encrypted, safe, and reliable backup system is something that's really needed right now and I want to thank the devs and community members for all their hard work.

I hope one day social media will be built on top of Sia's platform as well.  I wanted to try out Sia so I've uploaded a picture I took recently on a trip and you can get the Ascii file code here: http://textuploader.com/8ar3.  It's amazing how much cheaper and safer this system is than other storage solutions.  If you like my picture you can check out some of my other photos on my Instagram @aspigler.  If people enjoy it I'll continue uploading pictures to Sia and hopefully one day a decentralized Instagram will use Sia's technology.  I can't wait for the next 0.4.0 release!

Nice pictures! Thanks!

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July 12, 2015, 03:46:17 AM
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WilderX , dont worry , its normal in solo mining .
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July 12, 2015, 04:07:36 AM
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Hi, i am new to the coin here, how do i get started on selling storage space?
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July 12, 2015, 11:22:15 PM
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For those interested in trying more beta software, check out staging.siafiles.com

Currently, the site only works with '.sia' files, which are a lot like .torrent files. Unfortunately, you can't use '.sia' files with the UI, you have to use siac. To create a file, run
Code:
siac renter share [nickname] [outputname.sia]
To load a file into sia, run
Code:
siac renter load [filename.sia]
Then the UI should show the file, and you should be able to download it. Or you can download it from siac using
Code:
siac renter download [nickname] [the/place/to/download/file.jpg]

In the next week or so we will be adding ascii support. The code for staging.siafiles.com can be found here: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sunfish/tree/staging

Eventually, sunfish will be directly integrated into the UI.

Additional things in the roadmap:

+ Multi-GB uploads, instead of capping at 500mb
+ uploading entire folders, instead of just 1 file at a time
+ rewritten, plugin-based UI (with tutorials for how to make your own plugins
+ exchange friendly wallet API
+ safer wallets (pregenerated addresses, encrypted wallet files, unique filenames for all wallets)
+ faster blockchain download + verification
+ smaller memory footprint for siad (currently between 1GB & 2GB, I believe we can get it to 1/4 of that)
+ no need to restart siad after loading new addresses or wallets, rescanning will be automatic (but may take a few minutes)

Taek, for the roadmap the most important thing in my opinion for mass adoption is Dropbox style user interface and file contracts need to be renewed automatically and not manually!! People should not need to upload all their files again and again it has to be a cloud where people can trust their files will stay forever or until their wallet runs out of Sia agreed??

This here is really the one thing that will define the success of Sia vs competition please make it priority if it already isnt. It has to be really easy and candyland for the masses or there is no success ok?

Good job team really awesome project!

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July 12, 2015, 11:43:52 PM
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For those interested in trying more beta software, check out staging.siafiles.com

Currently, the site only works with '.sia' files, which are a lot like .torrent files. Unfortunately, you can't use '.sia' files with the UI, you have to use siac. To create a file, run
Code:
siac renter share [nickname] [outputname.sia]
To load a file into sia, run
Code:
siac renter load [filename.sia]
Then the UI should show the file, and you should be able to download it. Or you can download it from siac using
Code:
siac renter download [nickname] [the/place/to/download/file.jpg]

In the next week or so we will be adding ascii support. The code for staging.siafiles.com can be found here: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sunfish/tree/staging

Eventually, sunfish will be directly integrated into the UI.

Additional things in the roadmap:

+ Multi-GB uploads, instead of capping at 500mb
+ uploading entire folders, instead of just 1 file at a time
+ rewritten, plugin-based UI (with tutorials for how to make your own plugins
+ exchange friendly wallet API
+ safer wallets (pregenerated addresses, encrypted wallet files, unique filenames for all wallets)
+ faster blockchain download + verification
+ smaller memory footprint for siad (currently between 1GB & 2GB, I believe we can get it to 1/4 of that)
+ no need to restart siad after loading new addresses or wallets, rescanning will be automatic (but may take a few minutes)

Taek, for the roadmap the most important thing in my opinion for mass adoption is Dropbox style user interface and file contracts need to be renewed automatically and not manually!! People should not need to upload all their files again and again it has to be a cloud where people can trust their files will stay forever or until their wallet runs out of Sia agreed??

This here is really the one thing that will define the success of Sia vs competition please make it priority if it already isnt. It has to be really easy and candyland for the masses or there is no success ok?

Good job team really awesome project!

Careful - there needs to be a VERY explicit way to enable renewing, or people may accidentally spend Sia they didn't mean to.

Yes I agree, but this function is REALLY important! I for example have almost 7000 files in my dropbox. This trust that I have always access to all the files I could need from anywhere is VERY ATTRACTIVE and I can trust they are there in the cloud and no need to upkeep it somehow it's perfect I can't image wanting to use a software if it means I have to manually renew 1000's of file contracts! The only more perfect Dropbox would be if it would be decentralized and cheaper (for larger storages). This is where SIA has a potential market!

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July 14, 2015, 02:16:51 AM
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Wolf0 and Wilderx, both very good points.

Taek,

any estimated time for 4.00 release?  Smiley Would rather you take your time however and address so many things that have been noted along the way and have a truly improved user friendly release.

Ok, still excited about the future of SIA... can't wait to see it really turning heads one day and getting wide acceptance.

Keep up the good work. Don't get discouraged in any way. This is a cool concept and there is a need for it. Big project for sure  Wink

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July 14, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
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Careful - there needs to be a VERY explicit way to enable renewing, or people may accidentally spend Sia they didn't mean to.

What is more important: lost files or pay accidentally for renewing?


Sia's renewing system could be based on spending account dedicated only to spending sia for automatic files renewing. More important thing is to be alerted when spending account is running low --> I will lost my files.

This could be like dropbox with credit system, I have sia -> I have files. No sia -> no files.

"Sia money = time for files". How much time do I have for my uploaded files based on my spending account. When I upload more files it will show me less time. 

Then you can limit life of the files by simply limit funds in spending account.

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July 16, 2015, 03:25:05 AM
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Siacoin total is 45 billion ?  Grin
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July 16, 2015, 07:20:01 AM
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Taek, for the roadmap the most important thing in my opinion for mass adoption is Dropbox style user interface and file contracts need to be renewed automatically and not manually!! People should not need to upload all their files again and again it has to be a cloud where people can trust their files will stay forever or until their wallet runs out of Sia agreed??

This here is really the one thing that will define the success of Sia vs competition please make it priority if it already isnt. It has to be really easy and candyland for the masses or there is no success ok?

Good job team really awesome project!

Careful - there needs to be a VERY explicit way to enable renewing, or people may accidentally spend Sia they didn't mean to.

The approach we're planning on taking is having spending limits + warnings. In the renter config, you'll set spending limits and have it give you a warning if you start to approach those limits. The default will be $10 (converting that to siacoin). Contracts will renew automatically so long as you don't exceed the limit, and you'll get a warning some time in advance (hopefully a few weeks) if you start to run low.

There will also be better tools for automating the uploading process.


any estimated time for 4.00 release?  Smiley Would rather you take your time however and address so many things that have been noted along the way and have a truly improved user friendly release.

We're aiming at August 15th.
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July 17, 2015, 04:16:37 PM
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We're aiming at August 15th.
 
Thanks for that update. The 15th, wow not that far off  Smiley sounds good!

 
 
 

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July 18, 2015, 02:10:57 AM
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Taek, for the roadmap the most important thing in my opinion for mass adoption is Dropbox style user interface and file contracts need to be renewed automatically and not manually!! People should not need to upload all their files again and again it has to be a cloud where people can trust their files will stay forever or until their wallet runs out of Sia agreed??

This here is really the one thing that will define the success of Sia vs competition please make it priority if it already isnt. It has to be really easy and candyland for the masses or there is no success ok?

Good job team really awesome project!

Careful - there needs to be a VERY explicit way to enable renewing, or people may accidentally spend Sia they didn't mean to.

The approach we're planning on taking is having spending limits + warnings. In the renter config, you'll set spending limits and have it give you a warning if you start to approach those limits. The default will be $10 (converting that to siacoin). Contracts will renew automatically so long as you don't exceed the limit, and you'll get a warning some time in advance (hopefully a few weeks) if you start to run low.

There will also be better tools for automating the uploading process.


any estimated time for 4.00 release?  Smiley Would rather you take your time however and address so many things that have been noted along the way and have a truly improved user friendly release.

We're aiming at August 15th.

taek - how easy will it be to transfer coin from the previous wallets to the 4.0? ...

we still have lots of coins in many wallets which we havent transferred due to the loss of tens of thousands of sia from our previous try ...

can we have ONE address as a master address in the wallet that is the transfer address and the wallet can continue to generate the 'standard' addresses for transactional purposes? ...

thats the main reason we stopped mining sia ( but obviously still have a huge interest in the project - and will still support in other ways ) due to the high risk of losing millions upon millions of siacoin if we try to move them from the wallets ...

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July 19, 2015, 11:34:04 AM
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Taek, for the roadmap the most important thing in my opinion for mass adoption is Dropbox style user interface and file contracts need to be renewed automatically and not manually!! People should not need to upload all their files again and again it has to be a cloud where people can trust their files will stay forever or until their wallet runs out of Sia agreed??

This here is really the one thing that will define the success of Sia vs competition please make it priority if it already isnt. It has to be really easy and candyland for the masses or there is no success ok?

Good job team really awesome project!

Careful - there needs to be a VERY explicit way to enable renewing, or people may accidentally spend Sia they didn't mean to.

The approach we're planning on taking is having spending limits + warnings. In the renter config, you'll set spending limits and have it give you a warning if you start to approach those limits. The default will be $10 (converting that to siacoin). Contracts will renew automatically so long as you don't exceed the limit, and you'll get a warning some time in advance (hopefully a few weeks) if you start to run low.

There will also be better tools for automating the uploading process.


any estimated time for 4.00 release?  Smiley Would rather you take your time however and address so many things that have been noted along the way and have a truly improved user friendly release.

We're aiming at August 15th.
good job, this upgrade may see siafounds?

Sorry for my broken English XD
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July 19, 2015, 01:18:25 PM
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A nice article about what Sia might become - http://blog.siacoin.com/2015/07/08/the-dream-of-sia/
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July 20, 2015, 02:21:32 AM
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taek - how easy will it be to transfer coin from the previous wallets to the 4.0? ...

we still have lots of coins in many wallets which we havent transferred due to the loss of tens of thousands of sia from our previous try ...

can we have ONE address as a master address in the wallet that is the transfer address and the wallet can continue to generate the 'standard' addresses for transactional purposes? ...

thats the main reason we stopped mining sia ( but obviously still have a huge interest in the project - and will still support in other ways ) due to the high risk of losing millions upon millions of siacoin if we try to move them from the wallets ...

#crysx

Wallet safety is one of our top concerns this upgrade. We will have both recovery tools and stronger protections against losing coins in the first place. I feel like the issues with the wallet are one of the biggest things holding us back right now. I can't promise that it'll be perfect, but it will be much better.

good job, this upgrade may see siafounds?

We hope so. We are still primarily focused on getting more people to use the storage app. If siafunds aren't ready by 0.4.0, they should be ready by 0.4.1 or 0.4.2, which will hopefully be 2-3 weeks later.
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July 20, 2015, 02:28:52 AM
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taek - how easy will it be to transfer coin from the previous wallets to the 4.0? ...

we still have lots of coins in many wallets which we havent transferred due to the loss of tens of thousands of sia from our previous try ...

can we have ONE address as a master address in the wallet that is the transfer address and the wallet can continue to generate the 'standard' addresses for transactional purposes? ...

thats the main reason we stopped mining sia ( but obviously still have a huge interest in the project - and will still support in other ways ) due to the high risk of losing millions upon millions of siacoin if we try to move them from the wallets ...

#crysx

Wallet safety is one of our top concerns this upgrade. We will have both recovery tools and stronger protections against losing coins in the first place. I feel like the issues with the wallet are one of the biggest things holding us back right now. I can't promise that it'll be perfect, but it will be much better.

good job, this upgrade may see siafounds?

We hope so. We are still primarily focused on getting more people to use the storage app. If siafunds aren't ready by 0.4.0, they should be ready by 0.4.1 or 0.4.2, which will hopefully be 2-3 weeks later.

tanx taek ... but does that also encompass coin transfers from older wallets to the new ones? ...

that would be a good thing ... especially because we use linux - things are a little more difficult ...

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July 20, 2015, 02:29:57 AM
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What we really need is a very simple step-by-step walk through on how everyone can; download the client, acquire Siacoins, upload their files, and maintain their storage.  I haven't seen that really posted anywhere and it should definitely be on Siacoin.com
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July 20, 2015, 03:51:42 AM
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New Sia Explorer Alpha!
Great!  Roll Eyes
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July 20, 2015, 05:36:28 PM
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New Sia Explorer Alpha!
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Ah, just saw that now  Wink

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July 20, 2015, 08:42:35 PM
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What we really need is a very simple step-by-step walk through on how everyone can; download the client, acquire Siacoins, upload their files, and maintain their storage.  I haven't seen that really posted anywhere and it should definitely be on Siacoin.com

Sometime late August we're going to be rolling out 'learn.siacoin.com' which will have a bunch of info about Sia. It'll have pages/sections targeted at developers, and it'll have pages/sections targeted at users. Every common problem with have a page explaining the fix, and every common question will have a page with the answer.

We've neglected doing this so far because we feel Sia is still too-beta to merit the effort. But with 0.4.0 I think things will finally be cooling down a bit. Once people seem to be using Sia comfortably, we'll start to ramp up the marketing significantly.


tanx taek ... but does that also encompass coin transfers from older wallets to the new ones? ...

that would be a good thing ... especially because we use linux - things are a little more difficult ...

#crysx

Yes, it will include transfering coins from old wallets into new wallets or merged wallets. We'll also release a tutorial about how to upgrade safely. This time around, it will be much harder to accidentally lose coins when upgrading. Again, I can't promise that it'll be perfect, but it should be substantially improved.
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