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March 23, 2018, 09:31:26 PM
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someone knows is there any option/sites to by SIA or any other crypto paying by credit card?
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March 23, 2018, 10:08:44 PM
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someone knows is there any option/sites to by SIA or any other crypto paying by credit card?

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March 24, 2018, 01:56:46 PM
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Everyone speculates about whether SIA will rise or fall, but how many take the time to read up on what SIA is and why it might be used?  I thought, hey let's find out what it takes to actually use this system.  What do I have to do to host?  How cheap or expensive is it to rent storage space?  Interestingly, Siatech doesn't have this basic information (why not?).  You eventually find a link to a "third party" site called SiaSetup.

Right now, I would say SIA is way too complicated to gain wide user adoption.  And the website says it is not aimed at individuals, it is more for 'enterprises' which I think is a huge strategic mistake.  I think SIA could take off if it focused on individuals first and not enterprises.  Win over loyal individuals and they will market your product to the enterprises they end up working at.

Whether a hoster or a renter, your SIA wallet needs to be running most if not all of the time.  If, as a host, your computer goes down, you pay penalties (loss of posted SIA collateral).  If as a renter you do not "top off' your credits every 6 weeks, your 3 month contract may elapse and when it does, your data goes POOF.  There are too many penalties as I read SiaSetup for hosters and renters.  The average storage price, 18 SIA per Terabyte, per month, is attractive.  But by default SIA slices and dices your data and distributes it to 30 hosts, and you have pay for a contract with each host.  The contract rate, at least as it appears on SiaSetup is more expensive than storage which doesn't make much sense.

And you can only retrieve your data from the same computer you uploaded your data from.  Think about that.  Well, actually, you can backup all your SIA data files and copy them over to another computer.  But the first time you upload or download a file, then you have to recopy everything all over if you want to retrieve the files from a different system.  I had to re-read this part it is so incredibly user unfriendly.  If my files are chopped up and encrypted in the cloud, half of the value proposition to me is that I can grab them from anywhere there is an Internet connection.  But not so with Sia.  This is one of those wtf are you thinking types of flaws.

I use Mega and it is easy, relatively intuitive, convenient, and not that expensive.  I was attracted to SIA because I thought it might be a distributed, more redundant, more secure, better type of Mega for storing files.  SIA is not that in its current incarnation, which is a shame.  I love the idea of distributed, redundant, encrypted hosting.  That's a powerful capability.  But I think renters, for example, should have some sort of grace period if they are late on topping off their credits before their files are deleted.  And I wonder (it's not explained on Siasetup) whether auto-notifications warn renters about the impending deletion of their data?  And while I understand the thought behind making hosts pay when their computer goes down, I think the cost to the hosting entity should be smaller.  There are power losses beyond the ability of conscientious people to avoid those mishaps.

For hosting, you need a minimum of 4 free TB or you are penalized.  And you start out being penalized because you haven't earned "trust" yet and it takes six weeks or more to climb out of that hole.  This seems to do nothing more than skew hosting towards those who were early in setting up their storage and who now have, by virtue of time, a higher trust score.  I don't like this.  If you want to measure trust, it should be based on some short rolling average of up-time for the host.  Maybe it is, but this is not well explained on SiaSetup.  And if I am correct, this is a somewhat suspect way to tilt the field towards those who got into SIA right from the beginning.

It's no wonder to me that there is plenty of empty, un-rented, unused storage at the moment.  SIA is not friendly or easily accessible to individuals in the way that Mega is.  I hope that the developers really work on making the entire ecosystem much easier to jump into -- both for persons who wish to rent out unused HD space, and for persons (not just enterprises!) that want a better alternative to Mega, or Amazon, or the greatest privacy destroying data sponge of them all -- Google.

SIA is a great idea.  But the implementation for end users is too complicated to gain widespread adoption anytime soon.  KISS.  This is all fixable and I hope to see more efforts both on the main webpage and in the software to make hosting and renting storage space an easy, painless, experience.  The world doesn't need another payment token.  The world does need a better way to store files privately and beyond the ability of governments and other individuals to spy on that data.  The developers clearly recognize this but they aren't making it easy for Joe sixpack to use their system.  At least not yet.

In the meantime, just because I like challenges, I am going to set up hosting.  And maybe someone should have a talk with Kim Dotcom.  Just saying.


Great text mate!

I did download and install sia wallet once, but never ended up using it, and now I have a different pc... havent bothered installing it again. And the reason really is because I think its a bit too complicated.

I do hodl SIA for a long time already, but they are still on my bittrex account...

They definitely need to improve user friendlyness.

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March 24, 2018, 03:30:54 PM
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Great text mate!

I did download and install sia wallet once, but never ended up using it, and now I have a different pc... havent bothered installing it again. And the reason really is because I think its a bit too complicated.

I do hodl SIA for a long time already, but they are still on my bittrex account...

They definitely need to improve user friendlyness.

yes i agree
when the release of a light wallet or integration on ledger or trezor?
i can't even believe that a coin with a daily trading of several millions can't improve their wallet
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March 25, 2018, 05:16:38 AM
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I do not understand why negative news keeps coming.
The last is a japanese country that makes stupid news.
That would make altcoin more and more destroyed.
That shouldn't be an excuse to anyone who has financial interest in the network.
I'm an optimist but when the supply is more than the demand, the price will go definitely down. And the news does not affect.

I think the bad news in the world is very influential.
If yesterday the G20 meeting was negative about cryptocurrency.
All crypto will drop dramatically.
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March 25, 2018, 05:50:11 AM
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I do not understand why negative news keeps coming.
The last is a japanese country that makes stupid news.
That would make altcoin more and more destroyed.
That shouldn't be an excuse to anyone who has financial interest in the network.
I'm an optimist but when the supply is more than the demand, the price will go definitely down. And the news does not affect.

I think the bad news in the world is very influential.
If yesterday the G20 meeting was negative about cryptocurrency.
All crypto will drop dramatically.



Here's the result of the G20 and it looks like a very positive result, 15 countries legalize crypto and let's hope Japan does not make a bad news. That will make bitcoin and crypto worse off.
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March 25, 2018, 02:06:17 PM
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If dates are not officially announced its not true. Discussed this yesterday, on sia.tech the trello board
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Last edit: March 25, 2018, 05:50:13 PM by Cimmy_revenger
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yess, positive response from SC coin users last few days.
after seeing the results of the G20 Yesterday.
SC is slow for grow up.
slow but its sure for future.

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March 25, 2018, 05:27:46 PM
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I think that cryptocurrency nowadays (and blockchain technology) develops that fast that it can't be ignored anymore.
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March 25, 2018, 05:33:28 PM
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For those running the sia backbone for storage, how it exists now, how is the interface? Is it working ok?

Anything of note coming to help you guys with this process soon?

Just lurking, not running any of this, just wondering if the interface has improved to at least

toss any comments of note to us NOT doing any of this...just seeing how this part of sia-tech's plan is working (or not so much)

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March 25, 2018, 07:30:25 PM
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Greetings to all the supporters of decentralized storage Smiley
 
We are Market.space, a decentralized host aggregator, and we'll be accepting the tokens of the two leading decentralized storage systems, Sia Tech and Storj. Siacoin and STORJ will be exchanged for MASP, Market.space token, at their current price all through the ICO period,  April 16 - May 27.
 
Why? We'd love those who are already into decentralized storage to discover the new facets of it.
 
You may learn more at our website, and ask your questions in our official Telegram group and Bitcointalk thread
 

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For those running the sia backbone for storage, how it exists now, how is the interface? Is it working ok?

Anything of note coming to help you guys with this process soon?

Just lurking, not running any of this, just wondering if the interface has improved to at least

toss any comments of note to us NOT doing any of this...just seeing how this part of sia-tech's plan is working (or not so much)

brad


Hi, i run a host for now o er a year. Works without issues.
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March 25, 2018, 10:46:19 PM
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Why Siacoin  has beaten to death in this market?  where will it find the bottom if bTC prices goes further down?  is  0.005$  possible?
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March 25, 2018, 10:47:57 PM
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Hello, I do not know if it's the right place ...But anybody knows when sia wallet will be ok on Poloniex or nobody cares?
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March 26, 2018, 01:08:45 AM
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Reading through the thread I’ve decided to join in buying some coins.

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March 26, 2018, 02:25:17 AM
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For those running the sia backbone for storage, how it exists now, how is the interface? Is it working ok?

Anything of note coming to help you guys with this process soon?

Just lurking, not running any of this, just wondering if the interface has improved to at least

toss any comments of note to us NOT doing any of this...just seeing how this part of sia-tech's plan is working (or not so much)

brad


Hi, i run a host for now o er a year. Works without issues.

I heard the GUI sucks (compared to storj) and other user end issues putting it behind ...also did those minerbox's ever ship from last summer or was that a dead end

we need ease of use for newbs like me to set this up for giggles..tried like 3 months ago ..threw up my hands

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March 26, 2018, 02:30:48 AM
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I think it's a very good entry for people interested in Sia right now

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March 26, 2018, 04:39:19 AM
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Reading through the thread I’ve decided to join in buying some coins.


Good decision!
Soon SIA will show the world that all who say bad will regret it.
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March 26, 2018, 08:28:17 AM
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Hello, I do not know if it's the right place ...But anybody knows when sia wallet will be ok on Poloniex or nobody cares?

The right place would probably be Poloniex support. Personally I don't care. Do you urgently need to transfer siacoin to or out of Poloniex?

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The right place would probably be Poloniex support. Personally I don't care. Do you urgently need to transfer siacoin to or out of Poloniex?
Don't panic, don't FOMO are keys to get profits in crazy crypto market.
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