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Question: Would a reasonable person look at this title and assume it was a charitable organization?  (Voting closed: May 15, 2015, 12:44:53 PM)
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May 14, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
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May 14, 2015, 05:11:18 PM
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You clearly refuse to go read it, so I'm bringing it to you. 

I told you that the data is there and that it proves my claims so I'm providing it.

So that is your idea of proof, is it?  An anonymous scammer's words?

SPONSORS AND SUPPORTERS - Look at your glorious leader and his train of thought!  Is this the person you want to be in charge of your coins?




Again, what coins are you talking about?

I gave you an article about PI and apparently you skipped right pass it.


 
PICISI is a crowdfunding startup designed to accept many different national currencies such as USD, GBP, and EUR, but it will also have a high concentration of cryptocurrencies such as BTC (bitcoin), EMC2 (Einsteinium), HYPER (HYPER), and Doge (Doge), to name only 4 of over 1300.

PICISI will have its own currency called “Pi”, Pi will help finance the crowdfunding site’s growth and development. This article will take a closer look at Pi and how it will help PICISI make a big impact in the cryptocurrency universe as will as the crowdfunding space.

1)  Pi will have many purposes in the development of PICISI: firstly it will be used to raise capital – it will finance initial website construction as well as site upgrades. A major expense is the cost of license procurement from state to state and country to country, it is expected to be over a million dollars worth of licenses, this cost would be spread out to minimize impact.

2)  Pi will be used to pay for PICISI assignments – the main day-to-day use of Pi will be to pay for the enormous amount of marketing, outreach, and publicity the site plans on generating. PICISI’s mantra is ‘Promotion, Promotion, Promotion’.

PICISI’s intent is to do lots of promoting for itself as well as it’s sponsors and the campaigns raising funds at the site. It’s important to note that most crowdfunding sites rarely promote the campaigns featured at their site.

3)  Pi will be a host CC option – campaign organizers will have the opportunity to select PI as the host cryptocurrency for their campaign and;

4)  PI will be a payment option for sponsors – sponsors will be able to pay for sponsorship packages using PI.

The value of Pi will largely be determined by the open market, however PICISI’s performance should have some impact on the currency’s value. It is expected that Pi’s price respond positively to the Initial Token Offering. Once it is used on a daily basis (as indicated above) the currency value should show signs of stabilizing. It is also expected dip in value at the times when funds are pulled to pay for major projects like site upgrades and license procurement.

PICISI is targeting various cryptocurrency exchanges to be their Official Exchange Sponsor. The official exchange sponsor’s site is where PICISI will exclusively purchase PICISI currency using the fees they generate via fiat.
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May 14, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
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I gave you an article about PI and apparently you skipped right pass it.

Yep - your words are backed by nothing.  They are not worth the energy to display them.

Quote whatever article you want - doesn't change what you are - an anonymous charity hustler.

Today I contacted one sponsor - tomorrow I'll contact the rest and simply point them to this thread.  I'll let everyone read for themselves what type of "world executive director" you think you'll be.  What do you think they'll do when they see you write that you're not actually a charity, and you just claimed to be one?  

If enough of them ask for their charitable donations back, you might just pull a runner.   Wink

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May 14, 2015, 05:17:18 PM
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PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas) <snip>

<snip>...tell everyone else in the world all about PICISI.

Also, the fact that you are spamming large chunks of copy/paste which are not related to the OP, makes me trust you less by the second.

I'm providing facts that support my claims, I'm supplying evidence that refutes many of Vods  misguided assumptions.   

The data, it's of course your chose to read it or not.   

Yes, I've read it.
It is not data as in information, it's you quoting your own PR wishlist. And irrelevant to the OP and the poll.


PICISI is not, nor will it be, a charity...Yes, the word "charity" is in the acronym, so too are the words 'Philanthropic' and 'Investment'; we are not a philanthropic company, or an investment company either. 

This begs the question, if PICISI is none of these things, why are these words in its name, in this order-
Philanthropic Investment and Charity
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May 14, 2015, 05:51:54 PM
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What is the purpose behind this thread?
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May 14, 2015, 05:53:44 PM
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I gave you an article about PI and apparently you skipped right pass it.

Yep - your words are backed by nothing.  They are not worth the energy to display them.

Quote whatever article you want - doesn't change what you are - an anonymous charity hustler.

Today I contacted one sponsor - tomorrow I'll contact the rest and simply point them to this thread.  I'll let everyone read for themselves what type of "world executive director" you think you'll be.  What do you think they'll do when they see you write that you're not actually a charity, and you just claimed to be one?  

If enough of them ask for their charitable donations back, you might just pull a runner.  
Wink


Vod, if that is your intent and I'm confident that you are in for a very big surprise.  Remember, I'll be surprised if ANY believe what you believe with about that charity nonsense. 

And I'll be additionally surprised if any of them will feel the need to have a refund.  What I won't be surprised at is if they have doubts because you sown needless fear. 


The fact of the matter is FUD is part of the process, Tecshare was the very first person to respond to a PICISI thread of course he unload a wad of bitterness, I was advised to simply create a new thread and to make it self-mod.  I didn't like the tone of that so I passed, it has remain ever since.   

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What is the purpose behind this thread?

I think 'destroy' the reputation of an user... but I do not know which reputation will be destroyed or ruined (but I do not think it is necessary a thread, maybe it is better to discuss privately).
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May 14, 2015, 05:56:55 PM
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Vod, if that is your intent and I'm confident that you are in for a very big surprise.  Remember, I'll be surprised if ANY believe what you believe with about that charity nonsense.  

And I'll be additionally surprised if any of them will feel the need to have a refund.  What I won't be surprised at is if they have doubts because you sown needless fear.  

I'm just going to tell them two things:

1) You aren't a charity organization
2) You aren't a legal corporation

Both statements of fact, but statements that will contradict what they believe about you.

I'll let your past posts destroy whatever credibility you have left.   Wink

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May 14, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
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What is the purpose behind this thread?

I think 'destroy' the reputation of an user... but I do not what reputation will be destroyed or ruined (but I do not think it is necessary a thread, maybe it is better to discuss privately).

Most things in BCT seem to have a sub text, but I just responded to the original post at face value: i.e. Does giving an enterprise a name/acronym containing words like "Charity" and "Philanthropy" imply that that entity is charitable and philanthropic?

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May 14, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
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Vod, if that is your intent and I'm confident that you are in for a very big surprise.  Remember, I'll be surprised if ANY believe what you believe with about that charity nonsense.  

And I'll be additionally surprised if any of them will feel the need to have a refund.  What I won't be surprised at is if they have doubts because you sown needless fear.  

I'm just going to tell them two things:

1) You aren't a charity organization
2) You aren't a legal corporation

Both statements of fact, but statements that will contradict what they believe about you.

I'll let your past posts destroy whatever credibility you have left.   Wink


There you go suggesting in order to lead.  Like I said numerous times, you are assuming bad things where they don't exist. 

Your actions are not authorized in any way by me.  I told you that your actions in this regard are shameful, reckless, and irresponsible but you are clear hell bend to being destructive. . 





 

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May 14, 2015, 06:47:54 PM
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I told you that your actions in this regard are shameful, reckless, and irresponsible but you are clear hell bend to being destructive. .  

I believe I told you the same thing about passively pretending (not correcting people when they assume) you are a charity, and trying to collect coins as an anonymous "Executive Director".   Undecided

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What is the purpose behind this thread?

I think 'destroy' the reputation of an user... but I do not what reputation will be destroyed or ruined (but I do not think it is necessary a thread, maybe it is better to discuss privately).

Most things in BCT seem to have a sub text, but I just responded to the original post at face value: i.e. Does giving an enterprise a name/acronym containing words like "Charity" and "Philanthropy" imply that that entity is charitable and philanthropic?

No, it doesn't (this is obvious). The 'enterprise' should also act and do something to prove that it is really charitable and/or philanthropic.
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May 14, 2015, 07:01:50 PM
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I clicked this thread because I thought it was about a charity.
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May 14, 2015, 07:04:40 PM
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What services are being provided by PICISI at what cost to the people who would invest / pay for said services?

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May 14, 2015, 07:07:11 PM
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I clicked this thread because I thought it was about a charity.


the OP lead you in that direction by making the suggestion in the question.  so its reasonable to make that selection.

had you looked up PICISI you likely would not have made that selection because you would have known what it was.

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May 14, 2015, 07:08:23 PM
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What is the purpose behind this thread?

I think 'destroy' the reputation of an user... but I do not what reputation will be destroyed or ruined (but I do not think it is necessary a thread, maybe it is better to discuss privately).

Most things in BCT seem to have a sub text, but I just responded to the original post at face value: i.e. Does giving an enterprise a name/acronym containing words like "Charity" and "Philanthropy" imply that that entity is charitable and philanthropic?

No, it doesn't (this is obvious). The 'enterprise' should also act and do something to prove that it is really charitable and/or philanthropic.

We'll have to disagree on that then, as it's not obvious to me.
I voted yes in answer to this question, given your answer above you would answer no, then?


The question is simple:
PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas)
Would a reasonable person look at this title and assume it was a charitable organization?  


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I clicked this thread because I thought it was about a charity.


the OP lead you in that direction by making the suggestion in the question.  so its reasonable to make that selection.

had you looked up PICISI you likely would not have made that selection because you would have known what it was.



No, I read the current thread title a couple of minutes ago.  I've never heard of PICISI before, to my knowledge.  I thought it was possibly a charity Vod was representing.

The tread title that led me to think this is:

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Re: PICISI: Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas

Edit:  In consideration of redsn0w's post below me, I did not place a vote, either.
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What is the purpose behind this thread?

I think 'destroy' the reputation of an user... but I do not what reputation will be destroyed or ruined (but I do not think it is necessary a thread, maybe it is better to discuss privately).

Most things in BCT seem to have a sub text, but I just responded to the original post at face value: i.e. Does giving an enterprise a name/acronym containing words like "Charity" and "Philanthropy" imply that that entity is charitable and philanthropic?

No, it doesn't (this is obvious). The 'enterprise' should also act and do something to prove that it is really charitable and/or philanthropic.

We'll have to disagree on that then, as it's not obvious to me.
I voted yes in answer to this question, given your answer above you would answer no, then?


The question is simple:
PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas)
Would a reasonable person look at this title and assume it was a charitable organization?  



Sincerely, I have not participated to this poll. Simply, because it can be manipulated so it is better a simple post as reply (to spot all the probable alt-account).



PS: but yes, most probably I would choose "Yes".
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May 14, 2015, 07:31:33 PM
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What is the purpose behind this thread?

I think 'destroy' the reputation of an user... but I do not what reputation will be destroyed or ruined (but I do not think it is necessary a thread, maybe it is better to discuss privately).

I agree 100%. This is not a matter that needs to be carried on like this and should be discussed privately. If Vod has concerns with PICISI then instead of creating a bigger problem it would be wiser for him to help find a solution or offer ways to make it better.

@Armis, it would be best to let him have his say and then leave it at that.

@All, you can't read a book by the cover and make assumptions by it's title. I can easily say that this is a crowdfunding project that will allow people to ask for donations for their cause including charities or I could easily say that a certain percentage of income from the site can be donated towards charities.

The title is useless and it is extremely low class to argue about such a simple thing.

Please stop with this nonsense.
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May 14, 2015, 08:04:19 PM
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.....it is extremely low class to argue about such a simple thing.

It is extremely low class to imply that a business is a charity when it is not.
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