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May 14, 2015, 07:33:37 PM
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Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

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bitcoin has not flaws, if you are thinking the contrary .... then please explain or better illustrate these flaws Wink. Remember that bitcoin was created only few years ago and it can surpass and 'destroy' the actual economic system (because it is better and more easier to use).

Obviously I agree with your later point, you're preaching to the choir.
In regard to flaws (and/or weaknesses), since nothing is perfect, here you go.
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May 14, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
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Top secret operations do not use cute little anagrams. I's not a contest that drops hints.

Open your eyes bro, that's just what they want you to think. ...

THEY? This is something you made up this morning, lol.

now if you want a real code breaking challenge you may be interested in this:
https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/games/break-the-code

Codes and breaking them is real spycraft, but it ain't easy. And since it tends to be a natural ability more than a learned skill agencies are always on the lookout for young talent.

Guilty as charged  Cheesy I'm procrastinating from what I really have to get done this morning, which is draft and send a demand letter to a pre-paid debit card company that closed my account and is trying to get out of sending me a check for the account balance. Making up conspiracy theories is much more fun than threatening to sue crooked banks  Grin
Ya know I always wished I was good at code breaking. It is interesting, but I'm also not good at math or other related things. It is also interesting to me that math and code breaking is best done by young people. In math you are washed up at 30. Almost all great discoveries in math are made by people in their 20's or younger.

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May 14, 2015, 09:13:45 PM
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Why would NSA go to all the trouble creating this huge sprawling secret organization then drop the simplest easiest to figure out clue right in the open? It makes no sense that an entity who could build a virtually uncrackable code would try and hide something in a puzzle so simple that a child could see through it.

Don't worry OP, they are filming new episodes of Xfiles soon, you can fantasize all over that kindergarten-level shiz real soon and you wont have to make an ass of yourself in here anymore.
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May 14, 2015, 09:43:20 PM
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At the end of the day, consider this: Even if Satoshi Nakamoto was a team of NSA geniuses at work, it wouldn't even matter. First of all, the project is open source and does everything we expect. Second of all, other technology created by the gov, in this case TOR, ended up as useful for the common folk. Hell even the internet was some secret army shit.
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May 14, 2015, 09:56:35 PM
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And the predictable cover-up attempts begin! Just more proof that I'm onto something they don't want people to know about.
More proof you're nothing but a loon, LaudaM makes points and you say it is proof that you're right without acknowledging the information just given to you.


Valence your name is an anagram of Enclave, such as could you be an NSA spy surrounded by members? No, it's just a damn anagram.

Well I certainly don't agree with Laudam's point that bitcoin has no flaws. I also think it matters a lot who created bitcoin, but that's besides the point. Not sure what you mean by "NSA spy surrounded by members," so can't respond to that particular accusation.

These ad hominim attacks are telling, the truth hurts i guess.   Cry
Your first reply to me implies that I'm actually part of the cover up. Which is a useless assumption because I would say that I'm not in either case.
I said that Bitcoin currently has no flaws. This means that tomorrow someone could come up with a way to break SHA256 and such.
If you say this is false, please provide me with the evidence of those alleged flaws. Anyone is free to verify the code for themselves to check if anything is broken.
In this case: minor bug =/= flaw; weakness =/= flaw.


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What if we are sorely disappointed when we learn the truth?
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May 14, 2015, 11:51:30 PM
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Nonsense, anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that the real developer was an ancient homosexual devil-worshiping tree with a penchant for anagrams: "Satanist Oak Homo"

wake up sheeple!

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May 14, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
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 NSA for sure can find who Satoshi Nakamoto is
and maybe he already has found job in USA,maybe CIA or something ,becouse of his skills
offcourse paid in bitcoin

 Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable

And btc we can consider btc like a drug,drug is opening eyes for a while,but if to be to much attached,can destroy

That book is preety good

 
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May 15, 2015, 12:09:08 AM
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NSA for sure can find who Satoshi Nakamoto is
and maybe he already has found job in USA,maybe CIA or something ,becouse of his skills
offcourse paid in bitcoin

 Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable

And btc we can consider btc like a drug,drug is opening eyes for a while,but if to be to much attached,can destroy

That book is preety good

The NSA is so overwhelmed with data that making use of it efficiently is impossible.

Source:http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/

Even if there are evidence collected by NSA's program that would help track Satoshi, I'm sure that it's not going to help much. Bot to speak about the fact that that Satoshi was an encryption expert. Even with the evidence he left behind, we still have very few clues of who he could actually be.

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May 15, 2015, 05:57:16 AM
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It recently occurred to me that all this speculation about "who" Satoshi is might be a red herring, and that the name does not stand for an individual person but for a top secret gov't operation. Then I started to wonder how to crack the enigma of that elusive name, and it soon became clear that it had to be an anagram for something. As I researched further into this I became convinced that this has to be the answer to "who" Satoshi is. After some exhaustive work I arrived at what seems to me the most likely decipherment of the code and I now present it in these forums for the review of the bitcoin community. You may not agree with the specific anagram I came up with as there are many other possibilities. But it seems undeniable that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is some kind of code. Solving the code could be the key to the survival of bitcoin. Here's the anagram I came up with:

A NSA Soma hit to KO

KO is of course a term from the sport of boxing which means "knockout." Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable. I don't think the term "NSA" requires any explanation in these forums.

And with this it becomes clear what's really going on with bitcoin. I'm not saying to avoid bitcoin and never use it. It's possible that the people will be able to re-direct bitcoin from its original purposes of governmental control, or even to create a new crypto with different aims. But an awareness of these hidden realities is advisable as we move into an unknown future.


Actually, the SAmsungTOSHIbaNAKAmichiMOTOrola theory is more credible than that anagram.  Nice try, though.
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May 15, 2015, 07:34:14 AM
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NSA for sure can find who Satoshi Nakamoto is
and maybe he already has found job in USA,maybe CIA or something ,becouse of his skills
offcourse paid in bitcoin

 Soma is a fictional drug from the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World," which is used to keep the masses docile and controllable

And btc we can consider btc like a drug,drug is opening eyes for a while,but if to be to much attached,can destroy

That book is preety good

The NSA is so overwhelmed with data that making use of it efficiently is impossible.

Source:http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/

Even if there are evidence collected by NSA's program that would help track Satoshi, I'm sure that it's not going to help much. Bot to speak about the fact that that Satoshi was an encryption expert. Even with the evidence he left behind, we still have very few clues of who he could actually be.

What evidence?
All we have are his posts in this forum.

Which brings me to this question:
Why didn't he delete them before he disappeared?

Probably because there is nothing to identify him, but still.....

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May 15, 2015, 07:39:37 AM
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satoshi nakamoto could be some ex governments guy who got tired of centralization money and come up with bitcoin, with a base that start from the long gone e-gold

i can see this working better than your anagram, but everything could be at this point, he surely was a little genius
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OMG, Bitcoin is the work of NSA!!!!
It's the tool for evil!

Quick sell you coins immediately, doesn't matter how much, just get rid of it.

Sell it to me @ $10 per coin Roll Eyes
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OMG, Bitcoin is the work of NSA!!!!
It's the tool for evil!

Quick sell you coins immediately, doesn't matter how much, just get rid of it.

Sell it to me @ $10 per coin Roll Eyes

Hey, stop trying to take advantage of the situation.
$10 is too low.

They are going to sell it to me for $15 per coin  Wink

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No real evidence, just some theory, we call this are conspiracy theories, and we should stop this.
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It's funny how much conspiracy theories we had about real Satoshi's identity on this forum.
At least Satoshi proved to be smart until now and stay anonymous and obviously there is no reason for him to show up his face in the public.
Probably Satoshi is not just one single man but whole organization but it doesn't matter really.
Enjoy your bitcoin, spread the great news and enjoy the ride!
Don't bother yourself with the questions to which there is no answer.



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May 15, 2015, 09:47:20 AM
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It's funny how much conspiracy theories we had about real Satoshi's identity on this forum.
At least Satoshi proved to be smart until now and stay anonymous and obviously there is no reason for him to show up his face in the public.
Probably Satoshi is not just one single man but whole organization but it doesn't matter really.
Enjoy your bitcoin, spread the great news and enjoy the ride!
Don't bother yourself with the questions to which there is no answer.




Sorry but I find that very narrow minded and dumb to say the least.
People are the No. 1 species on this planet due to one reason.
Curiosity.
What if......
What is...
Why...

Curiosity is what made us the most intelligent animal on earth.
So saying: Don't bother finding out who Satoshi was or his motives, is just not going to happen.
Especially since he insists on keeping his 1M+ coins.
Why?

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May 15, 2015, 09:59:52 AM
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I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so, and that is why we should focus on the issues that we have more info (in more productive ways). if such an opinion is stupid to you, it's okay, I can live with that.
Of course, you can do whatever you want and still research about Satoshi, but please be polite to others who don't think like you.

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May 15, 2015, 10:13:10 AM
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I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so, and that is why we should focus on the issues that we have more info (in more productive ways). if such an opinion is stupid to you, it's okay, I can live with that.
Of course, you can do whatever you want and still research about Satoshi, but please be polite to others who don't think like you.

I didn't say stupid, I said dumb - it's a much lighter/friendlier version  Wink
That being said, I apologize if I offended you.  Smiley

Now, are you not the least bit curious as to who Satoshi is and more importantly why do they insist on keeping all the coins they mined?
If the answer is No, then you are lying.
You know how I know that?
Because if you didn't then you wouldn't even bother with this thread  Wink

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I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so ........

The upcoming Bitlicense contains a clause that says this.

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Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate.
https://coincenter.org/2015/02/our-initial-thoughts-on-new-yorks-revised-bitlicense-proposal/

If Satoshi was still the active Bitcoin dev that would mean he would be controlling and administering a Virtual Currency. That would qualify as performing a Virtual Currency Business Activity and be subject to licensing. I'm not sure what the license would cost or involve, but it doesn't sound fun to me.

Whether he's a person, or a secret government project, he/it would still require a license.
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