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September 03, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
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Go through current and new lenders/deposit services that show up refusing to give their information and dox them. People can subscribe to your service for bitcoin and find out who they are before sending them any money.

This might give people some info to give to investigators if that person shoots through with your coins.

Would you have deposited coins with pirate if you knew beforehand he was having money problems and had cashed bad checks in the past ?


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September 03, 2012, 09:19:15 AM
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Has anybody tried to convince some private investigators to accept and understand bitcoins? I think this could be good in the Pirate, Bitcoinica.. They can be used in this cases too.

Gods sent us a powerful tool - cryptography - to fight with those who are trying to exploit us. USE IT!!
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September 03, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
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Would you have deposited coins with pirate if you knew beforehand he was having money problems and had cashed bad checks in the past ?



Yes. The people that invested in pirate and the PPT operators did know this. It was brought up fairly early on in the bs&t thread. They ignored it because of money.
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September 07, 2012, 03:59:48 PM
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Go through current and new lenders/deposit services that show up refusing to give their information and dox them.

For a Hero member, that's a pretty uncool statement. There are plenty of reasons why someone might not want to give out their information to this imaginary Bitcoin powered lynch mob. And if this lynch mob gets their info wrong- are you okay with getting your life ruined as a result?

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September 07, 2012, 04:12:23 PM
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Hi ,
Yeah doxing is a bad idea but
I guess supporting anonymity in Business is a Bad Thing.
If you do not want to give out your Identity , you should not be Trusted with anyones Money.
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September 07, 2012, 04:44:50 PM
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A) "Someone needs to..." is a passive way of saying that you want something.  You want or you need something.  Own it.
B) I have been doing this on a PoC per-fee basis since the beginning op 2012, but only as an aggregate and only for a few people.  It's a pain in the ass to weigh source authority systematically.  I was trying to boil it down to a FICO-style 'score' after talking to some former coworkers at Fair Isaac, but it's just as unreliable, so I ended up with a multidimensional risk profile.  I didn't want to provide intrusive or unactionable information.

I have done some SNA-based risk analysis in the redacted community years ago and thought it would be an interesting tool.  Someone with more experience in the financial risk analysis space may have more luck.

However, the problem with risk analysis is that the people who are good at it can make much more money as part of a larger financial services firm.  As a result, the only people who tend to provide that service alone (such as Moody's, S&P, etc.) tend to be the people who can't get the better-paying jobs.

That is, the people who would be interested in providing this for the community are precisely those who are less qualified.


Perhaps it's the people who are most familiar with the system end up becoming some of the worst offenders due to their willingness to cheat and exploit vulnerabilities from within the system.

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