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September 28, 2010, 08:38:58 PM
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BC is money, but maybe we'd be better off referring to it as a 'trade regulation medium' (or something along those lines) - I think that'd really get their goat as they couldn't deny it.


Yes, they can.  Because Bitcoin is not money, it's currency, and they do know the difference.  They may not think highly of it, but most at Mises.org can respect the attempt at a voluntary alternative currency.  Particularly one that solves the online commerce problems so elegantly.  Bitcoin just isn't mature enough to warrant attention from policy wonks.

Mises.org is a lost cause for BTC support IMO. They refuse to run Bitcoin articles because they don't want to "promote" it.
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September 28, 2010, 09:00:29 PM
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BC is money, but maybe we'd be better off referring to it as a 'trade regulation medium' (or something along those lines) - I think that'd really get their goat as they couldn't deny it.


Yes, they can.  Because Bitcoin is not money, it's currency, and they do know the difference.  They may not think highly of it, but most at Mises.org can respect the attempt at a voluntary alternative currency.  Particularly one that solves the online commerce problems so elegantly.  Bitcoin just isn't mature enough to warrant attention from policy wonks.

Mises.org is a lost cause for BTC support IMO. They refuse to run Bitcoin articles because they don't want to "promote" it.

It's a fair concern.  Mises.org has a lot of sway with opinions that we might want to influence, but their support isn't magical.  If Mises.org started running favorable articles; Bitcoin would get many new people and more attention than just those who wish us well, and if Bitcoin can't succeed without Mises.org then it can't survive in the long run anyway.  If Bitcoin makes it, then Mises.org will run articles.

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September 28, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
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if I follow this great thread correctly, it seems that misis could be very useful.

meybe we should approach it on a personal level, isn't there anyone in the forum who has some personal contacts with key stakeholders at mises?

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September 29, 2010, 01:55:15 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .
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September 29, 2010, 03:29:59 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

Advertisement is for corn syrup and diet pills. We need someone who is knowledgeable and can speak well get an interview on freedomainradio or another liberty podcast.

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September 29, 2010, 03:34:49 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

Advertisement is for corn syrup and diet pills. We need someone who is knowledgeable and can speak well get an interview on freedomainradio or another liberty podcast.

It's too narrow a topic, and dull.  A thirty second spot late on Fox Business would be big, but that costs money.  And if anyone does something like this, I'm going to need to have more bitcoin to sell on Mtgox.

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September 29, 2010, 03:44:28 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

Advertisement is for corn syrup and diet pills. We need someone who is knowledgeable and can speak well get an interview on freedomainradio or another liberty podcast.

It's too narrow a topic, and dull.  A thirty second spot late on Fox Business would be big, but that costs money.  And if anyone does something like this, I'm going to need to have more bitcoin to sell on Mtgox.

Well, if the person could also talk about agorism and the internet and p2p stuff it could be a good interview. It doesn't have to be a whole show, but it could certainly be more than 30 seconds. It took me a week to get my wife to understand the basics. Heh, maybe that just means I shouldn't do it.

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September 29, 2010, 04:06:00 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

Advertisement is for corn syrup and diet pills. We need someone who is knowledgeable and can speak well get an interview on freedomainradio or another liberty podcast.

It's too narrow a topic, and dull.  A thirty second spot late on Fox Business would be big, but that costs money.  And if anyone does something like this, I'm going to need to have more bitcoin to sell on Mtgox.

Well, if the person could also talk about agorism and the internet and p2p stuff it could be a good interview. It doesn't have to be a whole show, but it could certainly be more than 30 seconds. It took me a week to get my wife to understand the basics. Heh, maybe that just means I shouldn't do it.

Maybe it just shows that our wives don't actually listen to us anymore.

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- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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September 29, 2010, 04:21:02 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

Advertisement is for corn syrup and diet pills. We need someone who is knowledgeable and can speak well get an interview on freedomainradio or another liberty podcast.

It's too narrow a topic, and dull.  A thirty second spot late on Fox Business would be big, but that costs money.  And if anyone does something like this, I'm going to need to have more bitcoin to sell on Mtgox.

Well, if the person could also talk about agorism and the internet and p2p stuff it could be a good interview. It doesn't have to be a whole show, but it could certainly be more than 30 seconds. It took me a week to get my wife to understand the basics. Heh, maybe that just means I shouldn't do it.

Maybe it just shows that our wives don't actually listen to us anymore.

Get an interview on Glenn Beck's show. He recently mentioned a libertarian book (F.A. Hayek) on there and it went to number 1 on the amazon bestseller list. Other shows are John Stossel or Judge Napolitano.


My wife rolls her eyes when I mention bitcoin.....

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September 29, 2010, 06:57:32 AM
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My wife rolls her eyes when I mention bitcoin.....
Your wife is kyuuute:
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September 29, 2010, 06:59:49 AM
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My wife rolls her eyes when I mention bitcoin.....
Your wife is kyuuute:

If my better half looked like that bitcoin would be the last thing on my mind  Tongue
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September 29, 2010, 07:36:06 AM
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My wife rolls her eyes when I mention bitcoin.....
Your wife is kyuuute:

If my better half looked like that bitcoin would be the last thing on my mind  Tongue

Who is that?  She looks like she is half Asian.  Is she some model, or was this picture taken by some boyfriend showing off?

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September 29, 2010, 07:38:30 AM
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You mean because you'd be taking her to the optometrist?

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September 29, 2010, 08:52:57 AM
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Maybe it just shows that our wives don't actually listen to us anymore.
maybe our wives listen to us, but think that bitcoin is just another game (very obscure game) for beloved husbands...  Smiley

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September 29, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
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And I like that game. Cheesy

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September 29, 2010, 09:15:37 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

I love Free Talk Live, I used to listed to them daily.

Anyway, my advice when calling FTL is to always be ready to respond to questions asked by the show hosts, so think about how to respond to the common questions.

Also, it would be really cool if FTL started using bitcoin as part of their AMP program.  They currently use paypal, which charges lots of transaction fees, which is a waste considering they have a stream of small donations.

Maybe we (bitcoin forumn community) could offer a monthly donation that we pay in bitcoin instead of paypal?  If we do some high monly dobation, then the name of the donator (call him "bitcoin") is listed on their website.  Or maybe we can purchase and advertising package from them in bitcoin?

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September 29, 2010, 09:41:52 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

Advertisement is for corn syrup and diet pills. We need someone who is knowledgeable and can speak well get an interview on freedomainradio or another liberty podcast.

Mark one of the cohosts of ftl does an interview segment after many of the shows. Maybe this could be better.
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September 29, 2010, 09:48:35 AM
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If we want to get the word out we might have to advertise. I suggest an advertising campaign on one of the large libertarian shows such as free talk live. I actually heard one of the saturday co-hosts mention bitcoin live on air not long ago think it was 26 sep . A script would need to be agreed on that explains bitcoin to the masses .

I love Free Talk Live, I used to listed to them daily.

Anyway, my advice when calling FTL is to always be ready to respond to questions asked by the show hosts, so think about how to respond to the common questions.

Also, it would be really cool if FTL started using bitcoin as part of their AMP program.  They currently use paypal, which charges lots of transaction fees, which is a waste considering they have a stream of small donations.

Maybe we (bitcoin forumn community) could offer a monthly donation that we pay in bitcoin instead of paypal?  If we do some high monly dobation, then the name of the donator (call him "bitcoin") is listed on their website.  Or maybe we can purchase and advertising package from them in bitcoin?

 Cheesy  I actually emailed Ian about setting up a bitcoin donation as I am also a monthly donator to ftl. He said he didnt understand how bitcoin works. Maybe if other people contact him about setting it up it might peak his interest. I know they often auction ad banners on the site.
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September 29, 2010, 09:50:23 AM
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Maybe it just shows that our wives don't actually listen to us anymore.
maybe our wives listen to us, but think that bitcoin is just another game (very obscure game) for beloved husbands...  Smiley

Im surprised they complain considering the amount of time they spend on farmville  Cheesy
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September 29, 2010, 09:57:20 AM
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http://www.prweb.com/

We could submit bitcoin here as a press release. I nominate the bitcoin blogger to write it!
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