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[...] So a hacked BTC account is signing a message by reference to a hacked BTC account message?
His github message is signed by an LTC address that is linked in a bitcointalk quote. Since the quote itself can't be modified by the current holder of the vertoe account, it is reasonable proof of her identity. In short: the message was posted by someone that holds control of: vertoe's github account + vertoe's prior known LTC keys. If the statement holds true and represents vertoe's take on CACHE going forward, I am thoroughly surprised by the total lack of character/morals. Oh well, just another day in Altcoin land I suppose. Can't find those messages. I'd like to see a signed pgp message.
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@Coins101: Actually, the LTC reference address is not in a quote, it is a direct link to a post (which has so far not been modified though). Edit: I confirmed the address and contents of the linked post, and it is an exact copy of an identical post on Litecointalk. For future reference, this is the claimed signer LTC address: Lafri18H6eUurUT5eg4xeTuRcepPfPgojC This is the message: -----BEGIN LTC SIGNED MESSAGE----- i'm vertoe and no longer able to access my bitcointalk account - verify this message with the litecoin address found in this post ?topic=441215.msg4847316 - the last post written by me is ?topic=400389.msg11381772 - yes, i never wanted cachecoin 2.0 and allowed the extended cachecoin team to use my account - i couldn't stand the pressure of investors sending me daily half a dozen pms on all channels - screw the altcoin scene - i'm out anyways - and kal, sorry for breaking your coin while trying to rescue it. farewell. -----END LTC SIGNED MESSAGE----- And this is the signature: G2ufkbvANxVafxE+ydp/9Sm/yX1kMRU0Jtp9HDlTKmV7DAwBVKXvqnYX2OPc0sqI8ruKx+NMBaQnl6sWLmexLTI=
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July 01, 2015, 02:21:30 PM |
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That address does appear here: Accessed via mirror
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July 01, 2015, 02:29:40 PM |
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This: - verify this message with the litecoin address found in this post ?topic=441215.msg4847316Links to: - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441215.msg4847316Where you find the address I posted above. I am getting validation failure for the message signature, so, no clue. I posted a comment on git.
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July 01, 2015, 02:30:15 PM |
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@Coins101: Actually, the LTC reference address is not in a quote, it is a direct link to a post (which has so far not been modified though). Edit: I confirmed the address and contents of the linked post, and it is an exact copy of an identical post on Litecointalk. For future reference, this is the claimed signer LTC address: Lafri18H6eUurUT5eg4xeTuRcepPfPgojC This is the message: -----BEGIN LTC SIGNED MESSAGE----- i'm vertoe and no longer able to access my bitcointalk account - verify this message with the litecoin address found in this post ?topic=441215.msg4847316 - the last post written by me is ?topic=400389.msg11381772 - yes, i never wanted cachecoin 2.0 and allowed the extended cachecoin team to use my account - i couldn't stand the pressure of investors sending me daily half a dozen pms on all channels - screw the altcoin scene - i'm out anyways - and kal, sorry for breaking your coin while trying to rescue it. farewell. -----END LTC SIGNED MESSAGE----- And this is the signature: G2ufkbvANxVafxE+ydp/9Sm/yX1kMRU0Jtp9HDlTKmV7DAwBVKXvqnYX2OPc0sqI8ruKx+NMBaQnl6sWLmexLTI= I trust the edit watermark from litecointalk that doesn't seem to have been edited since Sept 2014 The Vertoe post does contain that LTC address @ 2014. https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=14422.0
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Lets see if this is Vertoe, who went to the trouble of signing the initial fork bin: Signed by vertoe. PGP-key block below. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFUpSmMBCAD1HMpFVQFquoF1UXgGCbDLpiFT2JE1Hq6wT//FR5LDUo6gVRHd 6AyOXCyoEXEiJge8HoCp++GFNeVf0CP142DwaoTrcal6QXdhdfolG1dhganD1W+/ CPkk8zkQYxKJ+L/gwbHKwGzImgHTYEbeFbIeitDhZoahCxJqqT6+0UbnUjMu+eK/ /DUqmMcBIkp7bIKjK0h81ECe92l+tkq0oKX72n6yc6DEmNi5w1r1XauKPzevf93b yBmB5cRMv6F9qrIK3K7KZSjMtlNLUHk0yWIquEo7VI7Aq2zqUexuSXyso1FxMgfd I2wAdWKDHnNuud9sgIlCD5sEd1rPCUrz1z9ZABEBAAG0F3ZlcnRvZSA8dmVydG9l QGNhY2guY28+iQE3BBMBCAAhBQJVKUpjAhsDBQsJCAcCBhUICQoLAgQWAgMBAh4B AheAAAoJELkZwt/Oonoh4lkH/iSGVG5dbf0QIBPzCnAmhUql/8xaAWJ3lPQOOKbT omZ8xMGEOjoOLzODOQU6uqhcv1btB4AfflAFD7v9DpSL6PXPBf1DDteL5K19qqY+ TRqKPdfRQov5G7dvn0MOAsdfLpkGz8sMEF3Apc+PuHEdIx8YLjydUj1ShIoTOunN IZ43qFVqjEsIb6xn6nnmmc7ykXax981HK9nosikQC+FJ7FcmB89j6Vmubo4A66xh MFUwo1rnYAv8ph/ZhiNMYRARgiF0pAkMS46KtJiun6EcfG2I+a/bsMA9uITWI6j8 5Y3M2ZLzN3OeViNO73Lth69cYXl1Gycu+e2/UItea9rinBG5AQ0EVSlKYwEIAM/r vdr4WZZPwgoVBsLS/ybwylD9iQMFRNv0rtlowo3XdTZtitTUIkIClpkwGU5LtYZ7 QqiMbNJBcdB5xiwvMwmR6YHfUp6+qtv3EGT1GgDThSdsQAEfuPEWf+afQlKvud1Q USrP7R7eu4VAxJIEW1emR0asA8tQgZbdXEoc+7tSVPGIRGjB5TTr+yP24RShx82D CJPCe10CnsBuLORwKFPM2Gf1cCWUAy5gKcA2db70kXUb0p27ZLwf7sgY231hVTLo DJ7rQs1yDEoP+9kZ2Krkr8VfiAzs9Ofjc9NApIy3udlDY0OZ/H1MfbaD6ZCz+Lta VdZUyhWBjzgdNKbg9nsAEQEAAYkBHwQYAQgACQUCVSlKYwIbDAAKCRC5GcLfzqJ6 IVg8CADuSbs2Ndx23+gDjeYGsbSLSSujU+FTceu8d23Er2Dcl+YfUFe2wlYoTl1k sUo0/yOC5dMkryG380RycLoZ34knFPkfRHsZllT7Faxlrds1ArbMMYa8sJQvVFAr PQQ3/S/gINDbx/bEZOIQPuug387O592Px50KqylNUamz7VLz/HqN3x3ZNK2jTubw VU4cT6LvFYtOy9ye3SE2rZl82Y27fE5BgmBejQ9DZYWilAEj8O8Go+kaeLDpJRQ/ K82/Im+CUGSKsTlSdeUG8ZxDZ3T3J8ICJSe01fy8mnX+euMbjOZpCclpsRTuJwhB OEm/vrqxQyGlzWaF0l5+wTDVEA3V =EJp4 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- https://github.com/vertoe/cachecoin-binhttps://github.com/vertoe/cachecoin-bin/blob/master/vertoe-key.pgp
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If Vertoe has gone for good, that is still not 100%, then I'd like to know if Cache would still be interested on working towards a P2P exchange for alts. It is something I very briefly exchanged thoughts about with Vertoe around a few days after he started working on Cache. He was open to looking into the idea, after getting something tangible going for Cache. This is the overview of the project I put together in May: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19djUkzO04BhgKrh4VURFC55bI8zvo8qspSmWhJPuXrY/edit#slide=id.g9d55834ca_0_45There are some things in there that might not work, but its an outline that was intended to serve as a starting point.
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July 01, 2015, 07:14:22 PM |
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Vertoe's account wasn't hacked, he put it up for sale, and from Vertoe's Github entry I guess it's been sold now. Start at coins101's post about donschoe.
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July 01, 2015, 07:20:00 PM |
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Vertoe's account wasn't hacked, he put it up for sale, and from Vertoe's Github entry I guess it's been sold now. Start at coins101's post about donschoe.
And you know this, because?
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July 01, 2015, 07:22:46 PM |
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Vertoe's account wasn't hacked, he put it up for sale, and from Vertoe's Github entry I guess it's been sold now. Start at coins101's post about donschoe.
And you know this, because? Because I've done some checking. donschoe=Vertoe. For posterity: Selling two hero accounts.
account 1: 550+ posts, 550+ activity, hero member, registered 2011, mixed reputation. 0.65BTC account 2: 850+ posts, 500+ activity, hero member, registered 2014, 50+ positive reputation, no negative ratings. 0.95BTC
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July 01, 2015, 11:46:51 PM |
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Be back on the approach to block 100,000
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July 01, 2015, 11:57:54 PM |
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If Vertoe has gone for good, that is still not 100%, then I'd like to know if Cache would still be interested on working towards a P2P exchange for alts. It is something I very briefly exchanged thoughts about with Vertoe around a few days after he started working on Cache. He was open to looking into the idea, after getting something tangible going for Cache. This is the overview of the project I put together in May: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19djUkzO04BhgKrh4VURFC55bI8zvo8qspSmWhJPuXrY/edit#slide=id.g9d55834ca_0_45There are some things in there that might not work, but its an outline that was intended to serve as a starting point. Thanks coins101 for your effort. But I think vertoe has scammed us, even with pre-planning thoughts. Sorry for anyone who lost money in this scam. We are on the same boat.
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July 02, 2015, 04:15:19 PM |
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Hi everyone!
I think that the "vertoe" will come back here when he's ready. I'm staying here and I will support community than I can.
I have some of ideas what is really going on, to many questions have answers in the new OP from "vertoe".
All of good!
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July 02, 2015, 08:46:50 PM |
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Hi everyone!
I think that the "vertoe" will come back here when he's ready. I'm staying here and I will support community than I can.
I have some of ideas what is really going on, to many questions have answers in the new OP from "vertoe".
All of good!
You're kind of dreaming... Someone else may come in and fix/implement all the stuff, but this coin is going to be seriously fubar unless someone takes a serious look at fixing it before block 100,000....
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July 02, 2015, 10:43:05 PM |
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Hi everyone!
I think that the "vertoe" will come back here when he's ready. I'm staying here and I will support community than I can.
I have some of ideas what is really going on, to many questions have answers in the new OP from "vertoe".
All of good!
You're kind of dreaming... Someone else may come in and fix/implement all the stuff, but this coin is going to be seriously fubar unless someone takes a serious look at fixing it before block 100,000.... perhaps vertoe will miraculously recover his hacked account and come back to sell you fools his coins again
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July 02, 2015, 11:24:57 PM |
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Hi everyone!
I think that the "vertoe" will come back here when he's ready. I'm staying here and I will support community than I can.
I have some of ideas what is really going on, to many questions have answers in the new OP from "vertoe".
All of good!
You're kind of dreaming... Someone else may come in and fix/implement all the stuff, but this coin is going to be seriously fubar unless someone takes a serious look at fixing it before block 100,000.... perhaps vertoe will miraculously recover his hacked account and come back to sell you fools his coins again I hope so. At a certain point, the people who get scammed aren't victims of someone else, but victims of themselves.
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You're kind of dreaming... Someone else may come in and fix/implement all the stuff, but this coin is going to be seriously fubar unless someone takes a serious look at fixing it before block 100,000....
@Thirtybird, To keep the chain/coin on life support, it would suffice to have all clients/nodes/pools/exchanges, revert back to the pre-takeover codebase last published by Kalgecin, right? I'm not saying that's good or bad, just wondering if that would be enough to at least prevent an abrupt end to cache. I have no stake here. I do have some fondness over the original coin specifications and it was one of the first coins I ever mined, so for whatever reason, I still keep an eye on it. If the community wants to keep it alive, I'll be available to help on a legitimate and transparent takeover effort. I would encourage any stakeholders to speak up ... right ... about ... now!
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July 03, 2015, 04:16:12 AM |
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If Vertoe has gone for good, that is still not 100%, then I'd like to know if Cache would still be interested on working towards a P2P exchange for alts. It is something I very briefly exchanged thoughts about with Vertoe around a few days after he started working on Cache. He was open to looking into the idea, after getting something tangible going for Cache. This is the overview of the project I put together in May: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19djUkzO04BhgKrh4VURFC55bI8zvo8qspSmWhJPuXrY/edit#slide=id.g9d55834ca_0_45There are some things in there that might not work, but its an outline that was intended to serve as a starting point. Thanks coins101 for your effort. But I think vertoe has scammed us, even with pre-planning thoughts. Sorry for anyone who lost money in this scam. We are on the same boat. he NEVER scammed anybody ! he made very clear from the beginning that he will look into this but will and can NOT promise (long term) anything ! so he is out , but that has nothing to do with a scam ! (not that i am involved in this, i just want to make clear that vertoe always was stand up guy and had whatever reasons to move on) found this on github https://github.com/vertoe/bitcointalk/blob/master/README.mdthats why i stopped by here
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July 03, 2015, 05:49:47 AM |
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If Vertoe has gone for good, that is still not 100%, then I'd like to know if Cache would still be interested on working towards a P2P exchange for alts. It is something I very briefly exchanged thoughts about with Vertoe around a few days after he started working on Cache. He was open to looking into the idea, after getting something tangible going for Cache. This is the overview of the project I put together in May: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19djUkzO04BhgKrh4VURFC55bI8zvo8qspSmWhJPuXrY/edit#slide=id.g9d55834ca_0_45There are some things in there that might not work, but its an outline that was intended to serve as a starting point. Thanks coins101 for your effort. But I think vertoe has scammed us, even with pre-planning thoughts. Sorry for anyone who lost money in this scam. We are on the same boat. he NEVER scammed anybody ! he made very clear from the beginning that he will look into this but will and can NOT promise (long term) anything ! so he is out , but that has nothing to do with a scam ! (not that i am involved in this, i just want to make clear that vertoe always was stand up guy and had whatever reasons to move on) found this on github https://github.com/vertoe/bitcointalk/blob/master/README.mdthats why i stopped by here Good to know he/she still has people trying to defend him simple fact is Vertoe used what reputation he/she had to unload the bag of cache coin he/she was holding thats all! i dont call ppl scammers and post on BCT with red letters but maybe i should this time So many ways Vertoe could have contacted or communicated with investors in this coin the way he/she got the word out by "my account hacked...." it simply show what kind of morals this person has and its very disappointing Vertoe's reputation is forever tainted and next coin he/she works on will show what people think
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@@ -7,4 +7,4 @@ vertoe account access lost signature - G2ufkbvANxVafxE+ydp/9Sm/yX1kMRU0Jtp9HDlTKmV7DAwBVKXvqnYX2OPc0sqI8ruKx+NMBaQnl6sWLmexLTI= + HP/pZkisiylOBFyZ4hFEYOe92jd3ksh/T/uOvmlbiCRGL4so+lyF3v8CZM6SsKfO4GH6rF2wB+LaIsCTBEW9qDs= https://github.com/vertoe/bitcointalk/commit/e2e9b34db88b0bca6cb1ba1d9f18e9c2225a4136#diff-04c6e90faac2675aa89e2176d2eec7d8 https://brainwallet.org/#verify?vrAddr=LLzQ6eTn3rahPqzWHq1zkV7DtetSTk7NsT&vrMsg=i'm%20vertoe%20and%20no%20longer%20able%20to%20access%20my%20bitcointalk%20account%20-%20verify%20this%20message%20with%20the%20litecoin%20address%20found%20in%20this%20post%20%3Ftopic%3D441215.msg4847316%20-%20the%20last%20post%20written%20by%20me%20is%20%3Ftopic%3D400389.msg11381772%20-%20yes%2C%20i%20never%20wanted%20cachecoin%202.0%20and%20allowed%20the%20extended%20cachecoin%20team%20to%20use%20my%20account%20-%20i%20couldn't%20stand%20the%20pressure%20of%20investors%20sending%20me%20daily%20half%20a%20dozen%20pms%20on%20all%20channels%20-%20screw%20the%20altcoin%20scene%20-%20i'm%20out%20anyways%20-%20and%20kal%2C%20sorry%20for%20breaking%20your%20coin%20while%20trying%20to%20rescue%20it.%20farewell.&vrSig=HP%2FpZkisiylOBFyZ4hFEYOe92jd3ksh%2FT%2FuOvmlbiCRGL4so%2BlyF3v8CZM6SsKfO4GH6rF2wB%2BLaIsCTBEW9qDs%3D
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