MATTHEW N. WRIGHT IS A SCAMMER

[bg002h]

I'm not in charge of scammer tags, I'm just saying making up hypothetical situations and expecting a serious answer is kinda dumb.

I'm simply asking for bitcointalk.org's definition of a scammer.  It's a legitimate question.  If that doesn't exist that's fine.  Maybe we should wait for Theymos to weight in, if he chooses to do so.

Thx.

Matthew didn't take any money, but I believe others have received scammer tags preemptively. so SCAMMER sometimes means ALMOST SCAMMER.

One problem with the bet scenario is that nobody would have really known what to do were Matthew to win the bet. Matthew wouldn't have gotten the scammer tag, but he would have been just as guilty.

I agree with this... People are going overboard... I sorta knew it was a joke from the start.....

I don't care if he gets a scammer tag or not. I think we need a gullible and/or complicit in crime tag for the ppt folks who assisted in the theft. And a clever crook tag for those who actually made money on the pirate fiasco (for the record, I made a little over BTC2...which I'm willing to return).

[bitcoiners]

I'm not in charge of scammer tags, I'm just saying making up hypothetical situations and expecting a serious answer is kinda dumb.

I'm simply asking for bitcointalk.org's definition of a scammer.  It's a legitimate question.  If that doesn't exist that's fine.  Maybe we should wait for Theymos to weight in, if he chooses to do so.

Thx.

Matthew didn't take any money, but I believe others have received scammer tags preemptively. so SCAMMER sometimes means ALMOST SCAMMER.

One problem with the bet scenario is that nobody would have really known what to do were Matthew to win the bet. Matthew wouldn't have gotten the scammer tag, but he would have been just as guilty.

I agree with this... People are going overboard... I sorta knew it was a joke from the start.....

Sorry but no they are not over-reacting.  I was ready to pay out if I lost.  And yes, he would have took my BTC.  I also bought pirate debt because of this bet, debt I wouldn't have bought if this bet didn't exist.  I fully expected Matthew to pay.  I am out BTC because of his actions.  Also, people didn't sell their pirate debt because of this bet.  People have lost money here because of Matthew.  They have every right to be as pissed as they are.

He's a scamming fuck.

[Raoul Duke]

Talking about scammers... shouldn't pirateat40 have one of those SCAMMER tags already?

I confirm I didn't get paid nor had any kind of communication trying to make a deal about repayment coming from him for the last 3 weeks.

[muyuu]

Talking about scammers... shouldn't pirateat40 have one of those SCAMMER tags already?

I confirm I didn't get paid nor had any kind of communication trying to make a deal about repayment coming from him for the last 3 weeks.

He already has the scammer tag. Didn't you notice?

[Raoul Duke]

Talking about scammers... shouldn't pirateat40 have one of those SCAMMER tags already?

I confirm I didn't get paid nor had any kind of communication trying to make a deal about repayment coming from him for the last 3 weeks.

He already has the scammer tag. Didn't you notice?

http://www.firenzee.com/howthemightyhavefallen.jpg

Hadn't checked his profile, and given that he's not posting I hadn't noticed it.
Good, good. Thanks for doing the digging for me

[adamstgBit]

I'm just going to plug this here

MATTHEW N. WRIGHT - The Best Bitcoin Troll Ever!

 

[JoelKatz]

No funds changed hands.  

That is false. Lots of funds changed hands, just not with Matthew.

Say I promise to buy 1,000 pounds of shrimp from you on a particular date at $10/pound. You turn down other deals on that same day. You take out a loan to buy the shrimp. You buy the shrimp. You rent a truck to deliver the shrimp to me. Then when you get there, I say "Sorry, I don't want the shrimp." But you gave up other jobs, took out a loan, bought 1,000 pounds of shrimp and rented a truck. How can I say "No funds changed hands"?

[Gyrsur]

how about zhoutong's SCAMMER tag?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=38455

[AndrewBUD]

 Should be forced to have an embarrassing avatar with the scammer tag... Something changed weekly that all the scammers have

[iCEBREAKER]

I'm just going to plug this here

MATTHEW N. WRIGHT - The Best Bitcoin Troll Ever!

 

yes, exactly.  

no reasonable person would have any rational belief or expectation that his farcical bet was real.

hooray for our new, greatly expanded definition of scammer, which has been diluted sufficiently to include obvious trolls (especially  in cases of wildly successful trolling)!  

now we are all safer from the dangers of obvious troll bets, thanks to words meaning whatever we want them to.

I guess all trolling is a kind of scam now, because it involves kidding, which is dishonest.  

[adamstgBit]

No funds changed hands.  

That is false. Lots of funds changed hands, just not with Matthew.

Say I promise to buy 1,000 pounds of shrimp from you on a particular date at $10/pound. You turn down other deals on that same day. You take out a loan to buy the shrimp. You buy the shrimp. You rent a truck to deliver the shrimp to me. Then when you get there, I say "Sorry, I don't want the shrimp." But you gave up other jobs, took out a loan, bought 1,000 pounds of shrimp and rented a truck. How can I say "No funds changed hands"?

yes i see your point, I guess the fact that no one will ever take any thing he says or does seriously is punishment enoght.

Its really to fucking bad. MWN is hard working and talented. its to bad trolling on a massive scale is his favorite pass time.

[BTCOnetime]

Has there been any word from him?  Anywhere? Or pirate? Is there a difference?

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and why are people defending this guy?  At the moment I have no opion, just curious.

[bitcoiners]

Has there been any word from him?  Anywhere? Or pirate? Is there a difference?

Nope, he's on though.  Watching....

In some sick twisted way this is funny to him.

[BTCOnetime]

care to share anything MNW?

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maybe he's waiting for everyone to finish talking shit b4 he pays out?  wishful thinking..

[repentance]

You can literally take away few million $ and stay good, in the same time you can promise to give away almost $900k and in the end not fulfil promise and get scammer tag within 10 minutes.

I have no problem with the Scammer - even though I don't really believe his failure to pay on a bet meets the definition of a "scam" - tag being applied to Matthew because he agreed to that in advance.  I have a huge problem with the fact that Matthew was given the tag within hours while the Bitcoinica guys still don't have scammer tags after many months.

[cbeast]

Has there been any word from him?  Anywhere? Or pirate? Is there a difference?

edit:

and why are people defending this guy?  At the moment I have no opion, just curious.

That is a good question. I am giving him the benefit of a doubt if he will stop trolling here. I think he is an over-privileged brat that bit off more than he can chew, but that doesn't make him a scoundrel.

[BTCOnetime]

answered my own question, just click his name and see last posts

Quote from MNW:



Thanks to everyone who participated in this bet. It was a great social experiment for me to find out who my true friends were, and also to entertain the community (which is my true purpose on these forums and always will be). Unfortunately, it looks like I lost the bet. This means I'll need to pay out exactly as described in my original thread OP.

Many of the people betting were very careful to point out that others were ignorant and foolish to invest their money into Pirate without doing due diligence beforehand, so far as to call them shills, suckers, etc. This leads me to believe that the individuals betting in my bet are very wise with their money and would only bet if they carefully read and understood the rules of the bet. For this reason, I am confident that the very wise individuals betting in this thread will be satisfied with the very literal interpretation of my thread.

I will begin paying for my losses as outlined in the following rule:


Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 19, 2012, 03:49:20 PM

If I lose the bet, you get 20BTC sent to that address (13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM). If you lose, you'll need to send 20BTC to my address.


I'll begin processing the payouts for each of the 112 betters in this spreadsheet immediately: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajtx05YrHtIydFVHcGxLOExTbnhqajJLZmlSZUNtM3c&pli=1#gid=0

Please make sure to following along for your own record keeping purposes. I will update this thread with each payment as well. Thanks again!
 

[adamstgBit]

Has there been any word from him?  Anywhere? Or pirate? Is there a difference?

edit:

and why are people defending this guy?  At the moment I have no opion, just curious.

That is a good question. I am giving him the benefit of a doubt if he will stop trolling here. I think he is an over-privileged brat that bit off more than he can chew, but that doesn't make him a scoundrel.

remember this?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76322.0

and now this!

its over man, MWN can't say or do anything anymore, no one will ever trust him.

[repentance]

its over man, MWN can't say or do anything anymore, no one will ever trust him.

People still trust Intersango in spite of Bitcoinica and they still trust GPUMax in spite of BS&T.  Matthew will suffer more only because he's not running another service which taps into people's greed.

[smoothie]

its over man, MWN can't say or do anything anymore, no one will ever trust him.

People still trust Intersango in spite of Bitcoinica and they still trust GPUMax in spite of BS&T.  Matthew will suffer more only because he's not running another service which taps into people's greed.

I think this is different because he took much of the steam off of pirateat40 and exponentially put it on to himself in this matter.

Pirate and Matthew both aren't going to pay.