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June 01, 2015, 06:01:04 AM
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I don't know what good this thread does other than needlessly confuse the situation. It looks to be purely opinionated and not actualy based on any evidence. I think it's unfair to try blame QS or Marco just as much as it is to blame ndnhc in the first place. Without more evidence I don't think its fair to blame any of them in my opinion.

Actually, there's an itemized list of evidence 1-16 in the OP.  The most damning, IMO, is the incredibly fast response time from QS in finding it.  He made the same mistake when trolling me with an alt, necrobumping an old thread then "finding it" with his main within a super-short amount of time.  Anyway, obviuosly the evidence isn't conclusive, but inconclusive evidence is still evidence.

Your point 9 is also invalid, as this fact takes someone's word as fact which is heresy.

The spanish inquisition cries "heresy!".  (lol, couldn't help myself; given that QS's overzealousness is basically his downfall, this typo was too ironic)

I am saying that ndnhc's inability to access the forum for those three days is heresy and is impossible to prove. I would not take that as evidence to support his guilt or innocence.
Whoa, even more heresy!  Okay, time to be more helpful: quickseller, click here
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The reason I removed the negative trust was because I wouldn't believe that you would be their signature campaign manager (from what it seems you also handle some of their PR related things as well) and then make the mistake of entering a giveaway after it had ended.
Wait, if taking someone else's word is heresy, then I think QS is asking us to become heretics too!

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I cannot speak to anything that anyone else did or did not do. However using a throwaway account is not straightening your case IMO.
I think he means "strengthening", but now I'm just being mean. Smiley

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June 01, 2015, 07:46:39 AM
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I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.
Is there any chance of getting the TXID that he used to pay the units of evil fee?

Why do you always assume they paid one? They could have easily just used a proxy to register then move on to tor.

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June 01, 2015, 08:10:11 AM
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I framed him.

I'm a lover not a hater. I'm a scam buster misunderstood. However, this forum is full of haters which is why you see my trust. They can't handle my success so they try to stop me...BUT NO ONE STOPS MY SUCCESS! ....Find Quickseller annoying? Click the "ignore" button below his name! You're welcome!
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June 01, 2015, 08:47:03 AM
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I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.
Is there any chance of getting the TXID that he used to pay the units of evil fee?

Why do you always assume they paid one? They could have easily just used a proxy to register then move on to tor.

Can you check the Login IPs?
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June 01, 2015, 08:53:48 AM
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I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.
Is there any chance of getting the TXID that he used to pay the units of evil fee?

Why do you always assume they paid one? They could have easily just used a proxy to register then move on to tor.

Can you check the Login IPs?

I can't personally but I think IPs are only logged with your posts. If the person used a proxy to sign up their log-in IP will probably be irrelevant anyway.

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June 01, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
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I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.
Is there any chance of getting the TXID that he used to pay the units of evil fee?

Why do you always assume they paid one? They could have easily just used a proxy to register then move on to tor.

Can you check the Login IPs?

I can't personally but I think IPs are only logged with your posts. If the person used a proxy to sign up their log-in IP will probably be irrelevant anyway.
Still, Can we try this?
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June 01, 2015, 09:56:25 AM
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If there was any evidence either for or against the accusation BadBear would have had access to it when he checked:

I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.

There's probably nothing else to be gleaned from it.

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June 01, 2015, 02:23:23 PM
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I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.
Is there any chance of getting the TXID that he used to pay the units of evil fee?

Why do you always assume they paid one? They could have easily just used a proxy to register then move on to tor.
Because every time that I try to register an account while using a proxy there is a proxy ban fee to pay. If they used a proxy then they would probably still have a fee to pay, but if they somehow managed to not pay a fee with a proxy then it is most likely much more information would be available on the culprit.

I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.
Is there any chance of getting the TXID that he used to pay the units of evil fee?

Why do you always assume they paid one? They could have easily just used a proxy to register then move on to tor.

Can you check the Login IPs?

I can't personally but I think IPs are only logged with your posts. If the person used a proxy to sign up their log-in IP will probably be irrelevant anyway.
I am not sure about login IP's but I know registration IP's are logged - they were leaked as part of the most recent hack, and they are used to calculate units of evil.

If there was any evidence either for or against the accusation BadBear would have had access to it when he checked:

I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.

There's probably nothing else to be gleaned from it.
BadBear said that he doesn't have access to the txid's of the tx's that were used to pay the proxy ban fee right now. If this was the case when he checked then there could be additional information that has not yet been looked at.

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June 01, 2015, 02:23:50 PM
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I framed him.
Was this really you that was behind this?

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June 03, 2015, 03:36:27 AM
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I already checked out question2, didn't find anything conclusive. Using Tor, and not enough data to use other methods.
Is there any chance of getting the TXID that he used to pay the units of evil fee?

Can't access specific txid's right now (related to the proxy unban fee also not currently working). 

https://blockchain.info/tx/e06fefd577ddc0005223d300e59f6f083252d043b0e200500ed84cddb0b9d714

1Kz25jm6pjNTaz8bFezEYUeBYfEtpjuKRG | PGP: B5797C4F

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June 03, 2015, 05:46:26 AM
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BadBear, could you please check your PMs?
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June 03, 2015, 08:51:31 AM
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This is a interesting thread, seems a murder mystery....every day new episode...but i think ndnhc is a legit user, still i am watching this thread everyday. I hope ndnhc everything goes well for you.

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June 03, 2015, 09:22:57 AM
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This is a interesting thread, seems a murder mystery....every day new episode...but i think ndnhc is a legit user, still i am watching this thread everyday. I hope ndnhc everything goes well for you.

The scam accusation against ndnhc is already solved so thats that, the OP is obviously someone that doesnt like quickseller and is trying to say shit about him, will we see another thread accusing OP of tryig to frame quickseller?

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June 03, 2015, 12:09:21 PM
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Well this conspiracy stories are getting ridiculous. No one will know who did it and besides anyone can have done those things. Possibly it can be a bored troll.
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June 03, 2015, 07:02:49 PM
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Wow, when did this forum start doing conspiracy theories?

Op, what made you start all this in the first place, boredom? it makes no sense to attack someone based no facts..

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June 03, 2015, 08:17:10 PM
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Wow, when did this forum start doing conspiracy theories?

Op, what made you start all this in the first place, boredom? it makes no sense to attack someone based no facts..

It seems to be fair game for Quickseller to run people's good name into the ground plenty of 'tinfoil' to go around. Fail.

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June 04, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
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Sadly it looks like this is a dead end :/

The following is based on the assumption that 1Bbi8eJbabgpAQcaYpTowtL6dG28xjygn5 belongs to theymos/bitcointalk

I believe that the input from the transaction is from 1Fr5mvdScKGt3zaS3Ws8ijvbakvohB2cjE which leads back to Localbitcoin after ~22 hops.

I believe the change address is 1CkGGk7MDqytUviQkdQV6CDjUmudwjpqD which is part of wallet 8baffa0123. Initially I thought there might be something here, however I believe that wallet to have inputs from the following wallets:
  • 604d02d2af - can be traced to LBC after 10 hops if following the largest inputs
  • 044b5af06d - can be traced to LBC after 10 hops if following the largest inputs
  • 52512044d8 - an be traced to LBC after 27 hops

As a result of the above, I believe that the input address belongs to LBC and the proxy fee was paid directly from someone's LBC account.


I still believe that twipple was still involved, however at this point this is still speculation.

He had posted an address that was associated with ndnhc here (which was deleted within ~45 minutes of creating this thread - I was able to grab a screenshot of it before it was deleted).

Also the thread that he created above (here) has a writing/posting style that is very similar to ndnhc when he was previously accused of being a scammer. It is also similar to when he denied being a scammer this time around (both were similar because other threads were directly quoted). (note: to be clear, I am not accusing ndnhc being the same person as twipple, but rather twipple trying to impersonate ndnhc).

The above is what I believe to be two instances of twipple trying to make it look like he was ndnhc. The first was too subtle and it would not make sense for that address to be posted because an address was not required for that giveaway. The second was something that I retroactively noticed while reviewing previous threads.

Twipple also started spamming the ndnhc thread that I opened with the above post several times accusing me of trying to frame ndnhc so he (twipple) would get a "permanent" negative rating.

It should be noted that the posting/writing style of twipple was different in other threads he created (1, 2).

Also once twipple received his negative rating from me, almost all of his posts were in 'quickseller' threads, and the ones that were not in 'quickseller' threads was him discussing me in someway. With that being said, twipple even went as far as 'egging on' joca97 here when he was being blackmailed.

Most of this is circumstantial evidence against him, however it is a lot of such evidence.

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June 04, 2015, 06:56:40 PM
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This thread now is really looking like a thriller movie!  Cool

I don't know what good this thread does other than needlessly confuse the situation. It looks to be purely opinionated and not actualy based on any evidence. I think it's unfair to try blame QS or Marco just as much as it is to blame ndnhc in the first place. Without more evidence I don't think its fair to blame any of them in my opinion.

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Quickseller just removed his negative trust too. Smiley

I honestly don't know who did it or who is to blame. Although I still have a list of suspects.  Grin


ndnhc's suspects  Grin

I framed him.

A self-confession of a guilty user.  Cheesy

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June 04, 2015, 08:46:46 PM
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okay, so if the rep have been removed, op just close the thread since everythings resolved?

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June 04, 2015, 10:02:58 PM
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okay, so if the rep have been removed, op just close the thread since everythings resolved?

It's not resolved because we still don't know who perpetrated this nonsense.  In my opinion, it's unlikely we will ever know, but just to be clear, the issues in the OP are not resolved.

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