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June 02, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
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It seems this needs to be said a few more times: Increasing the maximum block size will have absolutely no immediate effect on the block size.

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yep. so your 8 TB harddrive will be enough for the next 10 years i guess.

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June 02, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
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Why not wait for the outcome of this transition (if ever there will be one) first before buying a new storage? Who knows while waiting for what would really happen in this fork, you are actually saving a couple of $$$ for a new drive. Remember, prices of gadgets and storage devices tend to decrease over a period of time as new generation of devices and gadgets appear in the market. Wink

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June 02, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
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Seagate has a high fault rate. WD not.
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June 04, 2015, 06:59:46 PM
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Thanks a lot for your help folks. I steered clear of the Seagate drives.
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June 04, 2015, 07:40:13 PM
Last edit: June 04, 2015, 08:40:08 PM by Amph
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It seems this needs to be said a few more times: Increasing the maximum block size will have absolutely no immediate effect on the block size.

right, all this has made me remember the whole story about pci-3 .0 and how it was not needed at that time, until now when is still not fully saturated

we are basically in the same boat

and there are many more comparison with the general pc hardware story...
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June 04, 2015, 08:10:09 PM
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I am gearing up for the upcoming block size change. Can anyone give me their opinions of these hard drives to use as storage?
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Seems excessive.

Even if the blocksize limit were to be increased to 20MB per block (seems unlikely at the moment).
And even if the very moment the limit is increased, EVERY block were to be instantly and continuously filled to the limit with transactions.

You'd still only be looking at:
20,000,000 per block X 52,560 blocks per year = 1 TB per year.

Just a single one of those drives is likely to take more than a decade to fill with the blockchain, and larger, cheaper, faster storage is likely to be developed and marketed before then.

I'm sure there will be further massive improvements to existing alternatives soon. There are already 1TB USB3 pen drives with 450MB/s read speeds. Some of them are almost as fast as hard drives. In another year or two the prices of the top range ones should come down, and both their capacity and speed might increase further.
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June 05, 2015, 03:09:18 AM
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and in the meantime:




This works to back up your Bitcoins  Wink

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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June 05, 2015, 03:20:42 AM
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If OP is running a hot swap raid system, you should need to worry about the capacity at all. You can swap out one or two of the hard disks and automatically rebuild the raid on a larger set while the system is online. In this case, you need to buy the most reliable and cost effective hard disks.
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June 05, 2015, 03:31:52 AM
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rule number 1 of buying HD:

+ Dont touch anything Seagate +


Oh boy. Used a Seagate HDD for my new computer - kind of worried now after having looked at the stats.

As to HDDs, 5400/5900 RPM would be fine - you don't need the additional reduction in latency from a faster drive when you're basically doing archive work. As to space, I wouldn't be too concerned, the math checks out - you won't be using that 8TB anytime soon.
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June 05, 2015, 07:31:57 AM
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As said before, if the block sizes change, they won't be immediately filled up to the top, so the blockchain won't start to grow at a faster pace all of a sudden. But I do approve of new disks for nodes, it will make them future proof!

That being said, I've also had bad experiences and bad feedback from Seagate. Maxtor isn't bad, but if you can go for WD, go for it. As for Hitachi, never used their drives, so I cannot vouch for them, but I've heard they have amazing drives Smiley
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