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June 05, 2015, 01:43:13 AM
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RHavar thank you for this post, many usefull informations
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If you're asking for help, it probably would help if you tell us the report details, otherwise we're flying blind  =)
There was not many details, thats the problem, since this user wanted serious BTC for disclosure of this information. He said there are two security flaws. One severe and one very very severe.
After some talk he gave couple hints. First that this very very severe one is about quincunx predicting coin path. Second one after further talk turned out to be hard to exploit CSRF in one function. We found it right away and its already fixed.
Giving that his one bug report was true, second could be also.

Anyway, only possible way of cheating in quincunx i could think of, would be to know current server seed in non hashed way. For example trivial mistake after reworking provably fair system, one place could be showing current server seed in non hashed way that should be hashed now. Finishing checking this.

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dealing with the uncertainty if it was real or legitimate
It is hard, even more since first day design flaw which allowed user to calculate result before game. Ended without any harm, but we check everything twice now.

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It's a weekly occurrence that someone brings up a really unusual streak
Yeah statistics is like that, you can have 50% chance for either 1 or 0, and get 1 for twenty times straight. Because of that very often people conclusion is that site is rigged, seen that many times on dice sites.

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I saw earlier you had a max win of almost 50 BTC.
Max bet was 0.05 and it was lowered around ~14 hours ago to 0.01 temporary. Our provably fair system need 3rd party verification first, for safety of players and site itself.
It will be raised when we will be 100% sure of our provably fair system.
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June 05, 2015, 02:04:52 AM
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Sorry for my English . You do not even give me 0.5 BTC for responsible disclosure , and would only pay 0.1 BTC . I even gave a serious problem for free , and this is my job to eat.

Now you say you can pay 50 BTC winners per game , but you can not pay me 1 / 100th of it to help your security.

My time is too valueable to be wasted in this and has made it clear for the next person to find it more profitable to abuse your site getting insulted by your tiny bounties
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June 05, 2015, 02:13:26 AM
Last edit: June 05, 2015, 08:35:29 AM by Cruxer
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Sorry for my English . You do not even give me 0.5 BTC for responsible disclosure , and would only pay 0.1 BTC . I even gave a serious problem for free , and this is my job to eat.

Now you say you can pay 50 BTC winners per game , but you can not pay me 1 / 100th of it to help your security.

My time is too valueable to be wasted in this and has made it clear for the next person to find it more profitable to abuse your site getting insulted by your tiny bounties
Your english is fine. We don't have official bug bounty, but your messages on chat sounded dangerously close to extortion or even blackmail. Give me 1.5 BTC or someone will abuse this bug and you will loose more.
Well how you could treat someone serious after something like that.
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June 05, 2015, 02:23:13 AM
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I just want things to get paid for my work. I am the security researcher it is job not nothing. All other sites gave me money if I found a serious problem. I tell you , several times I will no been abusing it or no will to .

If you can not have 0.5 BTC, then you should say so, I can sell you cheap. But you should not pretend that you can pay 50 BTC to give winners then because it is a lie to offer a prize you will not pay
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June 05, 2015, 01:39:30 PM
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I just want things to get paid for my work. I am the security researcher it is job not nothing. All other sites gave me money if I found a serious problem. I tell you , several times I will no been abusing it or no will to .

If you can not have 0.5 BTC, then you should say so, I can sell you cheap. But you should not pretend that you can pay 50 BTC to give winners then because it is a lie to offer a prize you will not pay
Smiley Blackmail failed, we found this bug. In quincunx ajax response. There was commented out not hashed server seed.
We have it documented. Only one user exploited this.
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June 17, 2015, 09:07:02 PM
Last edit: June 17, 2015, 10:20:17 PM by Cruxer
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Rework of provably fair system is now complete
It would be nice to be verified by third party.
We also upgraded our real time chat.

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July 28, 2015, 08:11:53 AM
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Seems he is also the owner/operator of the shady ass site Bitcoinvanitygen.com that steals peoples coins
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